Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league...suck my dick — 2011 NFL Week 11 Thread

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NY Jets at Denver

Tampa Bay at Green Bay
Carolina at Detroit
Jacksonville at Cleveland
Oakland at Minnesota
Buffalo at Miami
Dallas at Washington
Cincinnati at Baltimore
Arizona at San Francisco
Seattle at St. Louis
Tennessee at Atlanta
San Diego at Chicago

Philadelphia at NY Giants

Kansas City at New England

MNF should just give up

god damn this is a horrid week of games

SNF should quit shilling for the NFC East, goddamn.

10-6 last week (calling the MNF Packers victory before it's official), 95-51 on the season

JETS
PACKERS
LIONS
JAGS
RAIDERS
BILLS
COWBOYS
BENGALS
49ERS
SEAHAWKS
FALCONS
BEARS
GIANTS
PATS

Palko in prime time, oooooh goody

NY Jets at Denver - Jets.
Tampa Bay at Green Bay - Packers.
Carolina at Detroit - Lions
Jacksonville at Cleveland - Jaguars
Oakland at Minnesota - Raiders
Buffalo at Miami - Bills
Dallas at Washington - Cowboys
Cincinnati at Baltimore - Ravens
Arizona at San Francisco - 9ers
Seattle at St. Louis - Rams
Tennessee at Atlanta - Titans
San Diego at Chicago - Bears

Philadelphia at NY Giants - Giants.

Kansas City at New England - Patritos

7-9 last wk; 90-56 season

NY Jets at Denver - jets
Tampa Bay at Green Bay - pack
Carolina at Detroit - will say panthers
Jacksonville at Cleveland - Jaguars
Oakland at Minnesota - vikings
Buffalo at Miami - dolphins
Dallas at Washington - Cowboys
Cincinnati at Baltimore - Ravens
Arizona at San Francisco - sf
Seattle at St. Louis - Rams
Tennessee at Atlanta - falcons
San Diego at Chicago - Bears

Philadelphia at NY Giants - Giants

Kansas City at New England - Patritos

SNF should quit shilling for the NFC East, goddamn.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, November 14, 2011 11:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

otm, enough already. god i hate the nfc east.

cinci/bmore and sd/chicago are the only games that are even kind of interesting.

Detroit/Carolina could be interesting especially as the Lions probably wont make the playoffs if they drop this one and seem to be uh...what's the opposite of peaking

In a nosedive?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824253ac/article/smart-like-a-fox-broncos-coach-adapts-to-tebows-strengths

"Check out 91," says Fox, pointing toward Chiefs linebacker Tamba Hali. "He's a great rusher, but look how he has to play. He can't even rush. He's just sitting there waiting. He's reading the option.

"What he does against conventional teams is rush the passer. Well, we don't have a passer. We have a runner. Not to say he can't pass at all, but we're recognizing his strengths."

lol John Gox OTM

the nfl has long been this bastion of fitting players into molds as opposed to molding a team/scheme around your players, so i think any player -- like mike vick or vince young or steve young before him -- that forces or allows nfl teams to be more creative is a good thiing for the league and for the fans and i hope tebow takes a ton of wildcat snaps next year and is successful with them

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:59 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

john fox being 'more creative' just means hes going 'oh jesus fucking christ how do i win a game with tim tebow' and comes up with a gameplan that minimizes the chance for disaster. in 06 foxy coached a panthers team that won a game where they only attempted 7 passes - out of necessity. it was not a successful season for them. the broncos are doing what every team with a shitty QB does; cordoning off huge chunks of the playbook because their guy can't run most of it with any efficacy. so really tons of teams in the league DO mold their scheme to their players, it's just that when you're gameplanning around minimizing the damage your weakest link can do, it means your team's a dumpster fire.

its really about talent, or lack of it. vince young doesnt have nfl talent, neither does tebow. all the boundless creativity in the world can't disguise that fact forever, when other teams can see it on tape

also, steve young didn't break any molds, he was slowly massaged into a system over time by some of the greatest QB coaches who ever lived. he was also a really comfortable pocket QB in his best seasons - he had some huge runs, but he mostly lived and died in the pocket. he had a wide variety of elite NFL skills

Tebow is an elite athlete. He's just not good at throwing footballs.

he doesn't have a single football talent aside from being a pretty solid (but undynamic) runner

i really cannot wait for Thursday

hi guys, i am posting here just to let you know that my picks went 4-12 last week

:-/

i think the conventional wisdom on tebow is right, he appears terrible at throwing to a spot with his receivers, but gifted at anticipating space in his runs. some kind of spatial perception issue or something.

How many good QBs are there really in the NFL at any one time? I don't know if running a spread option in the NFL will work, but at one point, the short passing west coast offense was considered 'different'. I think the whole think with Tebow and running this kind of offense has some pros and cons, but I think you would have to do the following.

1. Team is built around defense & ball control.
2. You build your roster to run this kind of offense.
3. Your backup Qbs are in that mold - so if you got Tebow, you go and get Tavaris Jackson or someone who can "RUN" the offense. You don't keep Bernie Kosar immobile types as backups.
4. You carry 3 Qbs at all times - to not just waste the draft pick you use the 3rd Qb possibly like say Brad Smith. They are going to get hurt, so you build depth at Qb - perhaps even using some oddball formations that 2 Qbs are in the game like UK would do with Randall Cobb (who was a Qb in highschool and originally recruited as one.)
5. Outside your rb, you spend your cash on your O & D-lines. Really in a way, you can build a beastly club going that way, as those cats get paid less than your flashy wideouts etc. IE you get more good players for the same cash.
6. You need to be good on special teams and it would probably be good to have a total burner returner - that you could at least use on offense to spread the field a bit.

Would it work? Eh, I don't know. Ultimately there is only a handful of guys that can run this high powered passing game and the rest of the teams are shlubs who just can't compete. It has been shown though if you can keep the big QB off the field by controlling the clock and minimize on defense that is at least a game plan that can work.

I think the spread option is less hard on a Qb compared to the wishbone.

Eh...screw it, give it a shot. I think it could work to a degree, especially if the club has the first pieces and the Qb and maybe the WR skills guys are elusive to acquire.

5. Outside your rb, you spend your cash on your O & D-lines. Really in a way, you can build a beastly club going that way, as those cats get paid less than your flashy wideouts etc. IE you get more good players for the same cash.

finding good linemen is really hard and if they're good you have to pay them a lot.

How many good QBs are there really in the NFL at any one time?

8, maybe

11-5 Last Week, 92-54 on the year

Can I say that I'm always amazed when I read KSK or ESPN (lol?) or whatever and I see the pros picking games at sub-.500 levels over the course of the season? I mean I just do this for shits and it really seems like it's not hard to pick a winning week. It's like even the people who should know better are always rationalizing their way into something like KC beating NE because why TRAP GAME or TB should beat GB why because THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO (2) UNDEFEATED SEASONS THEREFORE GBP SHOULD LOSE AT SOME POINT.

Whatever, this sport is dumb.

