2012 NFL Week 15 - Goddamn, is it still just the regular season? Save us, playoffs! Save us!

Cincinnati Bengals @ Philadelphia Eagles
Indianapolis Colts @ Houston Texans
Green Bay Packers @ Chicago Bears
Washington Redskins @ Cleveland Browns
Minnesota Vikings @ St. Louis Rams
Tampa Bay Bucs @ New Orleans Saints
New York Giants @ Atlanta Falcons
Denver Broncos @ Baltimore Ravens
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Miami Dolphins
Carolina Panthers @ San Diego Chargers
Detroit Lions @ Arizona Cardinals
Seattle Seahawks @ Buffalo Bills
Kansas City Chiefs @ Oakland Raiders
Pittsburgh Steelers @ Dallas Cowboys
San Fran. 49ers @ New England Patriots
New York Jets @ Tennessee Titans

lol I was just looking back at this season's thread titles and realized I'd already forgotten about the replacement refs. That shit seems like it was three seasons ago.

I'm going to the Falcons-Giants game. Huge game for both teams, Falcons for respect, Giants to actually make the playoffs. Cant wait.

This is a great week of football, by the way. Killer games abound.

god damnit Goodell

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8743130/nfl-discuss-expanding-playoff-field-roger-goodell-says

do we really want 16 playoff teams? we're already in a world where the 7-9 Seahawks can win a playoff game. let's turn this into the NBA where top-tier teams don't even have to try!

Drew Brees apparently nuked him again today

please can someone just murder goodell and 10 or 15 owners

there is clearly just constant pressure from some of the owners who are determined to eviscerate the golden goose. there is definitely a rich business guy mentality of 'i don't mind if we all get less overall as long as i get a bigger share of it' - preferring 2 dollars out of 5 over 5 dollars out of 50

guys, str8 honest question:

http://deadspin.com/5968256/rob-parker-lowers-the-bar-on-first-take-is-robert-griffin-iii-a-brother-or-a-cornball-brother

what the FUCK

yeah rob parker is a shithead even compared to skip fucking bayless

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"Roger Goodell overlooking the NFL."

so the Eagles suck

I think they blocked their own punt earlier?

I can't believe that this is the same team from the 2nd quarter

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holy hell

three Philly turnovers in 71 seconds

Philly has committed a turnover 4 times in their last 5 plays

they have basically spent the second half playing like a dirty diaper

the Eagles are a disconcerting signal

wow Eagles got called for a penalty I didn't even know existed

okay is "disconcerting" REALLY that big of a word?

eagles are an example of what happens when you don't have an offensive line, a secondary, or a qb and you do have andy reid

I think celebrating their second quarter performance by rolling in duck fat was a bad idea on the Eagles' part

wow the shot of the empty stands

read something like its the latest in the season EVAR that this many over .500 teams have played each other? p cool, sad no rg3

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This photo (from a late-night Pittsburgh sports talk radio show) has been making the Twitter rounds but I feel this should be included for posterity. I have started randomly laughing like five times this week since seeing it.

lol

nfl week 16: sounds drunk, wants to talk about charlie batch

gangnam style dude is performing at bills/seahawks halftime today.

I give up, I will never get sick of gangnam style

lol classic xp

kirk cousins time

commentators say he needs to Manage The Game

DEATH TO THE REDSKINS

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"Asante Samuel just picked Eli. five years too late."

T-Rick is just a beast. He bulls his way past a crowd of defenders better than anyone I've ever seen.

hahahaha ed reed

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goddamn, ap

loltimore ravens

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pls do not kick to jacoby jones. at all.

so, firing cam cameron seems to be working out pretty well

these games today you are joking me

which of these sweet matchups do i watch oh they are both 17-0 at halftime so cool

but i bought an xl pats tee at the job lots so im primed for tonight

shutting out the wretched NY Giants feels really good and cool

i support this result

why cant the colts beat the texans tho, isnt andrew luck suposed to be magical

stoked at winning another NFC North title but McCarthy probably had the worst two consecutive playcalls of all time

nice stat: seattle has now scored 78 consecutive points

russ has looked v good today

fire norv

good Romo

that was the most roethlisberger TD of all time

elsewhere, bills look spectacularly horrible today

another team that needs an entire organizational overhaul

it should be a crime in this country to emply dave wannstedt

prob why theyre moving to canada

Sea! Hawks!

