"One group of Jags supporters isn't ready to give up on 2013" NFL 2013-14 Week Three

Chiefs @ Eagles
Texans @ Ravens
Browns @ Vikings
Giants @ Panthers
Packers @ Bengals
Rams @ Cowboys
Lions @ Washington
Bucs @ Pats
Cards @ Saints
Chargers @ Titans
Falcons @ Dolphins
Bills @ Jets
Colts @ 49ers
Jags @ Seahawks
Bears @ Steelers
Raiders @ Broncos

Make it so...

12-4 last week, 22-10 overall

Chiefs @ Eagles- This looks pretty even on paper to me. I’ll stick Philly at home.

Texans @ Ravens- I don’t know how to read either club. Ravens D got walked on by Denver, then the offense couldn’t do much against Cleveland. Texans have been winning kinda ugly. I’m probably wrong, but I’ll take Ravens at home.

Browns @ Vikings- The Browns defense seems ready for prime time, but the offense is just not there at all. Minnesota would be pretty dangerous if they had a top tier QB. Vikings seem better, but I could see this being close.

Giants @ Panthers- Panthers have played good enough to lose and the Giants are just not going to be any good throwing the ball 50 times a game. Panthers on paper seem a bit better, so give me Carolina.

Packers @ Bengals- Hard to take Cincy to beat Green Bay until they actually knock them off, but on paper this is a pretty even steven matchup. Green Bay. I think while Jay Gruden and the Bengals have the tools to be big passing team, I do think they would be more dangerous going into a time of possession team and just controlling the clock. They do that and keep Rogers off the field, I think it could be a pretty interesting game. I think Green Bay is vulnerable to the run and Cincy could have an interesting run game (give Bernard the rock).

Rams @ Cowboys- Rams are decent, but I just can’t see Jeff Fisher wanting to throw the ball 55 times a game. I think Dallas is going to be good on D this year. I like Dallas and hopefully they don’t play stupid (like they often do) with the turnovers/penalties.

Lions @ Washington- Washington just doesn’t look that good at all and it’s more than RGIII. It is hard to take the Lions on the road, but give me Detroit in an upset.

Bucs @ Pats- Pats. Yeesh it will be mumble and glower when those two coaches meet after the game.
Cards @ Saints- Saints but I’d believe it if Arizona gives them a game. AZ should have traded for Palmer like 3 years ago.
Chargers @ Titans- Both of these clubs are kind of middling mysteries to me. I guess SD.
Falcons @ Dolphins- Intriquing matchup here…I really want to take Miami, but will take Atlanta on rep.
Bills @ Jets- who knows…Jets
Colts @ 49ers- Niners will eat ‘em alive. Indy is kind of pushing Luck to have to do a bit too much.
Jags @ Seahawks- Seahawks and man that is a matchup of two clubs with some funky uniforms…all metallic and green blue.
Bears @ Steelers- These clubs just rarely play, which kind of seems weird considering their historical makeup. Got to think the Bears are the better club and I hope they win, but that said it is hard to think the Steelers being 0-3.
Raiders @ Broncos- Broncos

brian hoyer starting for cleveland. he didn't show much in his brief run out for the cardinals, and the browns offense is not really equipped was any qb to shine, so this might kill his nfl career, but he is unlikely to be worse than weeden. who is out because he banged his thumb on a helmet?

it seems smart to go with hoyer over campbell. they are probably not winning the super bowl this year (sorry brownie) and they already know what they have with campbell, which is not much.

equipped for any qb to shine

altho that is perhaps unfair, when josh gordon comes back (if he can stay off the syrup) you actually do have a reasonable supporting cast there

Poor Jason Campbell. He had a talent.

ryan clady out for the season is a big deal. pman can get the ball on its way quickly enough that line problems shouldn't be a big deal overall, but could mean a couple more hits per game to that fragile, geriatric frame.

none of the Browns QBs had any success anywhere else either, I don't think it's because their system is just that terrible

primetime is really going to try to make me watch the steelers and raiders?

deion sanders?

yeah isn't he a little sprite that buzzes around telling ppl to watch more football now?

lol i love the idea of him trying to build some buzz about steelers @ raiders 5 weeks out

mind you, who doesn't want to watch the steelers lose in oakland?

i realize i am misunderstanding your original post

mind you, who doesn't want to watch the steelers lose in oakland?

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:56 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now this i would watch.

Steelers are poor on both sides of the ball this year, and Pryor keeps looking awesome. Should be fun to watch imo.

