wtf is this i love metal nonsense

was there actually a groundswell of support for this?

i think pulling music threads out of ilm and making tons of metal subgenre threads are both lame. it's more to keep up on for those who are interested and will lead to lots of irritating crossposting.

i think the threads that exist there now should be moved to ilm and the board should be deleted.

^^^ agreed

rename it I Love Brostep pls

how the fuck did this happen?

first they came for the metalheads

^^^ was just thinking this

considering the hoops we had to jump to get ilf.....

no need to drag ILH into this now

Definitely against a separate metal board. There's no point unless we balkanise all genres in the same way, and then the whole board would fall apart due to niche market stultification.

imo its completely appropriate for there to be a separate board since METAL IS NOT MUSIC

why was this ok'd?

I'm guessing jjj thought it was a good idea, and he's a mod so made it happen? He's a good dude, but: noooooooooo.

niche market stultification.

― emil.y, Saturday, 19 March 2011 15:01 (5 minutes ago)

nultification, as it is technically known

more subboards imo, eliminate sna

http://grab.by/9z0P

luv the lil devil horns

wow I didn't know this happened.

y'know as a metalhead, I kinda think this is kinda lame. almost seems like something that if the goons did it, people would be ripping them for it. I mean, metal is music, right? It's not like I Love Everything where 'Everything' constitutes such a large number of things that you practically have to create smaller sub-boards to make it easier to follow.

idgi. are we going to have 'I love Dubstep' or 'I love chillwave' boards next week?

there will be two dubstep boards, actually

'I love dubstep'
'I like dubstep but I don't love it'
'If dubstep is on, i wont' turn it off'
'I dislike dubstep'
'I hate dubstep'

'I love dubstep but NOT the one you're thinking'

'i wish people would stop calling this stuff dubstep'

can't wait until i go in a coma for 5 years, then come back to find 1,234 subboards, 15 of them devoted to old Momus posts

anyone got any hot and sexy dubstep mixes???
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lol

Momus New Answers

in the future everyone will be famous for 15 ILX sub-boards

so much meta the earth tips on its axis

oh look we had this entire fuckin conversation last september

Rolling Metal Thread 2010

haha this is kewl i'm all for anything that keeps Algerian Goalkeeper off my site new answers tbh

That's rather uncalled for, isn't it?

the notion of "I love [genre]" boards is really stupid imo, I have no idea if somebody's actually proposing such a thing but on ILM phases come and go where this or that genre is "trending" or whatever

wait this was actually done? lol what a stupid idea

I'll continue posting any metal threads I start to ILM, fuck this shit with a pickaxe imo

people take a deep breath this is a testing only phase if peeps dont post to it it will vanish quietly into the night sheesh

lol sorry jjj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

is there a "hide board" option somewhere in preferences 'cause I wanna make sure I don't actually post to this board, because I really vociferously-yet-in-good-humor oppose this board

But the question isn't about whether people are interested in the types of thread - just because people might want a rolling doom thread doesn't mean they want or need a dedicated metal board. That's the only thing measuring number of posts will tell you, listening to people's opinions in places such as here will give you a better idea of how popular the board concept actually is.

take a deep breath.

xxp "Preferences" > "I Want to Change the Boards Shown on Site New Answers..."

is there a "hide board" option somewhere in preferences 'cause I wanna make sure I don't actually post to this board, because I really vociferously-yet-in-good-humor oppose this board

― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

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the thing is is that most of the metal board posters have already had this discussion and said "no, that's silly & there is no need to take our kind of music and separate it from the broader category of music," so it's a little "well, we're trying it anyway, never mind that we already had this discussion" to just go ahead and do it - and now, people have to go to extra lengths to not post to threads they might be interested in so as to avoid offering support to I Love Metal, which (and this is not! not!! OMG HOW HORRIBLE, I'm just discussing bcz this is a discussion borad OK) is kind of "in order to not have this thing you said you didn't want, you're going to have to stop using Site New Answers or go fix your prefs." Which to me it seems like the people who wanted the board had the opportunity to make their case, didn't, and went ahead and just put it in anyway.