the lions are singularly embarrassing

detroit u r a disgrace. also, i have seen enough of matt stafford now. there's nothing there.

staffy's 5th in dyar this year fwiw

sandwiched between rodgers and brees

there's a lot there, there's just a lot of picks there

there's also a WR corps whose no. 2 wr was banned from the team for purposefully sabotaging the offense

o shit

it is tough to really evaluate because stafford throws more than any other qb in the league. that skews things of course but i just see him make too many bad decisions. i have had the 'but he looks good on paper' debate w/ myself thru the season but now i am just at the fuck him stage, he undoes his positive contributions by being too frequent a liability. I M O

man so many passes through receivers' hands for the cowboys

yeah, i neglected to mention that hes 13th in DVOA (rate stat). im somewhat agnostic on him but i guess i think they can win with him, hes definitely not a grossman

no no kick it u cowardss

lol i just saw the seahawks fake punt. keep it classy pete

these coaches and punting

uhhhh that was an obvious punt situation

not if u have any understanding of GLORY

i am angry that p'burgh haven't won this. the afc north is our line of defense against jets in the playoffs

i am rooting for the cowboys because i hate the giants

we have the redskins for that tho

aw feck

lol sick

ben what u do in your personal life is one thing but this is IMPORTANT u dozy fuck

we have the redskins for that tho

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:46 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

group effort

did simms seriously say that was not a bad throw

it wasnt except that it got intercepted and lost the game for them

haha this game is awesome i shouldve watched the whole thing

icing the kicker is the laaaaamest thing in sports

except for all of baseball

lol

lol

"that was not a bad throw" *mike wallace lunges 2 yards in reverse as ball is intercepted*

that was not a bad throw, for dallas

uhhhh that was an obvious punt situation

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 00:42 (7 minutes ago) Permalink

nope

haha okay

it's an obvious punt situation for people who haven't considered the stats, sure

overtime is 50/50 can they improve on those odds by kicking there, i think prob

they should have gone for the first down

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/09/4th-down-study-part-1.html

well the good news is that you'll never be an nfl head coach

unlike some people itt

who cares what the stats say, listen to Jord's gut

you're acting as if that decision is context neutral, and it's not

haha the context is that if they get a first down they WIN THE GAME

better to just punt it, hope there's no punt return, and hope you win a coin flip I guess

haha the context is that if they get a first down they WIN THE GAME

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:01 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark

uh, no

there's a lot of things to consider but to say it's an "obvious" punt is just to ignore all the statistical evidence that says you should go for it on 4th down in most circumstances past your own 20

if they convert there they have it in FG range with a timeout and a first down, the chances of them winning are way above 50% in that situation

i love rodney harrison trash talking @ brady at every opportunity

i think they shouldve kicked it

nbc sideline reporter calls it a bit of "irony" that the guy driving that car in which cowboys' teammate was killed was on the sidelines cheering on their team this week

not sure if that's the right word

there's a lot of things to consider but to say it's an "obvious" punt is just to ignore all the statistical evidence that says you should go for it on 4th down in most circumstances past your own 20

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:04 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

when the cowboys had the ball on fourth down, win expectancy was slightly in pit's favor (.51 on the win expectancy scale). when the steelers took over the ball, it bumped minimally in pit's favor (.52 on the win expectancy scale). when the game went into overtime, win expectancy swung way back in dallas' favor (.39 on the win expectancy scale).

but please tell me more about "stats"

what happens to the win expectancy if they convert on 4th?

you're just ignoring:

Dallas' chances of converting on 4th
Dallas' win probability if they don't convert

and lol at the win probability going down for Dallas but that being nbd

well considering that they still would've needed another first down to have a comfortable look at the FG, i would bet that it would have bumped less in their favor than it would in pitt's favor had dallas turned it over on downs

rodney harrison and dan patrick again

"You keep looking at me when you say Cincinnati."