Over the past hour I've come around on Hoyer so at my house it's all Hoyer all the time. I've thrown out all my Campbell soup and am eating only Hoyer soup from here on in.

v interesting i thot, and i feel like this makes sense of some unusual moves throughout the league

The league is headed for a two-tiered system: We may be close to being there already but the middle class of players is disappearing. We are looking at a roster makeup of five highly paid players and the rest of the team making the minimum. It is yet to be seen if this is a good or bad thing but as an agent I think it’s bad. Owners are pushing their GMs and salary cap mangers to reward just a handful of players (about four to six) and get the rest from the draft and undrafted free agent pool.

Why is this happening? The new CBA has made draft picks and undrafted free agents so attractive that teams will part with solid players once they hit thirty years old and bet on developing a younger guy, saving money and potentially avoiding the risk of having an older player get injured. When an older player gets injured there are exponential fiscal liabilities such as the injury protection benefit, carrying a vested veteran on IR, pension requirements, workers’ compensation and/or other collectively bargained injury benefits such as the line of duty benefit. It seems like the days of starting but not being marquee Guards, Centers, Tight Ends, and/or Safeties making $3 to $5 million a year are disappearing. Look for the money poured into Corners, QBs, DE’s and left tackles to continue and to be accelerated versus other positions. Once this system takes root, I truly believe careers for non-pro bowl players, the middle class, will get shorter and shorter. The flip side is more young players will hit the field sooner. I also believe one fall-out of this pattern is the record setting pace of penalties and sacks that we saw in the first two weeks.

More emphasis will be put on coaches who know how to develop young talent. They will be coveted and paid handsomely by smart organizations. We could see continued sloppy football in the first quarter of every season to come. When this makeup becomes coagulated throughout the league, It will be interesting to see how a locker room of haves and have-nots will gel.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/3-predictions-and-trends-for-2013.html

This day of MONSTER TRADE,The Tidal Wave Of Deal making…Shocks the system of "..Didn't see THIS ONE COMING!!!!!!" Grig's Rollin' Dice!—
Jim Irsay (@JimIrsay) September 18, 2013

W T F

Trent Richardson

strikes me as a fairly genius trade by the colts

To me this trade means the Browns are angling for a QB.

next year they have 2 firsts, 2 thirds and 2 fourths

good move for both sides imo

I thought it would be Jones-Drew before the player was revealed, because what the hell point did Jax have holding on to him anyway. But yeah, this is bigger news.

wat

Has a team ever before boasted the #1 and #3 players from a draft class just a year removed from when said draft took place? Probably not.

‏@markcraignfl 19m
Only the Browns could trade four picks to needlessly move up one spot to take a running back they would end up trading 18 games later.

amazing move by the colts

however my bobby rainey prognostication in ILNFL was swiftly decimated

I hope this means it's time for Jimmy Haslam to break out the comic sans!

THANK GOD I OVERPAID FOR TICKETS TO THE LIONS/BROWNS GAME

WOW. SUCH TRADE. VERY INTEREST

this is a poor decision by both sides imo

Seems like a no-brainer for the Colts

This trade swings Colts no matter how you look at it. They're looking at a pretty good 2013 season, which means their rd 1 pick would've probably been in the 18-28 range. Richardson was a #3 pick talent just one season ago. Colts now have the #1 and #3 players from the 2012 draft. Cleveland? Bupkus.

http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img13832604.jpg

They're looking at a pretty good 2013 season

Feel like there's a pretty good chance the Colts are 2-6 after Week 9.

@49ers (loss)
@Jaguars (win)
Seahawks (loss)
@Chargers (probably a loss!! GO BOLTZ!!)
Broncos (loss)
Bye
@Texans (loss)

Then their schedule gets a lot easier, but it might be too late.

We drafted him 3rd AND traded another pick to move up and grab him. For those counting at home that's the 3rd overall pick plus a second pick traded away for a late 1st round pick..way to go.

We drafted him 3rd AND traded another pick to move up and grab him.

You traded four picks to move up and grab him I think.

Fwiw I think most Colts fans are hating this trade. No one is down with the new Pep Hamilton focus on the running game, and considering the extant pass-blocking problems + losing Ballard (who was an excellent blocker) and ongoing Allen injury (also an A+ blocker), no one wanted them to throw away a 1st Round pick to spend on OLine in order to essentially double-down on committing to the run game. Everyone in Indy wants more passing.