NY Jets at Denver NYJ
Tampa Bay at Green Bay GB

Carolina at Detroit DET

Jacksonville at Cleveland CLE

Oakland at Minnesota OAK

Buffalo at Miami BUF

Dallas at Washington DAL

Cincinnati at Baltimore BAL

Arizona at San Francisco SF

Seattle at St. Louis FUCK SEA

Tennessee at Atlanta ATL

San Diego at Chicago CHI
Philadelphia at NY Giants NYG
Kansas City at New England NE

I had a sub-.500 week in week 9 this year, and I can't remember ever having done that before. I'm not exactly a football genius, either.

basically if you always pick the team with the better record (or the home team, if they're tied), you are basically guaranteed to beat any of the pick-making experts or analysts, and probably everyone in these threads as well

so...Favre to Houston?

this is what happens when you give a jackass like skip bayless a public forum. he thinks favre should still be qb at green bay. the best chance houston has now is to not do anything stupid, ie the opposite of this. leinart is more or less exactly what they need, a fairly reliable short term option who won't grab any headlines good or bad, ie the opposite of favre.

could see Donny McNabb maybe making an impact

i dunno - the fact that Lienart was cut from Arizona makes me really iffy on him, though I suspect a lot of it has to do with Weisenhunt not being able to develop QB's AT ALL and AZ running the same plays with Lienart that they would with Warner

they've gotta at least give him three games to see what he can produce

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/9741/is-matt-leinart-better-than-you-think

i did a good amount of head nodding through this, the wisenhunt stuff is certainly otm. but there is no mention of leinart's most important feature, which is that he notoriously has never put the effort in since leaving college. i don't think he is a sleeping giant, but he is a guy who can actually throw the ball and who will probably not throw more ints than TDs, and sometimes that's all you need.

Fuck, if they start talking seriously about Favre, I'm out. Football and I won't have anything in common anymore.

xp agreed; i'd go so far as to say that houston has the best backup qb in the league atm

quote me on that when they start tanking of course

Even with Leinart at QB, I feel like Houston can win either 3 or 4 of their last 6 games (and maybe they can do all 6 if things fall in place).

Fork apparently you have not heard about Matt Flynn

until monday night i had not!

He was anchoring LSU when they won their nat'l championship, but I guess you aren't a college ball guy?

how much longer will the pack stumble along with that clown rodgers while flynn is raring to go on the bench.

pack have to start flynn in their last 3 games to get him in the shop window for the inevitable first round pick trade.

there are an insane number of QB's right now named Matt. Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Matt Cassell, Matt Hasselbeck, Matt Moore, and now you got Matt Lienart replacing Matt Schaub, with Matt Flynn potentially waiting in the wings for next year. this has got to be unprecedented.

yeah, i don't follow college ball at all

pack have to start flynn in their last 3 games to get him in the shop window for the inevitable first round pick trade

it would be so badass if they did the thing the Colts did and benched Rodgers for the last two games to "preserve him" and finished 16-0 anyway since Flynn is that damn good. probably won't happen b/c there's a chance the Pack won't even get the #1 seed, as the 49ers have 5 of their 7 remaining games vs. the NFC West and will finish with no less than 13 wins

Wait, can a team actually go undefeated and not get the #1 seed?

i mean they're not going to start Flynn b/c they're probably not going to lock up the #1 seed until the final 2 weeks

o i c

49ers could easily lose any of @Baltimore, vs. Pittsburgh, vs. New Orleans, vs. Oakland, and maybe even vs. Matt Leinart's Texans! They're good but they have games they can lose.

I think you're looking at their preseason schedule. it's Baltimore and Pittsburgh plus five games vs. the NFC West

Ah, yup. haha

Baltimore and Pittsburgh still though.

yeah but they should be able to win one of those and won't lose more than one of the NFC West games. I know some people are thinking they're going to be like the Bills and will hit a big regression but they really have played very well at nearly every position

flynn was a game manager at lsu

Last week 8-8, season record 91-55

NY Jets at Denver- Jets are just not the same team on defense this year, but they are playing against pretty much a single wing offense. I'll take the Jets, but I kind of hope Denver wins.
Tampa Bay at Green Bay- Packers but the last time Tampa got their clock cleaned they somehow came back the next week and knocked off the Saints. I don't think the Pack is the Saints though.
Carolina at Detroit- I'd say the Lions lick their wounds curse at the world and bounce back at home with a win.
Jacksonville at Cleveland- Boyo I am glad this one is not on TV around here. I guess Browns (even though I have picked them wrong a couple times already this year).
Oakland at Minnesota- Oaktown should win, but I would not doubt they would play stupid with the penalties and turnovers and make it a game.
Buffalo at Miami- I'm feeling Dolphins, they seem 'improved'. Their d isn't that bad.
Dallas at Washington- Boy no one really likes getting a job in DC, it pays good, but it always turns to crap. Dallas should win easy, but saying that is like counting on your drunken college buddy to do the right thing.
Cincinnati at Baltimore- I'm going Bengals as I just can't get over the fact that B-more beats the Steelers twice and then loses to Jacksonville and Seattle. Ravens can play just as dumb as the Raiders and Cowboys.
Arizona at San Francisco- 49ers should smack the Cards around.
Seattle at St. Louis- Eh who knows...I guess Seattle in that their club kinda sucks and their fans are still into it. I kinda like Tavaris Jackson from the little bit I have seen him play. He's not great at all, but the guy to me seems to be a player that really tries to maximize what he's got. The guy throws some dumb picks though.
Tennessee at Atlanta- These two clubs are pretty much Dr. Jeckle/Mr. Hyde this year. They have both won a couple of good games and lost a couple where you just can't figure. I guess Falcons at home?!? Sure.
San Diego at Chicago- I'm going Bears, but I am a total homer. Knowing my luck, this will probably be the week that Rivers and Co. figure it out. They seem to kick in once everybody starts talking about firing someone.
Philadelphia at NY Giants- Giants are pretty good, the Eagles are not. I'll take NY, but this is a rivalry game, so weird things 'can' happen. I'd kind of liked to sat down and watched that whole NYG/49ers game. It was pretty good game from what I saw.
Kansas City at New England- NE should beat them handily.

On the impending return of Matt Leinert, I think it will be interesting either way. Not everyone gets a second chance getting the wheels of a playoff bound club. Jim Plunkett was a total first round bust that came out of the scrap heap to win two Superbowls in this situation.

It seems like Leinert pretty much believed his hype and stardom from USC would translate into the NFL and the way it was played out, he didn't work at it. Getting dumped by your head coach like what happened in Arizona was pretty ugly. It will be an interesting story to see if he can get the job done.

High side in this situation would be Plunkett. Tommy Maddox totally came out of nowhere to have a nice small run with the Steelers and that guy was out of football.

the fact that he's "only" replacing Schaub on a run-first team is definitely good for him

Coughlin, who said he would speak with Cruz "as a parent would speak to their son," said he was baffled as to why anyone would be in a club as late as Cruz and his party -- who were said to be partying until the wee hours of Tuesday morning -- were. "I don't know what good happens at 2:30 or three in the morning," Coughlin said. "I've never been able to figure that one out." "Well, there's dollar pizza," Cruz said when given Coughlin's question.

cut to: coughlin in the club w/ cruz and crew and a slice

NY Jets at Denver

Tampa Bay at Green Bay trap game!
Carolina at Detroit
Jacksonville at Cleveland
Oakland at Minnesota
Buffalo at Miami
Dallas at Washington
Cincinnati at Baltimore
Arizona at San Francisco
Seattle at St. Louis
Tennessee at Atlanta
San Diego at Chicago

Philadelphia at NY Giants

Kansas City at New England

coughlin and cruz sitcom pls. they're the original odd couple!