"Yeah"

long...... awkward...... pause......

"You want me to say something good about them?"

(sorry I was out and missed all of the 4pm games)

all the "stats" I've seen on 4th down conversion say you're wrong but good job looking up win probabilities in overtime

it's almost as if 4th down conversion stats don't exist in a vacuum

Their offense was doing very well though

win expectancy scale: dead on
4th down conversion: doesn't exist in a vacuum

when the cowboys had the ball on fourth down, win expectancy was slightly in pit's favor (.51 on the win expectancy scale). when the steelers took over the ball, it bumped minimally in pit's favor (.52 on the win expectancy scale). when the game went into overtime, win expectancy swung way back in dallas' favor (.39 on the win expectancy scale).

but please tell me more about "stats"

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:10 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so basically it was even money based on these numbers, except wtf is this when the game went into overtime, win expectancy swung way back in dallas' favor (.39 on the win expectancy scale).

whos making up these weirdo win expectancy charts, that makes no sense

Dallas has a 61-39 edge in overtime somehow, but on 4th and 4 they're fucked

my point is just that unless they got 15+ yards on fourth down, they still would've needed to get another first down after that to have a comfortable field goal attempt. the reward of merely gaining the first down did not outweigh the risk of not getting that. and the win expectancy chart bears that out.

the teams played to a tie but now one of them has a 60% chance of winning in overtime

jordan this 'win expectancy chart' is looking mighty suspicious

whos making up these weirdo win expectancy charts, that makes no sense

― lag∞n, Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

games are never 50-50 to start... home teams are always given a slight edge afaik. i'm not a win expectancy guru so i can't totally explain why it was 60/40 boys at the start of OT and i'm sure there are other factors going into that calculation besides that.

my point is just that unless they got 15+ yards on fourth down, they still would've needed to get another first down after that to have a comfortable field goal attempt. the reward of merely gaining the first down did not outweigh the risk of not getting that. and the win expectancy chart bears that out.

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 17, 2012 1:21 AM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gaining the first down pretty much nukes any chance of the Steelers winning in regulation and they have 30 seconds and a timeout to get into better field goal range

right but it doesn't guarantee them a win. the flip side is they turn it over on downs and roethlisberger has to complete two passes for a victory.

i think that with the new overtime rules it made sense to play it safe... and if dallas was 10 yards further up on the field i would agree w/ you.

but it's not obvious, it's at least debatable man

he was so down. cmon idiots

also if they were playing the patriots or the texans or something i would agree w/ you. i think in an evenly matched game like that it makes sense to extend it.

but it's not obvious, it's at least debatable man

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

okay fair enough

statement of intent by niners

wasn't that a fumble?

oh hi randy moss <3

welkah C'MON MAN

Josh Dubow ‏@JoshDubowAP
The 119 yards allowed by #Raiders are fewest since 93 in 6-0 win vs SD 10/5/75

that's a fumble

ed hochuli will now overexplain

daria how come you are seeing the game instead of the president?

i saw something about a SF fumble earlier too, what happened there? how horrible was the brady int?

they moved the game to cnbc during the speech then back to nbc, I guess costas said what the plans were before it started

ahh

wow, this is something of a farce so far

brady threw deep for welker and welker slowed up a bit while signaling to the official that he'd been held on the play (maybe he had idk) which allowed rogers to catch it pretty easily

and return it about 50 yards, the last guy before he got to the endzone was brady who managed to take him down near the 5

next series second down with SF on the pats 5 yard line, gregory on the pats forces a fumble and they get the ball back

there have been iirc 3 actual turnovers and 3 almost-turnovers so far

thanks!

o you mother fuckers

what a shitshow

what is arrington doing on that play, he should have been the man on the spot

time for a pick six of THIS GUY kaepernick imo we haven't had enough wackiness this half

fake field goal

shoulda listened to me jim

pats getting let off the hook here

so they INT brady and return it 50 yards to the 5, fake a punt and pick up 31 to the NE 30 or so

and get 0 points off it

well, pats made the plays to get the ball back after the INT and stopped them from getting a first down just now.. it's not like this is easy weather to kick in

the accounts I read were that Obama's speech was tremendous, but it felt weird to jump into it right in the middle of a football game

holy fucking

how can some guy hurdle over ed reed today and rogers gets tackled like this

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one million turnovers. don't worry niners will give it right back that's the game plan

davis shoulda had that

unbelievable

wtf is this game

don't worry niners will give it right back that's the game plan

pats need to just fucking punt, and play this dumb turnover swap game in the SF half

can we put Wilfork in there on offense?