Those same fans also tend to not believe in the running game opening up the passing game (I guess their offensive schemes, as they're set up now, telegraph a lot to the defense?). I was pumped that they brought in Bradshaw, whom I think is more than enough, but idk super talented, young rb to pair with Luck seems like an interesting enough proposition imo.

Falcons are in deep deep trouble. Biermann: out for season. Ewing: Out for season. Weatherspoon: out till week 11. Jackson: out for four weeks. Samuel: gimpy. R.White: gimpy. Offensive line: sieve.

I think having balance between the pass and run is still the way to go in NFL. If you can run the ball, you got options and you can really chew the clock up. I think the later Manning Colts teams definitely lost something after the running game went out.

The thing I think Trent Richardson could add to the Colts is coming out of the backfield to catch the ball, which he did decently last year (51 catches 7.2 y/r). Heck, Andrew Luck did plenty of handing off of the rock even at Stanford as that team was also really, really good at running the ball. Having a good play action game makes a difference.

You never know on injuries and who is going to get drafted with the pick, but this seems like a good deal for the Colts and perhaps even not a bad idea for the Browns. NFL trades are rare and odd because the trade deadline is so early in the season. It would be more interesting I think if clubs could deal up to say game 9 or 10 (kind of the equivalent to say the MLB version). The clubs that would really, really benefit is maybe a club that loses a starting key player, but is really good everywhere else and maybe they could bet to get someone to try to go 'all in'.

For a sport that talking about the game itself is a big business, I think it would pay some dividends on having a more open trading schedule.

the moral of the story is don't draft a running back 3rd. hell, don't draft a running back in the first round. richardson is a minimal upgrade over bradshaw.

yeah, the very worst part of this is what the browns gave over to get richardson in the first place obv, and particularly in that context they got too little for him 15 months later. but at the same time indy have overpaid for an RB in the 2013 nfl, one who is not without question marks and for all that he looks to be a good player he is not the kind of guy that is ever going to take over a game.

also, and this should never go unsaid, fuck jim irsay

he's such an ass

This trade swings Colts no matter how you look at it.

well this isn't true. if richardson continues to be an average running back and the browns pick a really high impact guy next year with their extra first round pick then it would certainly swing in the browns favor.

i also don't agree that richardson is a marginal upgrade over bradshaw though. you still have to factor in his upside.

i don't think you can evaluate this based on what the browns gave up to get richardson considering it was a totally different front office

what is trent richardson's upside?

he was a consensus elite rb prospect who's played one banged up season on one of the worst offenses in the NFL, it's not for certain that we've seen all he is

Richardson is an "average" running back?

i would say his upside is a pro bowl running back?

if he plays up to that level i think it's worth a draft pick that will likely fall in the latter half of the first round when you consider that the colts are set up to perennially content for the playoffs

Richardson is an "average" running back?

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:15 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark

is the implication that he's below average? i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt of having played on a browns team with one of the worst passing games in the nfl

if i'm the colts though there are so many needs i fill before running back

that's probably true though i'm not sure luck is quite at the level where you want him throwing as many passes as brees or brady etc

but you also have to consider the avenues available to a team looking to significantly improve in the week 3 of the season

Passing league or no, T-Rich is really good, much better than average, he's just been playing behind an awful o-line for running backs. He'll be great on the Colts, which is a shame because I'd feel a lot better about this trade if the draft pick didn't pick was a bit earlier than in the 20s.

i think grigson had a really terrible offseason but i like this trade just fine

i don't get the sense that the colts offensive line is partic good for running backs?

the browns have a much better line, but i guess indy at least has a qb so the other team can't put 11 in the box vs richardson anymore

Colts offense though is setup in more of a traditional passing attack. The third wide out isn't always on the field. They use a FB and often will use two TE. Bradshaw did best when he was a part of a RB tandem in NY, so I don't see this necessarily changing with Indy. Also one good way to improve your defense is controlling the time of possession. I think having some more skills players for Luck is good, as he could use some help.

sure, but that first round pick could've gotten a player for their shitty defense

in theory, depends on what was for sale though

well i meant in the draft

i have to feel like trent is a proven enough talent where he's worth the pick but I don't know Indy well enough to know if they have a particular weakness that would be well served by a top level draft choice in the upcoming season
seems like a huge win for the colts?