<3<3<3 cruz <3<3<3

New England spread is up to 15.5 points. Experts are predicting a bloodbath.

you can just never tell. NE will stop the run first and tho i haven't seen much of battle i don't think there is all that much to stop. it all swings on palko because they will need him to make throws. maybe he is great and they win. probably he is average but if he has a cool head there's no reason why it shouldn't be at least close. if he starts losing it and throws multiple picks it will be gory. BB and TB have both made mention of how good the KC defense is at forcing turnovers, so maybe it'll be a super conservative approach from NE.

this is tough because i don't think anyone knows the first thing about palko

yeah my first reaction was "are you sure you don't mean Tyler Thigpen?" who IMO had an even funnier name

NE always gets those spreads vs. bad teams since obviously they don't mind running up the score

can we call palko "panko"? thx

are you convolutedly calling him a crumb-bum

yes. also, I enjoy "planko" quite a bit.

What about Plinko?

ooooo Plinko would work will if they're gonna let him air it out

polka!

can goodell mandate that he changes his first name to plaxico?

Plinko! lolol

plunkthrow

placco!

guys it's apparently going to be really windy for tonight's game, how exciting is that

it's gonna be such a shitshow i could not be happier

vegas line on total completions for Tebow is 11.5
if it's windy I definitely want to go under
pretty excited for this

i will admit to a great deal of schadenfreude over the direction i expect this game to go. Haven't seen tebow play a full game yet.

Some Denver Broncos fans are customizing their #15 jerseys with the name "Jesus" on the back. The jersey, currently worn by Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow(notes), has caused quite a stir. Maybe it is fitting? Tebow is often crucified for no good reason. What has he done to deserve this?

To my knowledge, Tebow has never killed dogs, wielded unlicensed handguns or cursed at a fan. All he has done is tried his best to play a position that poses great challenges for him. Tebow has a very strong work ethic. He knows he has work to do so he works hard. And people criticize him?

It is no secret that Tebow is a devout Christian. He draws strength from his strong faith and sometimes expresses it on the football field. This expression has been coined "Tebowing" and people mock him for it. [video: Tebowing For Dummies]

You might thing his fellow athletes might empathize with him. But his own peers ridicule him, right in front of his face. Even Broncos Head Coach John Fox said Tebow would be "screwed" in a traditional offense. What happened to coaches giving words of encouragement?

Despite the criticisms, despite his publicized lack of quarterbacking skills, Tebow is winning. He is 3-1 as a starter. Some of his games have been nothing short of, dare I say, miraculous. In Week 7, the Broncos trailed the Miami Dolphins 15-0 with 5:23 left in the game. That is when Tebow somehow orchestrated a stunning comeback win. In Week 10, Tebow completed just two passes in a win over the Kansas City Chiefs. Two passes? How is that possible?

Like him or not, Tebow has been one of the most exciting stories in the National Football League this season. He continues to be bullied and beaten down by all the critics. Yet he remains undaunted. I admire his perseverance. Tebow does not deserve the criticism he receives. He has done no wrong. I will continue to watch and support Tebow. I hope one day this nice guy finishes first. Then maybe, just maybe, we can praise him instead.

wake me up when the broncos beat a team thats good

the raiders are pretty good

granted the broncos caught them at a good time but still

guys, john elway's voice is blowing my mind

he sounds like an 80 year old ex-professional wrestler

omg the raiders almost got elway?

I feel like this game is ILNFL christmas morning.

yeah a national tebow/jets game is really good therapy for a shitty week

i heard that

holy shit the broncos signed a guy named jeremiah johnson!

http://neaststyle.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/mv5bmtq2mjg4nzc4n15bml5banbnxkftztcwoti4nzu3mq-_v1-_sx420_sy299_.jpg

basically if there's one tackle for loss , the broncos have to punt.

why don't you qb sneak there?

mike mayock is such a traet

xp no idea matt

whoa that was a major league shank

whoa is that a record setting punt there?

that was like me punting when i was a kid

ALRIGHT Y'ALL I'M TURNING THIS ON

that could cost them the game

the punt, not jordan watching

that throw was fucking horrible

wtf is this complete pass!

lol mark sanchez has been a starting qb in the nfl for 2.5 years and he would really like it if he just didn't have to stand in the pocket and read the defense

that quick screen is a huge play in the college game

tebow had as many compilations in the 1st drive as he did all last week: 3!

tebow compilations

shovel pass was p. cheap tbf

what number is von miller

shovel pass was p. cheap tbf

― call all destroyer, Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:55 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its cool turns out he only had 2 last week

xp 53 i think? or 58.

oh man jets better pray greene can come back.

FLYING DAWKINS

still flyin'

interesting that the "ground and pound" (god do i hate that phrase) jets carry fewer tailbacks than the finesse-based new england patriots

i've never seen an nfl team run more quick slants than the jets

deep fades and quick slants are universally known as the easiest passes in football to throw and they're seriously like 60% of the jets passing offense

too bad their qb isn't good at throwing them

watching a feed from sky sports and during the break now is two britishes guys talking about the colts being horrible "you go from curtis painter to dan orlovsky" and then shaking their heads and wondering if they should draft luck

lol, jets

cool, nick folk ALMOST hit the net

feels weird to be rooting for denver

willis mcgahee you suck so bad

good riddance even though you left buffalo like fifty years ago

aw fuck you bart scott, spoiling everything

RealRClark25 ryan clark
Way to show improvement Tebow! Already more completions than last week! All you can ask for is progress

lol i heard that fumble from the other room and started thinking "i bet horseshoe really fucking hates willis mcgahee"

hahaha

<3

xp

lol that was a fucking awful pass

oh n/m

he still threw it right at von miller's head

great check down mark

you always wanna blow a time out before a 22 yard field goal attempt

jets sure look like they played 4 days ago

i was thinking! why not just take the delay of game.

cool for mark brunell that he could get off work and be at a weeknight game

it's a shame that everyone who sent photos to nfl network of themselves tebowing died tragically the next day

how did he not take that to the house

pouha 7-rated?

is alex flannagan awake

this is really like watching my 08 fever dream of the dolphins running a 100% wildcat offense

is the broncos defense good?

yes

von miller will be defensive rookie of the year

huh i thought the broncos were the one team left on the bills' schedule we might beat but i guess not

great awareness on that play by tebow

god what an awful pass

mcgoodnight

broncos really like jumping offsides

LOLJETS

woops

lololololol

the season of the snap

HAHAHAHA

"that could have been...even a worse disaster"

that snap was so bad that sanchez did the thing that qbs do when it's a direct snap to the rb

oh well no wonder

these qbs on pace for 300 yards passing COMBINED

joe mcknight may not know any plays other than "catch the punt/kickoff"

lol jho

i am on pace for falling asleep at halftime

i think i'm going to make some pasta at halftime so i can just keep farting all the way thru the second half

mayock is def the closest thing to collinsworth

xp i'm going to make a drink so i keep being kinda drunk all the way through the second half

GREAT PLAY

I mean
come onnnnnnnnnnnnn

"worked for dan marino; didn't work for mark sanchez"

sanchez wants to throw the bomb

mayock is way better than collinsworth!

mayock still sounds too happy calling games

collinsworth's voice is really grating

collinsworth has gone into smh mode at times this year

which should generally be the default mode for anyone not named jon gruden

they should toss a coin and go straight into overtime

collinsworth has gone into smh mode at times this year

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:52 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he's had to given some of the awful games they've gotten!

lol spiralls

has to be college style overtime otherwise the game might never end

plax has been so much better than thought he could possibly be this year

mike mayock so exasperated with sanchez

wow

UGH WTF

"bilal powell" looks awful

this game WOULD have two fgs, two missed fg, and an offensive lineman recovering a fumble for a td

yo wassup d00ds

man tebow's bootlegs are just horrific

Decker is so awesome

hi s unmbers would be totally bananas if he was in a real offense

whoa that's a fun misspelling

awesome punt

awesome punt

― Bee OK, Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:28 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

can we put this on the 2011 jets' headstone?

heard some boos there

smartfootball Smart Football
What will test the Tebow experiment in DEN is patience/knowledge of coaches. One thing to install zone read, another to deal w/ D counters

wtf pass was that!

yay!