4th & 4 again :P

interesting on that 2nd down play. niners only rushed 3 and put 4 LBs with just a few yard spacing as a kind of shield against a short/intermediate pass over the middle. kind of an extreme version of the way Ds have been effective against NE in recent years, no fear of the long pass - real shame that stallworth got hurt. SF got lucky with no PI call tho.

we need one gronk already

wb 2012 pats d

hits his shin imo

clearly hits him

spin of the ball changes

refs have fucked this up, what in the world is happeneing

what just happened, does anyone understand it

how is it an illegal touch if the ball hit the SF player ffs

beat reporters following this are like, hochuli is so terrible

"the ruling on the field stands HOWEVER.." wtf at this

the ball hit ginn right there wtf at this, what has even happened

oh dear ed hochuli

no one understands this call, someone cut hochuli's mike apparently for the good of us all

if there was a holding penalty on the niners why is it 1st down instead of 4th over again?

they're like f*** it, just put the ball on the 20 nobody knows anything

they should've made belichick and harbaugh arm wrestle for the ball

hochuli suuuux

niners are more than good for this lead.

this is worse coverage than ever

no you don't want spikes covering davis again..

wow randy moss cut his hair?!

Seahawks first team to score 50+ two straight weeks since 1950

the niners are so dope

niners are impressive, i've only seen like 2 of their games this season until now

mccourty is thriving at safety.

i was kind of waiting for an interception from kaepernick. he has been making some bold throws with the air of a young player who hasn't been stung enough to think twice yet. NE making him look better than he probably is, but i am still impressed. niners look pretty damn good all over.

wow what a throw

^^^^

FFS

you have got to be fuckin kidding me. this is basically the same time of year that ridley went to shit last year.

hochuli gonna need ten minutes to think about stuff

what a mess of a game

they didn't trust ridley in the playoffs at all iirc

hasn't vereen fumbled a few as well?

wonder if they miss BJGE any

i don't even know how ridley was carrying the call there, it was out in front of him

it was vereen who fiumbled. ridley's wasn't a fumble before

bjge has had his own fumble probs this year

Glad everybody was writing off the falcons last week. I was at the game, it was over the second the giants missed the fog in the first quarter. An old fashioned ass kicking.

Fg not "fog". Goddam iPhone

ah vereen and ridley BOTH have fumbled it away this game, i see. great. where's that other guy, bolden

suspended for illegal substances but back soon

but maybe not as effective...

hahahahahah oh my god this is jets-level

this is just special

actually, bolden must be back, i remember seeing him last week

saints/pats shitshow back in 09 regular season wasn't this bad was it

the one time i actually want the pats to win too

ftr the only reason i will continue to watch this is because i just poured some whiskey

i feel this game should be ruled not a real thing that happened, thats all im gonna say

saints/pats shitshow back in 09 regular season wasn't this bad was it

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:44 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was brutal, brees put up 361 yards on like 18 passes and had a perfect passer rating

i didn't really think the pats could have a total meltdown game at this point in the season

at home!

if you play badly enough can the nfl rescind playoff qualification?

they let the super cardinals in there so no

the patriots should declared winners of this game imho clearly that guy touched the ball w/his middle finger or leg or w/e

wow brady had how much time right there, and no one open

danny woodhead in triple coverage was your best option there tom?

that's wild!