their entire defense sucks

richardson is not proven at all, cmon now. his track record consists of one okay season in a bad offense. indy is gambling with a first round pick that they really need to use elsewhere that a. they can provide a better environment for him to perform in and b. he will actually improve to the next level given the opportunity. and arguably even if the gamble pays off the price still wasn't worth it. this is the kind of move you make for the one piece that you hope is going to make you a contender. they could've traded that first for '97 barry sanders and they still aren't winning shit with that defense.

their defense is pretty fuckin average though yeah

Yeah, the thing is that, no matter how bad their defense might be, they still want to add offensive protection before anything else. Luck was sacked like 50+ times last year and things have actually looked a little worse this season. So, even if Richardson is a top-level talent who could hypothetically run well enough to open up the passing game, the OLine won't be good enough to provide that opportunity. So, Colts end up in the same situation as a week ago, just with another rb to share watch the OLine suck. Like, they can fill up the skill positions with whomever, but if there's no OLine, it doesn't matter.

W/o having looked at his advanced stats, I'm hoping Richardson helps with redzone / short yardage plays, somewhere the Colts have been hurt so far this season. Also hope this means we won't see Donald Brown try to block anyone again from here on out.

It's not madness to believe Andy Reid is going to take his Chiefs into Philly tonight and win, is it? Unless it comes down to a case of clock management, that is.

i feel like defenses that really on their strength up front will struggle the most the adapt to kellyball. kc's good pass rush in particular is going to be chasing shadows and get gassed by the tempo and play count. i think teams will need a bit of explosion on offense to overtake the eagles which thanks to their shortcomings on that side of the ball means that you don't need to bring much, cf rivers to eddie royal, but the only element of the kansas offense right now that rates more explosive than an indoor firework is jamaal charles, and i don't know if that's enough.

really = rely

maybe i should read my posts before posting them

can't believe there's already an nfl game tonight

yeah now that it is thursday football every week there's no more than 2 nights between nfl games. altho i am no fan of thursday night football in principal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlaRZOUwn4

my boyfriend couldn't really comprehend that there is also football on thursday nights

I really don't get why they dont stagger the bye weeks to play into the Thursday game, so they'd have 11 days between games instead of 14, then 10 for the next one, rather than regularly have games four days apart. Seems so obvious, if nothing else the Weeks 4-13 Thursday games should play this way

my boyfriend couldn't really comprehend that there is also football on thursday nights

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm with him, it's not the world i grew up in and it's too damn much

this is perfect my football dilettante ways, except I have a pile of music 3 inches high that I have to learn in two weeks

commercial breaks, man. John Rutter pieces can wait!

I like there being so much football on that I can ignore some of it and know there's more coming in just a day or two (though I'll be watching tonight's game).

xp: I would e-punch you but some of the stuff I have to learn is Rutter quality (the Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and The Full Monty songs I have to learn are really making me dad)

(and sad, and unable to spell or proofread)

i am in favor of mon/thurs/sun games except when i get to busy to set my fantasy/pickem rosters

How have I never seen this before? hahaha

http://vimeo.com/8854872

bwahaha

http://i.imgur.com/49WHZAv.png

goddammit donald is an all time fav for me

Haha this is great

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/nfl-waging-secret-legal-war-632282

everyone's a loser in that story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V1jfGG4G9A

Packers player on You Bet Your Life. Just as a curio

"She is going to go public with an explanation of how ridiculous it was for the NFL and its fans to devote such furor to this incident, while ignoring the genocide occurring in her home country and several other countries, topics she frequently speaks to,"

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121110154343/snl/images/8/83/SNL_Cecily_Strong_-_TGYWYHSACWAAP.jpg

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/19/tyrann-mathieu/

Packers player on You Bet Your Life. Just as a curio

― I have gathered no gaudy flowers of speech in other men's gardens (dowd), Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:54 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

christ almighty, left tackles haven't changed a bit in how they answer questions

wtf did the eagles just try to do

why is alex smith rolling out on every play

how did alex smith look good for a year or so

#alexsmithquestions

@greggrosenthal: Alex Smith has thrown 3 passes this season that have traveled 20+ yards in the air.

SHADY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

vick looking highly terroristic out there tonight

this crazy high powered college offense

what the hell are we watching

Airport 77

Eagles just make way too many mistakes, got to give the D a hand in keeping it as close as it is.