:D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!

i truly love mark sanchez and hope the jets never give up on him

This is like the only way they could lose.

wow suckass job by both sanchez and plax

okay so is this officially the week where all jets fans turn on the sanchize?

I read a jets forum last week and everyone was still drinking the kool-aid

yeah i mean in their position i'd be demanding the death of both him and b-schotty who has just royally fucked up their offense

amazing

oh and you know who sucks? joe mcknight sucks.

XD

would watch the jets implode all day every day

are the Jets really going to lose this game?

unbelievable

pretty delighted that this is probably the only time this season i will be hoping tebow can pull something off on 3rd and long. gl denver fans

wait how did denver actually get a touchdown?!

literally the broncos entire offense is predicated on keeping tebow out of third and long

daria, they pick sixed sanchez

whoa von miller murdered sanchez

i'm really glad joe mcknight is in at rb -- every sunday i'm always like "god, if only i could watch a worse version of reggie bush"

lol

i can't believe that tomlinson isn't playing because of julian fucking edelman

the broncos are really having trouble calling hike

fuck you denver just beat these dudes already

i know right? edelman playing on defense in garbage time takes out lt, what the hell

this is grody

feel like i'm watching one of the games that happened 55 minutes into "little giants"

ew he throws so gdamn ugly

yeah that throw was something

i know right? edelman playing on defense in garbage time takes out lt, what the hell

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:52 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's probably the best thing a patriot has done in 5 years

remember when peyty died i miss him

better than wilfork island?

"one thing you have to love about brunell is the unsolicited investment advice"

idk a mediocre receiver/special teams player who is playing nickel corner in garbage time for no reason and then takes out one of my least favorite nfl players deserves a medal or at least leniency on his sexual assault charges.

do you know who i miss on ilnfl, C-L. i hope he is enjoying arodg being god this season.

lol sanchize with the fear-based incompletion

xpost - he is one of my least favorite players as well. something about complaining about other teams not being sufficiently classy unlike the chargers w/shawn merriman

xp yeah where is that guy

i miss chicago kevin. what happened to that guy

c-l's a med student iirc so hes prob mad busy

all you pats fans hate lt but your qb is a serial killer on the low

xp yeah i was going to say c-l is prob busy saving lives

xpost - he is one of my least favorite players as well. something about complaining about other teams not being sufficiently classy unlike the chargers w/shawn merriman

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, November 18, 2011 4:04 AM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark

also stealing the nickname of a legendary and superior player.

these poor fans in this stadium

great 3 and out here, gotta make sure you give sanchez time for the pick 6

lol j. edgar

YOUR A SCARED LITTLE MAN!!!! >:0

man I'm glad I haven't had a woman say that to me

I hate most clint movies but I'm kind of down with this one

everything about it is hilarious in a bad way

nearly sanchez...cmon son

i hate the 5y line fair catch

how the hell do you whiff on that tackle

god if tebow leads a 96 yd td drive here i could die happy

otm and what a strange feeling

cmon lil jesus, raise your offense from the dead

sad trombone

hahaha stfu cromartie, god what an idiot

football is such a dum sport

OLD SCHOOL TEBOWBALL

you're a dum sport!

xp lol run tebow run

this is so hilarious, how is this an nfl game

go tebow

if you can't take immense glee from the possibility of tim tebow driving 95 yds for a game winning td on rex ryan the world can literally offer you nothing

i guess tebow never throws picks cos he always throws at his receivers' knees

first down broncos!
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I smell OT

tebow is uh not all that aware of the clock is he

srsly this sport is so easy tho

u literally just b big & not let ppl tackle u

this is unreal

"knucklehead on the field, we'll have to get him out of here"

wait what's happening

i want to see the knucklehead

LOL @ BUTTHURT MAYOCK

i thought they were talking about tebow

thinking about it, i think some random fan ran onto the field? at first i assumed they were complaining about a guy on the jets

lol did Nessler just say the fan on the field was Tebowing?

THIS IS THE GREATEST GAME IN FOOTBALL HISTORY

YES

EWFNLKDNADGNAGDJNAGA

TEBOW TIME!!!!!!!!!!

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i think i speak for tebow when i say jesus christ almighty

WHERE IS THAT GIF OF THE PRANCING DOG

holy shit

OMG TEBOW TD

GET THAT KNUCKLEHEAD IN THE ENDZONE

there was a sort of destined inevitability to that td run...

whoah tebow just tebowed

he just wins!!!

IF REX RYAN CANT GAMEPLAN TO STOP THIS GUY, WHO CAN? NOBODY!!!!!

oh, seeing that cunt pray makes me disgusted with myself for being so happy

like really, you blizted everyone up the middle and left tebow w/ 15 yards of lateral space to run at?

what happened, did tebow catch the golden snitch

broncos are so doomed

lol you guys

mark sanchez

like really, you blizted everyone up the middle and left tebow w/ 15 yards of lateral space to run at?

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:31 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah this was.....not smart

denver green bay super bowl
denver green bay super bowl
denver green bay super bowl

lol rex

HAHAHAAHAH CROMARTIE

YOU GUYS

the jets literally have the best kick returner in the nfl and they have cromartie run it out from 9 yds deep

I LOVE IT

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wow von miller is really something

Von Miller just straight pancaked his ass.

jets just barely touched the hem of his garment on that TD run

lol

but also come on, can we intercept sanchez or something, guys

go jets beat the tebows

mcknight you idiot

hahahaha moron

u ppl have rooted for the rivers & the tebows recently fwiw

that was fun!

TEBOW IS JESUS

so awesome

all we learned tonight is that both of these teams suck

lol at Jets

u ppl have rooted for the rivers & the tebows recently fwiw

― mon/ seeya/ chi 2.0 (k3vin k.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:38 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

k3v, everyone here hates the jets. it's really satisfying. you should look into it.

tebow is misty-eyed

in his heart elway has to hate seeing this third down back winning games in his qb spot

"Oh shit hold up guys, gotta get in the prayer circle"

that was insane

oh come on the fucking prayer circle

is kevin a closet half jets fan?

everyone here hates the jets. it's really satisfying

I like this for Week 12 title, actually.

btw the jets prob had a pretty good case for PI on plexi on that final play

kev is butthurt about something, it's weird

seventeen points on the best defense in the league...suck my dick

i think he just doesn't approve of tebow but come on this game was hilarious and fuck the jets

is kevin a closet half jets fan?