the ol' deep threat

wow that guy

who is that

give it to ridley what the hell

#47 -> hoomanawanui

i think a TE? they like to stock up on TEs

ok don't give it to ridley

3 straight runs cmon

give it to brady

yeah give it to brady that always works

otm

good call

he is v good at that

"people don't appreciate how competitive brady is" is this week's "belichick doesn't get enough credit"

ha srsly

he has not done enough glowering on the sidelines or hitting guys on the helmet and yelling in career no one has noticed that

frank gore dragged vince about 5 yards laterally and 2 forward

love to see welker get a free pasting on punt return duty

that was shit tom. be more competitive

BRADY

ballsy, but so close to getting sacked and so close to missing the throw

brady pretty chill about opposition calling timeout

that was kind of nuts

foxboro crowd apparently chanting YOU SUCK at hochuli

time to send hoomanawanui deep

lol really?? that only time he didn't do anything wrong

YES FREE YARDS

did lloyd take a dive there kinda

fuck yeah

regardless of how this ends up they got punched in the mouth and they punched back, don't know what else i can ask for

yeah otm

this is the possession that'll basically tell us what san francisco are about

others pointing out that brady spiked the ball on the field after they gave SF that time out & didn't get an unsportsmanlike flag for it
i guess peyton could get away with that too, anyone else?

anyway yeah this is something, i thought they might continue on the path to disaster

okay DEFENSE

it seems a little too petulant for peyton tbh

don't fuck this up on a scramble or screen ffs

BOOOOOOOOM

now - don't fuck this up on a scramble or screen ffs

Brady game facing

yeah peyton doesn't get this petulant

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that's a nice tackle by francis

yeah he did well not to lose him

san fran & wash are my two favorite offenses in the nfl

i make that 6 drops by NE tonight

there's brandon lloyd

oh shit

brandon lloyd

wut a game. lloyd!!!!

gold dog?

lloyd u beautiful man

this is a beautiful game

in its own way

give him that!!!

dang pats

this is exhilirating

belichick still pissed off

oh yeah

this game

damn this game is going hammer

brady is on another planet right now

this is manninglike

cmon defense, don't let up here

lamichael!

fucking return game

it wasn't the defense, but the special teams, now...

great great kick return. shit

hmmm good thing that harbaugh finally let lamichael get on the field

well that was fun

wow

jesus christ

okay brady

hahaha

First two-thirds of the game: Well I guess SF is just playin a little better right now, nothing too exciting, though

Last third: HAM HAM HAM HAM HAM

kaepernick almost bounced that throw too

just feel like SF will actually pull this out, but per cad still amazing turnaround by NE

omg that dolphins-jets game i had wiped that from my childhood

I know as soon as Michaels mentioned it I was like "HOLY SHIT I REMEMBER THAT GAME IT WENT FOREVER"

just feel like SF will actually pull this out, but per cad still amazing turnaround by NE

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i think they will but sf defense has had absolutely nothing this half, kind of amazing

in other news

@AlbertBreer A man just fell abt 30 ft from the top of the tunnel at Gillette. Medical people & police all over the place there.

NO HELMET TACKLE

just like SF O had to do something eventually, same will pass with their D. possibly right here.

tedd ginn is just the worst

pats O prob more gassed even than niners D, adrenal rollercoaster. psychological impact with that easy score after coming back level.

huge

ugh that was an awful drive. how do you not use kaepernick's legs at all.

yeah kaepernick hasn't moved out of the pocket all half it feels like

that penalty is bad news

wes welker catching punts inside the 10 huh

omg

noooooooooo

go for it

game

aw. well, that was fun

awww

yeesh

cmon kaep do something romo level

the way theyve been doing snaps tonight it's in the realm of possibility

that holding penalty on the last punt was a real bitch

kaepernick looks weirdly like a dude i know

miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiss

football is funny

lloyd has been on point

has he ever

yep, great lloyd game

well that was horrible

game just dribbled to a close

you can't really do cool onside kicks anymore

yeah :-[

that game

i would have preferred he lost today, but good for colin. inspiring stuff.

man... colin has a honker

colin durante

49ers seem really cool

espn replay on that 4th q niners kick return + pass to crabtree, ugh

lloyd 190 yards rec

running game was a disaster. what are they going to do down the stretch if (since) they can't trust ridley or vereen with the ball??

i really wouldn't read too much into the fumbles

i'm totally on the san fran bandwagon w/ colin at qb

i mean if ever a team was due for a turnover correction

punt returns less than impressive too. i like welker, but not in that role. xxps

every losing belichick press conference is the same as every other losing belichick press conference

"i didn't coach well, i didn't do a good job, we weren't good on offense, weren't good on defense, weren't good on special teams, we didn't do a good job, we need to play better"

wasn't tate a pretty good punt returner? until they traded him to the bengals. it doesn't seem like a priority for some reason. edelman was usually just okay..