Eric Fisher has been absolutely awful

thursday games shd be against the law

this game sucks balls

chip is calling a weird game

seriously

Eric Fisher seriously challenging Mandarich and Gallery here

AFC West running this league

salute to philadelphia http://www.buzzfeed.com/erikmalinowski/massive-brawl-during-eagles-game-leads-to-mass-ejections

buoyed

this is cool for andy reid though

lane johnson giving eric fisher a run for his money giving robert gallery a run for his money

i can't really figure out if kelly had a weird gameplan or if kansas did something to force his hand, but philly have played this game on offense exactly as kansas would've wanted - vick dropping back and trying to make throws into good man coverage that he is uncomfortable with, in the face of pretty consistent pressure. meanwhile, kcc has an excitement-free offense, limited but few mistakes, and their defense looks every bit good enough to compensate for those limitations. net they are probably not quite good enough to get past denver but i can't wait to see those teams play.

andy reid has to lose the utility belt tho, fucking hell

yeah i thought chip didn't run it enough... but also that's a pretty good secondary and philly had no one who could get open

riley cooper being your second WR is gonna fuck your offense up

Reid and kc are a good match. JamaL Charles is fucking awesome

thursday games shd be against the law

i never realized until tonight that friday night games are, for all intents and purposes, against the law. they can be played but can't legally be broadcast. and yes there should absolutely be a law prohibiting thursday night games too.

good to see my Super Bowl pick 3-0 :D

one group of jags supporters prove kiddie pools arent just for kiddies anymore! :-)

FCC (c what i did there), explain how friday night games can't be legally broadcast?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Broadcasting_Act_of_1961

The Atlantic recently published a fantastic breakdown of NFL broadcasting and stadium deals: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/10/how-the-nfl-fleeces-taxpayers/309448/

The law has been interpreted to include the so-called "blackout rules" which protect a home team from competing games broadcast into its home territory on a day when it is playing a game at home, and from having to broadcast games within its home market area that have not sold out. It also, in effect, protects high school football and college football game attendance by blacking out pro football games locally on Friday evenings and Saturdays during those sports' regular seasons; these measures effectively outlawed the broadcasting (and, in practice, the playing) of NFL games on those days, since virtually all of the country is within 75 miles of at least one high school game on every Friday night in September and October.
This portion of the act has since been partially circumvented; the NFL extended its season in 1978 to allow several weeks of Friday night or Saturday games if the league so wished.

that great atlantic article, by TMQ guy gregg easterbrook, is where i found out about the friday night law. and, yeah, i guess if the NFL flexed its muscles it could probably do anything it wanted to. but it probably has no real interest in fucking with high school and college football, 'cause they're part of its ecosystem.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/25650/whats-nickname-origins-all-32-nfl-team-names

Falcons could've been called the Peaches. Glad that cooler heads prevailed.

Surprised how many teams were named by contests.

Chet Soda, Oakland’s first general manager, sponsored a name-the-team contest in 1960. Helen A. Davis, an Oakland policewoman, submitted the winning entry, Señors, and was rewarded with a trip to the Bahamas.

Chet Soda

the bills is the coolest name in a lot of ways cause its a pun on the city name and a plural of a persons name

I like that they could've been named the Buffalo Nickels, though.

sadly, the buffalo gals was not one of the options.

Neighbor: Aldon Smith's foot was still on the accelerator of SUV, which was against tree, when police arrived. It caused tires to smoke

Count me as a guy who loves the Thursday night game. I don't generally watch any tv other than sports so I give it a big thumbs up

Aldon Smith is a fucking idiot

TNT thursday nights during basketball season >>>>> TNF

I love the idea of the Thursday night game but the players are visibly more tired and lifeless, they really really need to hold them after bye weeks and that's it

I mean Pats/Jets was basically unwatchable, even Chiefs/Eagles didn't really deliver

otm

TNT thursday nights during basketball season >>>>> TNF

― druhilla (k3vin k.), Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:05 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ok pal. Go ahead and enjoy that.

it...sounds like he already does.

lol

Has probably already been mentioned but holy shit NFL RedZone is the best way to watch when your team isn't playing. Curated channel-flipping.

hey when did this thread get commercial breaks

/jk

td brian hoyer!

brian hoyer, best qb

carolina on pace to sack eli manning ~20 times

browns vikings turning into the shootout we expected

packers looking pretty awful so far, +1 turnover margin and down by 11

kenbrell!

yay thompkins td

washington department of football playing some offense today

too bad nobody can cover megatron

Does Washington have rb option plays built into their offensive schemes? Looked like Morris was close to flicking it over to RGIII on the outside on that last rush.