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:40 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm starting to suspect this!

ilx hating the jets so much has made me sorta like the jets, in theory

just not any of their players or their coach

whatevs you have to like the packers they are such an iatee team

von miller is the black forrest gump. i love him.

oh yeah the packers are my #1 remember where arod went to college

kevin has been sympathetic towards the jets all year

honestly feel like he should be sent to guantanamo and held indefinitely without trial? you can never be too safe.

Jebus finally showed huh. Denver is fucked once that shit gets shut down.
Also can I just:

Loooooooooool @ Jets

kevin has been sympathetic towards the jets all year

honestly feel like he should be sent to guantanamo and held indefinitely without trial? you can never be too safe.

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:45 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yah it only takes one to start it

besides football being a dumb easy sport idk like i've watched like 2 jets games over the past year i can remember - def not a jets fan - but idg why the jets are so bad, mark sanchez is kinda lol but there are like 5 ppl in the world who are legit 'good football players' no so why hate him idgi

C'Mon Man!
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i don't hate the sanchize! i just lol @ him forever

wth with this "dumb easy sport" business

lol what is this elitism about "the difficulty of football" about

he's the least hateworthy USC qb IMO

i don't hate sanchez either! he's good for several hilarious fuckups per game and i find him pretty likable. like i said, i hope the jets never give up on him.

kevin has been sympathetic towards the jets all year

honestly feel like he should be sent to guantanamo and held indefinitely without trial? you can never be too safe.

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:45 PM (6 minutes ago)

i have not!! lol i swear to god, i mean i am from NY & i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them, i think their coach is funny

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i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them
i know plenty of jets fans believe me, i just dont get the hate for them

jets fans are monsters

giants fans worse than jets fans is my personal exp

Sanchize is part of the Romosphere of guaranteed lols. No hate, only love for his lolworthiness.

2012 Jets Starting Quarterback Peyton Manning

omg bite your tongue

i don't hate mark sanchez as a person, but i hate how mark sanchez has been talked about & thought of

omg matt armstrong you devil!

sb Matt Armstrong

haha i thought i had an existential crisis this season when peyty got hurt. if he played for the jets...i don't even know

giants fans worse than jets fans is my personal exp

― iatee, Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:54 PM (1 minute ago)

^^^^^^^^

feel like some ppl itt have grown up in the south or something...

Sanchize is part of the Romosphere of guaranteed lols

^^^^

jets/cowboys talk so much trash and find the most ridiculous ways to lose games esp the big ones

i know plenty of people who run over baby ducks as they waddle across the street, i just dont get the hate for them

jets fans are like chubby construction workers from queens, there is a certain charm to them. giants fans are more arrogant fratty types.

daria otm

there literally is not a human being worse than someone who roots for the jets

i love the clarity j0rdan brings to these discussions

you know who else is gross, joe namath

everything about the jets is gross

i don't hate mark sanchez as a person, but i hate how mark sanchez has been talked about & thought of

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:55 PM (1 minute ago)

as a decent QB? idk i mean, like i said there are like 2 ppl in the entire world who are very good at being a QB, he's def 3rd tier which isnt so bad

fuck man, why and how did they give him so much open field to run in what the FUCK
that guy is such a non qb it's frustrating to watch him play
not that sanchize is any better

again as someone who knows probably 100x as many jets fans as some ppl itt what is so bad abt them? they always suck! this is something you can bring up without fail in an argument!

BAHAHA interview answer. he's like his very own speak n' spell!

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kev, mark sanchez has been afforded the status and celebrity of an elite quarterback because he plays for the New York Jets when in reality he's probably not even a top 20 starting QB.

am i literally sitting here arguing with someone from new york about why new york sports fans are bad? this is some hall of mirrors shit

srsly this is some shit; i don't think tebow's heard a single interview question so far

let's move on to more pressing issues

i recently discovered some troubling news -- i ask that you all keep me in your prayers

Edwin M. Anzalone (born September 19, 1959),[1] better known as Fireman Ed, is an enthusiastic fan of the New York Jets since 1986, although he was a fan of the Miami Dolphins until the age of 10.[2][3]

haha

tim tebow: the drake of the nfl

I kind of feel bad for tebow when he gives interviews like this... his inner life must be just a constant stream of compulsions and rigidity.

he's a turncoat! let that focus your hatred all the more!

xxp

i just wanted to say that btw

dustin keller spent like 90% of this game looking pissed as hell with good reason

"because it's never going to be good..."*trails off, looks confused*

because mark sanchez can't throw two good passes in a row?

iatee so otm itt

my "football is dumb" elitism is partly true & partly me just being butthurt about my team losing in the intramural playoffs last night

kev, mark sanchez has been afforded the status and celebrity of an elite quarterback because he plays for the New York Jets when in reality he's probably not even a top 20 starting QB.
--Matt Armstrong

good-looking dude who plays for team in biggest media market in country occasionally on tv, crazy

iatee get out of here

love the confused look when they gave him the "good answer"

he's so interested in what those interview questions are guys

he seems so confused right now just a lost lil lamb

sort of feel like the mean reporters should stop lobbing these words at him

srsly as a sport it's dumb tho, anyone can play it, this goofball tebow has beaten like 3 teams in a row & he doesn't even play the right way

tebow is buiding a hospital in the phillipines

probs no aborts there tho

quarterback is easily the hardest single position in sports and i don't think that's even debatable

yeah def

whenever pro ball players seem all deer in the headlights during interviews like this i think of kevin costner coaching tim robbins on how to answer interview questions in bull durham

"'Course it's boring, that's the point. Write it down."

god if tebow leads a 96 yd td drive here i could die happy

― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^

having now heard him speak i understand that tebow is a "special" player

tebow was home schooled

i mean don't get me wrong football is awesome when the eagles are good

have you guys seen the website for tebow's dad's church cuz whoa

2012 Jets Starting Quarterback Peyton Manning

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lmao this boards reaction to this news irl would be something id v much like to witness

man, when tebow finally runs out of luck this is gonna be like watching a puppy getting stomped to death

btw, if peyty goes to the jets i will snoopy dance

guys

how funny is it that brett favre played for the jets

do u guys remember when i willed randy moss to the patriots, im gonna do that again, someone remind me to do a totemic photoshop tomorrow

2012 Jets Starting Quarterback Peyton Manning

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lmao this boards reaction to this news irl would be something id v much like to witness

― ice cr?m, Friday, November 18, 2011 12:14 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

what did i ever do to you jho

OMG NO

DON'T U DARE

they're having a really weird tebow love-in on nfln right now

yeah it's like they were all struck by the hand of god or something

sry horseshoe, this is something that NEEDS to happen, its important

tebow is kind of adorable

the jets ditching sanchize for a crippled peyton manning would be so hilarious and absurd

hard to see the jets passing the ravens and the bengals huh?

tebow could be adorable but he mostly looks like a penis

it's so funny that andy dalton is already better than mark sanchez

really, marshall faulk? you've never seen sanchez play like that?

tebow seems like he should be an air force cadet

faulk not watching a lot of football these days

seriously

tebow would be actually adorable if he weren't secretly just a walking anti-abortion ad

yeah basically

like if it weren't for that I would be rooting for the dude 100% instead of 0%

^ha me too

i'm actually finding myself rooting for him recently which i feel bad about but then again i like how he's exposing how ridic NFL & what ppl think abt it are

more of a fluke imho

if tebow was just some dude without the evangelical following the story would be "awesome defense carries terrible offense and qb"

yup

"This delhomme guy is just a winner"

"it's dilfer time"

^board descrip

obv a good portion of the media is blinded by TEBOW, WHAT A WINNER but he also makes some plays w/ his feet

yeah there's def. a sexiness to a scrambling qb

I'm kind of buying the Tim Tebow a bit. Its a big if, but even if the guy can get 3-5 more completions a game and keep the running going, it's something, which is more than what they had. The guy is built like Rofflesburger. He'll get hit but just get up. I think Tebow might actually be a guy built to be a running Qb.