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For Daria.

punt returns less than impressive too. i like welker, but not in that role. xxps

― collardio gelatinous, Monday, December 17, 2012 12:19 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes edelman is really a weapon in that part of the game

idgi do they not have heat in the press box

i have often wondered about that

tate was grate on the returns. not so hot as receiver, alas. xposts

idgi do they not have heat in the press box

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 17, 2012 12:23 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have often wondered about that

― call all destroyer, Monday, December 17, 2012 12:24 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Depends on the stadium, but a lot of times they're either in open air or in a little alcove with no glass.

that sounds miserable

btw vernon davis's artwork is impressive!

can totally imagine belichick walking by pressbox thermostat turning it to "off" and then ripping it off the wall

lawl

so why the hell was josh brent on the sideline today

Dude was at the memorial service on the insistence of Jerry Brown's family. I guess everyone involved is pretending he wasn't drunk as a motherfucker when he crashed his car and killed Brown. (A jury will have a different view, surely.)

aww <3 vernon davis from petworth dot gif

I am really having a hard time understanding the Cowboys organization putting the guy on the sidelines who was driving drunk and killed another member of the team. ???? There are so many things a player could do wrong that would get him suspended by the team and banned from the sidelines on game day, and that isn't one of them?

^^^^ allegedly, I should say

but still.. I don't understand it

so when is arizona going to make a retarded trade for cousins

two years after they acquire philip rivers

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fuck ouch

This is the best week for gif's in a long time.

I got to say looking at that Brandon Marshall clip, those Bears throw back jerseys are the shiznit. I think they may be the coolest ones out there.

Yeah, Bears throwbacks are the best throwbacks.

i love how all the espn guys clearly have no interest in this game

(probably should have turned it off after C'MON MAN)

Chris Johnson quietly had a pretty good season huh?

"I have no IDEA what they're doing with this sequence of plays!!!"

"I'm shocked that they let Tebow in the football game"

"For those of you waiting for Tebow Time.. there it was."

^^^ tirico.

"for those of you waiting for Tebow time...there it was"

lol!

that was pretty cold, from Tirico

Chucky doesn't get it

"I'm just not quite sure what they want to accomplish with Tim Tebow in this offense"

"They're confused, I'm confused, and I think a lot of people at home are as well"

so lolron landry just shoved an assistant coach for his own team, then shoved him again as he was trying to get back up?

You know what we need, another playoff spot so clubs like the Jets don't feel left out of the playoffs.

Mark Sanchez

"I just can't, for the life of me, understand why Mark threw that ball"

Wow Sanchez...so bad

tirico is SO happy that the jets lost

This is another delightful page in my "Games that disgusted Mike Tirico" scrapbook.

@ChrisBurke_SI
Tim Tebow is 0-for-1 with one sack ... and has a higher QB rating tonight than Mark Sanchez.

Hahahaha unreal!
Tirico was loving it!

Sanchez, jesus...my lord I think I'm going to actually watch First Take tomorrow to see Bayless gloat about toad

that was mark sanchez' sistine chapel

wow

that game was so terrible it was amazing

lol excluding that long run johnson ran 20 times for 28 yards

looks like i missed a good one

The botched punt into fumble on botched snap was breathtaking

it really was phenomenal

terrible sanchez int -> titans go nowhere on three downs -> titans terrible punt of 25 yards sets up jets inside the 30 yard line -> sanchez immediately fumbles the snap, game over

"this is dysfunction at its highest level in the national football league" (dilfer)

trent dilfer is so mad

Woody Johnson: "I'll talk to you guys after the season." To reporters

The ESPN guys seem at a loss for words

ooooh rex ryan postgame this is going to be fun

they really should have put McElroy in after the 3rd INT

rex pressers always suck

Steve Young is going off on Sanchez

stu scott looks like such a schmuck in that jaket

*jacket

god I wish I was watching this

@ConorTOrr: Cromartie said he's not answering questions because he might "tell you all the truth"

Sanchez is grossman minus the chipmunk cheeked loveability and w more incompetence

Dont know about the lovability, but he's sure a lot more incompetent.