browns/vikes is entertaining

doug martin just short on the 4th there but he seems to add 2-3 yards from the point of tackle every time

spikes <3

ooh cincy cheated on that holding call

arodg got popped

omg browns

jake locker is making plays with his feet

touchdown, washington pigskins!

the nation collectively asked

meriweather vs megatron

nope

kembrelllllll

KATIE!!

really good half for the patritos

yeah looking a lot better now that they had time to practice

what is happening with cleveland, why is the punter throwing?

lol brady

nice throw by cam to the back corner

wow this Browns game

tommy kelly is all over the place

how did brady even throw that

giants looking good

Paul Pierce ‏@paulpierce34 12m
Ny Giants or Alabama who u got

trolling new york when it's not even basketball season! never change, paul.

haha

bob griff

big play by the washington professional football team

lol @ garbage time revenge carries for blount

i don't really know the hows or whys of this but the titans are much feistier than expected

the cleveland browns!

browns punter just nailed the point after and no one would hi-5 him!

that's not winning football, cleveland

lol. incredible swings in that game.

way to go brian hoyer

and bengals over packers. good day for ohio.

yeah one team turns it over on four consecutive drives, the other muffs a punt to give the other team the ball from the 2 and then fumbles a 4th-and-inches and has it run back for a touchdown, guess one of them had to win

oh hey, curtis painter got a run out in giants' colours, 2/4 with an int

atl and sf looking kinda bad against afc teams

the NFL is crazy; the Colts couldn't contain Pryor and they have Kaepernick on lock.

TOUCHDOWN JAGS

Tarvaris in there already

Cmon Fins...

Bradshaw 80 yards on 14 carries
Trent Richardson 35 yards on 13 carries

nice TD spike by Luck, solid height

Luck with a naked bootleg for TD.

Ponder had two TD's today via draw.

49 ers wow, terrible

Go Fins, still rooting for them even with the logo travesty

Dolphins!

I am a total newbie when it comes to the NFL, started watching this year. I don't even know all positions yet. Isn't Kaepernick supposed to be real good?

come on CBS switch to the Bills game already

I am a total newbie when it comes to the NFL, started watching this year. I don't even know all positions yet. Isn't Kaepernick supposed to be real good?

― Van Horn Street, Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:11 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes the past two weeks have been shocking

sf played one guy who can catch the ball today and he's an old big slow guy

straight fire beautiful throw by geno smith

o christ Bills

ya real dope throw wow

There was some pretty big wins this week. Got to give props to Indy, as they played a heck of a game all around. Kept the penalties down, controlled the ball and didn't turn it over, that is a pretty good recipe for success. Their defense was tight.

Cincy is obviously talented and coming back to beat Green Bay was pretty impressive too. They cut down on some of the dumb mistakes and they are going to blow some clubs out, as they are pretty good at all points of the game.

Have they erected the Brian Hoyer statue yet?

Zach Miller with 2 catches for 5 yards and 2 TDs

t-jax making sure the seahawks cover

jesus there's 8 minutes left in this game

*to the tune of "versace"*

the dolphins the dolphins the dolphins

i have seen zero football today but just following the scores today seemed incomparably absurd

nothing is what it seems

i'm warming up to hines ward on tv mostly because of his accent

i hope everyone takes this opportunity to slam the brakes on the 49ers

*to the tune of "versace"*

the dolphins the dolphins the dolphins

actual lols here

brandon marshall is really attractive

some interesting results today, all of last year's nfc playoff teams lost and have a losing record after 3 except seattle who are as advertised and then some.

meanwhile, checking back in with the expected-to-be-terrible afc east: 9-3, 6-0 outside of division

yeah if I had to pick one team between the 49ers and Seahawks to have major issues this year it would'a been Seattle no question, this is pretty crazy
didn't see any of the Seattle game, (I had Jags +19, oh well) were they running up the score or were the Jags just playing that terribly?

the jags are that bad

i didn't see much of the game but i did see that, outside of a turnover they turned back over, the jags didn't take the ball into the seattle half all of the first half.

i'm honestly not sure why everyone was so rock solid on the niners, they got worse at the skill positions and taking kaepernick's limited track record as a sure thing going forward makes no sense.

bears, killing it

I like Mike Tomlin, but the Stillers are one of the league's worst teams this year. HA HA!

it is pure pleasure

Getting the sense that the NYT isn't too fond of Eli:

Manning, who Coughlin said “must have been hit 20 times,” stood straight and walked without any apparent injury afterward, but he looked wounded nonetheless. In his typically understated but rudimentarily perceptive way, he said, “Too many times we’re going backward instead of moving the ball forward.”