I also just like it, as it is something different. I dug the wildcat too and am kind of sad it faded pretty quick. I also kind of dig how the Raiders and Chargers pretty much live by chucking it half way down the field all the time (even though it isn't quite as successful). I'm just bored with the whole dink and dunk passing game. That crap has gotten so BORING. I'd rather watch clubs run the freaking ball instead of playing touch football which is what half of that dink and dunk passing game is and the other half looking for a bunch of weird phantom fouls that might or might not be called depending on the angle the ref has non the play.

I could buy the Bronco's 8-8 at this point, which is probably Elway/Fox's worst nightmare. Tebow does just good enough they have to go into next season continuing the experiment. It was a changing time in the NFL, but Broncos won plenty of ugly games with Elway. The guy is a legend now, but the guy wasn't statistically like Montana or Marino.

The guy is built like Rofflesburger

oh forgot, you guys root for this guy too

everybody hates rapistberger stop trolling

as a raiders fan the "success" of Tebow does make me more intrigued by Terrelle Pryor since I generally think Tebow is a poor man's Pryor.

The dink and dunk is fun to watch when it is Peyty, Brady or say Brees running it, especially with Manning and no-huddle, as when it is cooking - it's similar to a killer run game, as it is enforcing your will on the opponent. And with those guys you keep waiting for the big strike.
But I freaking hate watching clubs like the Jets or Flacco, try to run permutations on it where they complete 3 of 5 passes in a sequence for like 9 yards. It's like the passing version of a Frank Kush offense - as exciting as sawdust.

throwing a pick 6 on a dink takes a lot of the luster off.

Eh, I don't root for the Steelers really anytime. Steelers/Pats or Steelers/Ravens - I pretty much just hope that Kthulu chooses their stadium to open up the vortex when they are playing.

Tebow is kind of built like Conan for a Qb. McNair was also built that way too.

mcnair was kind of chunky

"country strong"

tebow is more like p90x

McNair kind of bulked up as his career went on. He wasn't quite as stout early on in Houston.

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The dude was one hard Qb to bring down. He was fun to watch play.

wow he looks almost lanky there

miss the oilers logo :(

;_; McNair

"We have playmakers, we have coaching, we have the leadership, we have the ability to play better than this. We just haven't ... I mean, I haven't. It starts with me. " -- Mark Sanchez

i heart mcnair, i knew mcnair and you, mr. tebow...

man if the Panthers didn't have the worst defense in the league they may be able to run something like this very well

it sucks that Tebow is probably gonna come crashing down to earth hard but A) The AFC West looks awful all around so who knows and B) watching Tebow pull games out of his ass in the final 5 minutes is such endless entertainment, I cannot get enough of it

Half his games at UF were the exact same way. (The other half were them crushing their opponents by five or more scores.)

if course the prerequisite for tebow 'pulling games out of his ass' is that the other team not score more than like two touchdowns

don't forget the Sanchize pick-6 which I still don't understand. I mean if you're Sanchez - midway 3rd quarter, up by 7 vs. a team that really cannot score at all on offense, you have to be thinking that one score will ice the game, that your defense will probably win it on its own and that the Broncos will struggle so hard to put together TWO scoring drives, that you'll get so many more chances unless you do something astoundingly dumb. I mean the throw itself was very stupid but the situation where you can pretty much ONLY lose by throwing a pick-6 makes it dumb squared.

having not seen him play a game yet, i was kinda shocked by just how bad tebow's arm is. dude missed at least four open throws.
having seen sanchize play basically, oh, all his pro games, i was not shocked by how inaccurate he is past ten yards.

It's almost becoming a Shaq/free throw situation, where it's like, "come on, even I could hit that guy". Even his completions looked bad.

the jets were really, really dependent on their running game -- i think it's paramount this offseason that they find someone to replace LT

and also make sure that shonn greene is good

mcknight looked okay to me except for that fumble. Could've just as easily have torn off a td run on any of three runs

also he provided major value on my fantasy team during the saints off week so i am feeling grateful

mcknight is prob a good third running back but you don't want him getting more than like 5 carries a game

well _I_ do

"Let me tell you something: My man is really good in this offense. You know what I mean? If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed." -- Broncos head coach John Fox, on the Tim Tebow offense

Only the faintest of praise will do

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Eli is SUCH a snob

lol that's amazing

wtf kind of question is that

19% to convicted elitist vick

wtf is happening to Marino's face

marino's turning into a monkey, boomer into a giant banana slug

it's like the camera caught him mid-Samara attack

xp: lol

i can't believe ppl actually text in votes to nfl morning shows

maybe ppl got confused and thought they meant "elite"

“I like winning, but I wish it wasn’t quite that stressful.”

or they thought it was "the ELItist", as in the most "Eli" QB

do they mean elite-est?

can manning pass the eli test?

probably yes

"i'm eli"
"okay, you pass"

do you know who i miss on ilnfl, C-L. i hope he is enjoying arodg being god this season.

I am! I miss you guys too! I was in the ER last night chattin' with people about their abdominal pains and whatnot, and then last Thursday (and this Sunday) I was away with limited access to football, which I fear may be a recurring theme. For the next like 5-6 weeks I am going to everywhere to put on a suit and talk about how I want to be a neurologist, it's gonna be kinda nuts. I still read all of these threads but I am increasingly struggling to participate. But I wanna.

But yes the important thing is THE PACKERS (they are probably still beatable, but it'd be OK if they weren't). Also Clayton Kershaw.

aw, hi! good luck with your interviews! (is that what they are? applications for residencies? internships? the whole process is mysterious to me.)

youre cool to chat w/on nfl message boards c-l but just so you know theres no way im letting you inside my brain

c-l posts on another board on which i am a mod, and in 5 seconds im gonna change his avatar to this

http://i.imgur.com/HYtO9.jpg

Neurology is a lil weird in that you have to spend your first year out of med school doing a medicine internship (or another thing called a transitional year that is sort of like a medicine intern year but alternately easier and more surgery-containing. I dunno, I only applied to like two of those). Some of the places I am going (especially those in the middle of the country) have that year attached, so like when I was at Virginia last week they had a guaranteed spot, so I'd just go to Charlottesville next year and then stay for residency after. And then most of the places where I applied out west (plus some of the ones out East, most of which I did not apply to) only offer the neurology part of the residency (which will begin in 2013 after I am done with intern year), and you are on your own to find an intern program. So I am doing both intern year interviews and residency interviews. And then, at the end of all that, I pick who I like most, and the programs all pick who they like most, and we both send our lists of BFFs to a big computer in the sky and that will tell me where I get to move to.