When Tebow went in Gruden specifically said "I'd like to see Tebow throw some". Then two plays later he was criticizing the fact he was in there. Strange.

Sanchez should ride pine the remaining two games.

i am fascinated to see what they do with sanchez now. all that money tied up for next year, but they have to get rid of him. how can they start another season with him on the roster. no one will pick up that check of course, but you know someone will take him when he's available for cheap - just being a regular starter somewhere seems to guarantee you one more try somewhere else, however shitty you are.

anyway, rip #6. heaven needed a qb who can occasionally make throws over the middle between the 20s.

the interesting thing about the jets is that you've got tanny, rex, and sanchez, and you could be justified in firing all of them or any combination of them (cutting, in the case of sanchez i guess). honestly not sure what i would do if i were in charge beyond the fact that they desperately need help evaluating nfl talent.

I still think that Rex isn't the problem with that team. If you're going to blame him for this disaster you have to give him some credit for taking two pretty horrible teams to the AFC Championship. Sanchez at this point is just a sunk cost. He'll be a backup for a few years I guess but really I don't think there's any chance he gets better. It's okay that he's terrible with deep throws but the fact that he keeps getting picked off on slants and screens is what's so damaging b/c those are the ones that get run back. And unless they pick up Alex Smith or Matt Flynn I don't know who they could possibly start to make things better next year.

i really don't know how much credit to give rex. he took two teams that were really stacked with talent on defense overall as well as on the offensive line deep into the playoffs. but a lot of those guys were from the prior regime. also a point i've been hearing recently is that there is basically no more important job for a head coach these days than to get the best out of his qb--coach him up or find someone who can. rex has failed miserably at that.

whoever is responsible, letting their running game deteriorate is what has killed them as much as anything. i am not sure if rex has ever done much more than bring bart scott with him.

sanchez is 33rd rated qb per qb rating this year so there's got to be at least one guy they can get hold of to improve things

that team rex inherited had alan faneca and damien woody. faneca in particular was outstanding in the run game iirc.

Now I'm regretting not watching this thing last night.

the defense is still pretty good! but yeah whoever put that offense together deserves a pink slip. if it's Rex so be it but I think he'll be on the sidelines next year with some team

super mad I didn't watch this last night

If the Mayans were right, this was the last NFL game that will ever happen.

mayans predict end of mark sanchez career accurate to within 4 days

:D

McElroy named the starter of the last two Jets games this season: http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/52572/reports-jets-leaning-toward-greg-mcelroy

http://www.logrithmic.com/sanchez.gif

Is Carson Palmer back atop the USC QB rankings?

barnwell article has some choice nuggets
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/45527/its-time-for-a-jets-intervention

This was the seventh time this year that Sanchez has thrown 20 passes in a game while failing to complete at least 50 percent of those passes. Nobody else in the league has more than four such games.

nice rex_dodge.gif. i loled when that happened

The Jet defense was pretty good both the years they got to the AFC title game. The offense was also really good at running the ball. They kind of won despite Sanchez being a pretty poor QB.

What I would do if I was one of those clubs in the black hole QB quandry like the Jets or Cards is go and try to get Kyle 'Weirdbeard' Orton. I still don't get why KC didn't bring him back, they were winning with him at the end of last year.

i gotta say barnwell's idea of bringing in norv as coordinator (assuming he gets fired) is maybe the best thing they could do if they don't want to blow the whole godamn thing up

I Thot orton was "uhhhhh, no thanks , here's the number of the guy who backed me in Denver who was not Tim tebow.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/12/will_mcdaniels.html

mike lombardi to oversee personnel at browns with mcdaniels as possible head coach. seems like pretty fantastical speculation, but fun nonetheless. i would be a junior brownie if this actually happened.