In another discerning comment, Manning added, “Words aren’t going to fix anything.”

looooool

HAHAHAHAHAHA suck it stillers

Major wright killing motherfuckers out there.

Steelers really suck

Mark Davis NOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUzc4kuCcAMuJKU.jpg

oh ffs SI.com. hey, what's wrong with this screenshot?

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5633/bdzy.jpg

if the raiders beat the broncos this would be my favorite week of football ever

scatter some entrails, make it happen matt

Spoke too soon. BAd week of pro for me. Steelers just had a 137 minute drive. Only 3but still

omg Cutler that was awesome

Badass play. Wish the o line was that tough. Great catch by Marshall

Cutler may be a douche but he's pretty tough. Bad rap a couple years ago

whoa interesting challenge here

That's a td

Feet were in

Wow!

Collinsworth is right. WR play for both teams is stellar tonight.

clock churning

Game set match.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/09/23/CutlerBigHit.gif

Cincy bengals will have a bye in the first round.

Great gif

#21 is gonna catch so much shit in films.

lol

man the patriots are def not one of the best 3-0 teams that just won by 20 points that ive ever seen

So where does San Francisco now stand with the past two really off games? Has the NFL figured out Harbaugh's offense and how to shut down Kaepernick?

Seattle would obviously be the best team in the NFL, let alone NFC at this point. Monday's outcome notwithstanding, I would probably put Denver as the most impressive AFC club on rep, how they looked and what they are going to get back as the season goes on.

KC and Miami's standing are much improved, but will they stay there. NE/Miami games should be interesting if nothing else. I still can't quite KC as a big challenger to Denver, but playing in Arrowhead things can happen.

The Chiefs are trying to Dilfer their way through the season but I'm not sure their defense/running game is that good. Definitely very good tho.

i'm honestly not sure why everyone was so rock solid on the niners, they got worse at the skill positions and taking kaepernick's limited track record as a sure thing going forward makes no sense.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

well they won 13 and 11 games in the last two years with appearances in the nfc title game and super bowl

they didn't really get that much worse at the skill positions... at worst boldin is a slight downgrade from crabtree and it's not like you could pin the last two losses on the niners losing mario manningham

the main offensive problem as i see it is that their line hasn't been great... before today gore couldn't run the ball at all and kaepernick has been running for his life all season. they've had one of the best lines in the since harbaugh got there so i'm not sure that was really foreseeable.

also their defense has not been good which... is also totally out of character. patrick willis is hurt, aldon smith and justin smith haven't been impact. i dunno.

two signals that maybe people should've picked up on: 1. SF hasn't done much to improve their secondary (though eric reid looked like a total baller until the suffered a massive concussion last week) and that has hurt them. but then again their secondary has always been a bit weak and they've been fine. 2. they whiffed totally on some high draft offensive draft picks, most notably aj jenkins and lamichael james. they certainly could use an impact WR or RB right about now.

but anyway i still think the niners will win at least 10 games

eew

http://deadspin.com/cardinals-s-rashad-johnson-lost-part-of-his-finger-in-y-1370749612

i cannot understand for the life of me what kind of play could literally sever the top part of someone's finger, nor can I understand how a person could go on playing without noticing that he lost part of a digit

can't link to it from here but apparently jacoby jones got bottled by a stripper on a party bus full of ravens players?

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/sweet-pea-smashed-a-bottle-on-jacoby-jones-head/

um

Never trust a stripper named Sweet Pea. I thought this was common knowledge.

i cannot understand for the life of me what kind of play could literally sever the top part of someone's finger, nor can I understand how a person could go on playing without noticing that he lost part of a digit

― frogbs, Monday, September 23, 2013 2:01 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

yanked off by a facemask? stepped on by a cleat?

well I dont see a cleat straight up severing part of someone's finger. but those guesses are as good as any!

http://deadspin.com/tmz-ravens-in-stripper-instigated-party-bus-brawl-1372030647

Just another chapter in the legend of Bryant McKinnie. He was part of the legendary Vikings Sex Cruise, during which he reportedly "[picked] up a naked woman, placed her on the bar in the lounge and commenced to perform oral sex on her"—a move immortalized by Fred Smoot as "runnin' through the okra patch." In 2008 he sparked a Miami nightclub brawl by spitting on a bouncer. Last year he was sued for $375,000 in unpaid strip club bills.