It sounds a little insane but then I had a Psych resident who went to med school in India talk about the residency selection process in India and THAT was basically the most insane thing I've ever heard. USA #1

Also I AM ALREADY INSIDE YOUR BRAIN MAAAAANNNNNN. I am not gonna be a neurosurgeon so I can only look with pictures, though.

xp How dare you

i have placed my head inside a lead box now

Pictures of my brain = the abyss states back at YOU, c-l

Good luck!!

*stares, goddammit

lol fudge packers shirts, back when i had vikings season tickets and the old tailgating lots hadn't been turned into condos yet around the dome, these guys were selling fudge packers shirts $20 a pop, i talked to them and they'd already sold 60 shirts and there was still probably an hour before gametime

i'd ask who the hell buys those shirts, but i guess i know pretty well those types. it seems like all of them are either "those guys are GAY" or something racist like "Pujols is the name of the guy who mows my lawn", whatever happened to the clever "We'll never forget you Brent" shirts

I think you have to remember that people want to wear shirts that say things are already a pretty horrible subset w/i the american population

so it's not that crazy that a higher % of them would be racist and homophobic

shirt i saw once at fenway 'arod has aids'

tbf everyone is entitled to an opinion

I think you have to remember that people want to wear shirts that say things are already a pretty horrible subset w/i the american population

uhhh yeeah about that

i guess i've seen some of those people, many of them live in Philly

i'd ask who the hell buys those shirts, but i guess i know pretty well those types. it seems like all of them are either "those guys are GAY" or something racist like "Pujols is the name of the guy who mows my lawn", whatever happened to the clever "We'll never forget you Brent" shirts

― frogbs, Friday, November 18, 2011 2:07 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

basically dudes that start tailgating at 7AM

arod does have aids, so it's not really the same thing

as for me,

despite myself i found myself rooting for the jets.

honestly in the current climate i can't find tebow loveable or even the admiration of him a benign thing, i guess i try to hold it in because it's kinda boring to talk abt but almost everything feels kind of political or ideological now in this country to a degree

that's a really lame thing to say probably but i don't think i've ever been more invested in another human being failing as i am with tim tebow

and maybe he's a nice kid and all but i can't help it

it's a very defensible position tbh

in a perfect world a tornado would have swept onto the field mid-game, scooping up Tebow and the entire Jets team and launching them into the ocean

what's wrong with admiring Tebow? can't you just like the guy without having to say you share the same views as he does?

not when he's made it clear that he is nothing but a walking incarnation of his views

he also plays football y'know

I mean I admire that kind of conviction in any football player, and zaniness aside he's really just trying to do what he thinks is right and moral, gives everything on the field (see: bowling over Revis rather than running OOB as most QBs would do), believes in his teammates, cares not about stats or playing time, and seems like an utterly sincere guy, fanatic or not.

ya the problem is that what he thinks is right and moral is something that leads to abortion clinic bombings

xpost

hey froggy did you read my post?

i'm not saying other ppl can't, i'm saying i can't, i think i made it pretty clear

what tim tebow "thinks is right and moral" has consequences for other people, people that i care about.

every fucking nutjob on earth is sincere

he also plays football y'know

weeeeeeeell, KINDA

I mean I admire that kind of conviction in any football player, and zaniness aside he's really just trying to do what he thinks is right and moral, gives everything on the field (see: bowling over Revis rather than running OOB as most QBs would do), believes in his teammates, cares not about stats or playing time, and seems like an utterly sincere guy, fanatic or not.

― frogbs, Friday, November 18, 2011 2:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i p much hate everthing about this post, why don't you say "he's like a kid out there" or "he's just having fun" too

guys the nfl is all abt hating people without having to justify yrself

ya the problem is that what he thinks is right and moral is something that leads to abortion clinic bombings

uhhh i think relating this to Tebow is a little insincere

guys the nfl is all abt hating people without having to justify yrself

OTM!

the correct answer to "why do you hate Tim Tebow" is always "shut up"

"because his name is 'Tim Tebow'" is also acceptable

he was in an anti-abortion ad screened during an event that like half the country watches. there is almost nothing more he could do for the abortion clinic bombing cause short of bombing abortion clinics himself, or winning the super bowl.

fortunately we don't ever have to worry about Tim Tebow winning the Superbowl unless he becomes a fitness coach for the Packers

hey froggy did you read my post?

i'm not saying other ppl can't, i'm saying i can't, i think i made it pretty clear

what tim tebow "thinks is right and moral" has consequences for other people, people that i care about.

every fucking nutjob on earth is sincere

yeah I read it, I do take exception with you saying that the admiration of him cannot be a benign thing, people can like football players without any kind of social or idealogical connection.

i would have a big problem with him becoming a senator. as a football player I like him.

how did you feel about brett favre

now THERE'S a dude who knows how to have fun

he was in an anti-abortion ad screened during an event that like half the country watches. there is almost nothing more he could do for the abortion clinic bombing cause short of bombing abortion clinics himself, or winning the super bowl.

yes because while he was filming that commercial he was totally thinking "I hope people who work in abortion clinics get brutally murdered, because of me, Tim Tebow"

practically any political/idealogical stance can be taken too far and cause harm, to accuse anyone parroting those views of the absolute worst case scenario is internet cynicism at its worst

tebow is objectively horrible at football and his name is tim tebow!

how did you feel about brett favre

that's a different question b/c he played for the team I loved, and as such I really did like him regardless of whatever, and besides you can't really compare the two, no way Favre would take a hit for his team

if I were a Bronco fan i'd probably feel different about the whole situation. you can like a player regardless of whether or not he is any good. my favorite pitcher is Bruce Chen which I can't really justify at all.

xp new borad description brb

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I mean come on, you are kind of obligated to hate things like this

frogbs i don't think you 'get' 'hating ppl'

yes because while he was filming that commercial he was totally thinking "I hope people who work in abortion clinics get brutally murdered, because of me, Tim Tebow"

it doesn't matter what he was totally thinking, I'm sure george w bush wasn't totally thinking "I want hundreds of thousands of people to die...right now." through being a high-profile participant in a movement that hurts people every day, tebow is a shitty person. that said, I think you can root for him to win in the short-term only because it's gonna give him even more opportunities to lose games in the future. in the longer-term everyone should root for him to have a spinal injury.

RIP i would choke the hell outaa chimpanzee

it had a good run

i swear every time i come back to a thread that i've bookmarked and i'm like "wait how the hell did this thread get so long all of a sudden" the challops of frogbs are prominently involved

anyway i've said before why i'm okay rooting for tebow in the nfl, also his teammates clearly like him and want to play hard for him and i'm sorry if that's not cool or w/e but i dig it

also he's so obviously terrible that you can root for him and not feel like it's going to come back and bite you in the ass

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/01/NopmWgt6wihdmlqeqOenZ7q2o1_500.jpg

I think we need a TEBOW thread, is there one already?

in a perfect world a tornado would have swept onto the field mid-game, scooping up Tebow and the entire Jets team and launching them into the ocean

― Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, November 18, 2011 3:33 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark

look, i'm never going to come out against anything that would involve the death of every jet player, but if this had happened we wouldn't have experienced the pure joy involved with tim tebow leading the broncos on a 95 game winning td drive against rex ryan's defense

will tim tebow have a good nfl career?

okay I will take my frankly amazing images over there

also J0rd that is a very valid point

it doesn't matter what he was totally thinking, I'm sure george w bush wasn't totally thinking "I want hundreds of thousands of people to die...right now." through being a high-profile participant in a movement that hurts people every day, tebow is a shitty person. that said, I think you can root for him to win in the short-term only because it's gonna give him even more opportunities to lose games in the future. in the longer-term everyone should root for him to have a spinal injury.