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Jordan Todman celebrating by 'shushing' the Seahawks crowd yesterday. His electric touchdown cut the lead to a mere 21.

those helmets are wild

i love em

I'm still back on "runnin' through the okra patch" tbh

xpost Great helmets - too bad they're wasted on the Jags. At the Buffalo Wild Wings last night, there was one lone Jags fan. He looked so lonely and forlorn; like his trip to that bar wasn't to watch the game, but just to see if he was truly alone in the world.

just took a closer look and i feel like they couldve done better w the two tone thing like instead of just fading black to gold the transition could be incorporated w the logo, like one line that has the logo in silhouette and also demarcates the colors

If I lived in Los Angeles, and the news broke that the Jags were moving to my city, I'd protest in the streets.

I mean I really kind of dug the Jaguars from the Garrard era, the almost-70s styled team that didn't play a flashy brand of football, but managed to win games in grind it out fashion, or even the Brunell era (ok except for one game), but yeah the product they're limping out there now....

they shd move them to l.a.

they should be contracted...along with the Rams

not the rams!

Wish I could find a gif of the whole final play of the Chargers game, w/ Chargers going full yaketysax on it, but <3 the finalizing frustrated kick from Rivers at the end of it.

http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/138848/original.gif

:: flag ::
:: flag ::

that's the best part

Pryor playing well. Absolutely horrible penalty on Rivera.

horrible call that is

indefensible: john gruden

has espn always mic'ed peyton this close? i can hear everything he says perfectly, meanwhile pryor is either running a silent count or they figure we don't want to hear him

Peyton's cadence has always been incredibly loud

Andrew Luck is amazingly loud too, how do these guys not blow out their voice?

no idea but i've never heard even peyton this clearly before

there is definitely a mic guy on the sidelines aiming straight for him before every snap

it's almost as blatant as nbc sunday night's count crush on tom brady

indefensible: john gruden

― zvookster, Monday, September 23, 2013 9:22 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

gruden's schtick has definitely expired with me, especially the hyperbole about whatever mediocre player happened to turn in a nice play that moment

he's almost bill waltonesque with it sometimes

they've been blanketing the media with peyty telling mile high to stfu during offense. it does seem quieter.

ok did anyone just see that quad box featuring a guy named "jim bob cooter"

my wife and i just paused on it and stared for like 5 minutes

Raiders run blocking has been really bad, their offense got a lot better when they gave up on it.

Pryor has been pretty great, I'm excited about him. Raiders D just has no chance vs. Peyton Kasparov.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BU5M9iwCcAMV3qg.jpg

The moment Tamme got back to his feet, his face said "fuck me, I didn't mean to block in the back!"
The moment the refs state the penalty, the crowd boos.

I hate crowds.

Terrelle Pryor has come a long long way

heard 'take back the night' in a bud light platinum commercial - good classy product to attach your brand to, jt

― 乒乓, Monday, September 23, 2013 6:18 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

classic LSU name

hey that's a real nice throw

i would like to point out that i was OTM from the jump on the pryor pick

indeed you were

I'm getting sick of their backhanded compliments for Pryor tonight, just admit he looks good

<3 raiders

thank god they're finally fun

oh they were very fun in the HueJax era

Lechler threw a touchdown, Hue did a photoshoot while getting a pedicure etc

This is the most Raiders fans could have realistically expected: dominant Broncos victory, but we have a QB

looks awesome in some "makes some shit up" time

Raiders just can't do anything up the middle ugh

they shd try raiding

need that new helmet guy, he has spikes

montee ball is moving around nicely out there

and promptly fumbles

<3<3<3 raiders you guys

"illegal forward pass"

omg matt flynn where did it all go wrong

"i like marcel reese" is not a that "that guy"

monte fumball amirite

2 minutes, how terrible can Matt Flynn make this ok not horrible loss

the spread was a push!

mcfadden 12 carries for 9 yards

oh they were very fun in the HueJax era

― Matt Armstrong, Monday, September 23, 2013 11:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

true

Damn Terrelle Pryor concussion, RIP Fun Raiders Era.

Matt Flynn is actually going to have to earn his paycheck now??

I just remembered...wasn't Kaepernick supposed to be down one eyebrow this week?

Nate Burleson broken arm for "trying to save a pizza box"?? smgdh. only the Lions

i stand with nate burleson