I don't really want to turn this into another dumb abortion debate but I disagree with basically everything in this post, especially as you're making it out as though pro-life violence is a huge ordeal in this country, it's killed what, like dozens? So nobody should advocate a position that, when taken too far, could hurt people? Especially when the ENTIRE BASIS of that position is to try and save lives? Saying you're rooting for a spinal injury is pretty much disgusting savagery and pretty much directly contradicts everything you're saying

haha I sorta defended him being kinda successful in that old thread, but that was before he actually got started tebowing

frogbs can we take this to a politics thread? I'm concerned 51 people aren't on ilnfl

listen, i posted that shit kinda sheepishly because not because it's "cool" but because i felt it was sort of lame in some respect (to j0rdan), they are my personal feelings, they are not some big guideline for how other ppl have to feel

frogbs, like um...maybe fuck you pal ok? i'm not sbing or bullshit like that but god you have this way of acting so faux naive about shit you say that's really fucking aggravating.

i cop to my own predjudices on tim tebow

plus i honestly thing he sucks at football and -- on the whole -- is actually really fucking boring to watch, 90 percent of that game was a goddamn snoozefest

I don't really want to turn this into another dumb abortion debate

and yeah, that game sucked to watch

I don't really want to turn this into another dumb abortion debate so here are some naked pictures of Thandie Newton and Jessica Biel

hate u dan but ur proving my point

my original idea was to link lemon party so you should actually be thanking me

at some point this year I will actually have the opportunity to watch a football game and be able to post on-topic, lol

listen, i posted that shit kinda sheepishly because not because it's "cool" but because i felt it was sort of lame in some respect (to j0rdan

wait, posted what

frogbs, like um...maybe fuck you pal ok? i'm not sbing or bullshit like that but god you have this way of acting so faux naive about shit you say that's really fucking aggravating.

what are you talking about? i apologize if i misunderstood your post but if you're saying that you can't like Tebow without some kind of social or political agenda, well, I think you're wrong, people like Tebow because he's really fun to root for and I think a lot of people just naturally like seeing bad QBs pull wins out of his ass

the game was like being out with a group of people during which a couple you don't like start a long, bitter argument. to begin with it was delightful seeing them embarrass themselves, but it got super awkward really quickly, and then it just seemed to keep going on and on. and then at the end, pierce brosnan cried "well maybe you shouldn't be LIVING HERE" and it was awesome again.

frogbs, obv not 100% of the ppl who like tim tebow do so because of his religion, politics or his race, but i think that's likely true for a majority of ppl -- any one of those things is pretty inextricable from the player

frogbs can we take this to a politics thread? I'm concerned 51 people aren't on ilnfl

most ilxors outside of the sports forums are utterly clueless on how you can admire someone for their accomplishments on the field without necessarily having to have an opinion on them "as a person", so no thanks

god damn clueless ilxors

ps you can't admire tebow for his accomplishments on the field, so

frogbs, obv not 100% of the ppl who like tim tebow do so because of his religion, politics or his race, but i think that's likely true for a majority of ppl -- any one of those things is pretty inextricable from the player

typically i don't associate much with that type, most of the people I know or have heard root for Tebow do so b/c they (essentially) think the NFL is way more entertaining if he succeeds, which is how I see it too

well that's honest enough, but I would find the nfl way more entertaining if he has a spinal injury, so you'll have to accept my reasoning too

ps you can't admire tebow for his accomplishments on the field, so

winning 4 out of 5 starts despite playing being a nearly historically bad quarterback on a team that's pretty terrible otherwise is pretty impressive!

denver's defense is not terrible

tim has shown me that if i want it badly enough and i hold true to christian values, i can achieve anything despite the obstacle of my personal incompetence. it's like the american dream gave birth to a son on earth.

xp they've allowed more points than any team but Indy

yes does that stat have any relevance to the games where tebow won

fair enough; let me amend that to:
denver's defense was not terrible last night

15, 24, 10, 13

well that's honest enough, but I would find the nfl way more entertaining if he has a spinal injury, so you'll have to accept my reasoning too

if you phrase it like that instead of "i want him to get hurt because he's actively pro-life" then its less objectionable

the most i've ever really wanted a football player to fail was Favre in 2009 and 2010, it's way way more fun seeing him fail because of his own bad decision making (like in 2009) than it is to see him actually sustain a brutal injury

what the fucking christ is going on here

anyway m@tt's original post is otm in that tebow's on-field success would be harmful to other ppl and we shouldn't lose sight of that

what the fucking christ is going on here

― call all destroyer, Friday, November 18, 2011 4:38 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

we need to get one of ilx's musicians to write a two second jingle that has a small group of children sing "thaaaaaaaaaaaat's frogbs!"

thats our frogbs *shrugs affectionately*

i just wanted to post itt to say that i fucking hate tim tebow. also last night i went to mcdonalds at like three am and the group of four too-wasted-to-stand frat bros in front of me were crowing abt how awesome tim tebow was while in the middle of drunk texting/crudely drunk texting girls they wanted to fuck and i gave up on getting my jr chix and walked home

tim tebow: bad for the economy

oh that should read: crudely discussing drunk texting

Te-Bow the Letter

How do u guys pronounce frogbs, I know it doesn't really make sense but I say 'frogs buh'

It's like favre I guess

i say it as two words: frog's BS.

boof foofer

"ps you can't admire tebow for his accomplishments on the field, so"

Maybe not for his stats in the NFL, but it's hard to deny what he did in college.

Weird thing is that his Qb rating in some of these games is not as bad as the completion percentage, mostly as when Tebow connects on a pass it often goes for huge yards. And that doesn't take in account the running yards.

I don't have any skin in the game on all of the off the field persona stuff with Tebow, but it does make watching a crappy Broncos/Jets game kind of fun. I think it might even make a crappy Broncos/Chargers game interesting. I think SD losing to Broncos and Tebow might bring the axe on Norv (possibly).

Weird thing is that his Qb rating in some of these games is not as bad as the completion percentage, mostly as when Tebow connects on a pass it often goes for huge yards.

that seems like it'd be inevitable w/ a defense that doesn't have to expect more than 2 completed passes a game

Wish the Chargers would fire AJ Smith instead of Norv.

Tebow is like the amusing nerd in school who prayed before eating his lunch.

Also as far as Christianity goes he's a bit too showy for my taste, for me to see him as more a marketing tool for Jebus than just a humble Christian boy. thus I am compelled to ridicule him. Beyond that I could care less.

I don't have any skin in the game on all of the off the field persona stuff with Tebow, but it does make watching a crappy Broncos/Jets game kind of fun. I think it might even make a crappy Broncos/Chargers game interesting. I think SD losing to Broncos and Tebow might bring the axe on Norv (possibly).

this is really the heart of the issue right here - no way am I watching that game if not for Tebow, and like the announcers (and most ppl watching) I couldn't stop myself from laughing at the sheer absurdity of the final drive. with Orton there's no way that game is remotely interesting. with Tebow its all anyone can talk about.