It's not actually a big deal though let me be clear about that lest anybody say "you are makin a big deal!" ok!

might as well call it "poseur board 2k11"

i am kinda of the try it and see if it works mind wrt new boards, so this is pretty much my fault, so sorry for shaking shit up - there have been some peeps that have approached me about not feeling comfortable on the rolling thread because its super promo oriented and for the non-journos i can see where that would be kinda a high bar for contribution so i figured what the hell. this board is def not written in stone, and if i dont get on this thread to respond much today im not ignoring yall, i am at work.

yeah tbh I'm totally cool with it as long as it doesn't mean "if you start a metal thread on ILM it will be moved to I Love Metal" - if all the metal posters go "yeah, prefer new board" then I'm sure I can adjust tbh

open thread creation to all imo

open board creation to all imo, rather

also if peeps can point me to the discussion of this on the metal thread that would help because i was prev unaware of it tbh

lol metal

metal promos r serious business according to a friend of mine who writes abt metal & has access to label private torrent trackers & is so neurotic abt everything being watermarked & traceable to him -- u guys watch out

jjj my link to rolling metal 2010 20 posts ago has that discussion

i am kinda of the try it and see if it works mind wrt new boards, so this is pretty much my fault, so sorry for shaking shit up - there have been some peeps that have approached me about not feeling comfortable on the rolling thread because its super promo oriented and for the non-journos i can see where that would be kinda a high bar for contribution so i figured what the hell. this board is def not written in stone, and if i dont get on this thread to respond much today im not ignoring yall, i am at work.

― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:27 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

we talked about this then, i just fail to see why ppl don't start new threads about specific bands or whatever if they don't want to double back to something on the rolling thread

Yeah, I totally get the appeal of rolling threads but they shouldn't exist to the exclusion of threads about specific bands/records.

Also, it may well be just me, but I actively prefer being a bit 'damn, there are too many threads on subject x' to removing all trace of subject x from a generalist music board. I enjoyed the metal poll, I occasionally pop in to other trü kvlt threads to have a look at what you're talking about, but quite frequently I ignore metal threads. So how is a separate board going to help me? I'm not going to shut it off, nor am I going to be encouraged to participate. I'll just see even more metal threads appearing. Which you could do as part of a wider community instead of being all sectarian. But, you know, if (for example) goons are pissed off about threads on music they don't like appearing on ILM, they should move somewhere that is a specialist board. And in return, if metallers are gonna whinge about goon threads being all over the place, they shouldn't form a hostile annexe, but just bugger off completely.

where is i love dadrock

i love late 80's college rock with chick singers

I Love Songs with a fast dancey/electroish 4/4 beat with someone talking over it (but not really rapping)

I Love Gay Dad

i love all those ministry side projects where they used different vocalists

i love mix tapes

mixed tapes

and to think of all the hoops i had to jump through to get an 'i love footy' board

or was that 'i love hoops'

xp - and we are all very appreciative of your efforts.

you're all too old for the internet

a bunch of olds with back pains

can we have an i love being old sub-board?

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=207147393

open board creation to all imo, rather

we used to have that, and yea, those were the days of glory, when men could take up irons and forge boards by the sweat of their brows -- and yea, in those days when titans strode the earth, one such titan did arise and create the board "Chairman Meow: Best Cat Name?"

morbs and aimless should have a talk show

would watch

I don't love much but I do love cats

post cat names itt

xp - that's not the same! I love being old would cover such topics as how expensive everything is now, things they don't make like they used to, and those kids who won't get off my lawn!

I Love Tacos (pls make this happen)

cat names itt

flaffums

chet

planet of the apes

jennifer

pussiden

bag of weed

how about for people we dig IRL, "I love Trina Handsaker" for example

Captain Sniff

inner ear

Purricles

the simpsons

No, you don't understand, "I \m/ Metal" is the name of my cat.

I love Trina Handsaker isn't a very good name for a cat

bed

potbelly

Benjamin Disraeli

haha this is kewl i'm all for anything that keeps Algerian Goalkeeper off my site new answers tbh

― I'm totally kidding. Congrats strangers. (Matt P), Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:59 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

em, when you greet your cat do you raise its front legs over its head to create that "\m/" shape?

googleproof

Raphael Michalangelo Leonardo Donatello Williams

HA, I will totally do that to every cat I meet from now on.

xpost

c@t

I do have a habit of calling every cat Leonid Pushkin. Not a suggestion for a specific name, just a general term of endearment.

guano

chapeau

joanna mewsom

Nicholas If-Jesus-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barbon

james catfield

^^ take it to the Church, corey!

hadji

keta

I love Trina Handsaker isn't a very good name for a cat

I Love Trina Handsaker is a very sweet cat who deserves better than this from you

whis-krs 1

Right Here, Right Meow

blackitty

metal

~I'm out~

it's just a cat name on a message board to me, like, it isn't a real cat, you know?

Flea

Wrinklepaws

Victorious Eater of Cat Food

Paws In Effect

Abyssinian Goalkeeper

EyeHateDog

Lol bnw

Himalayan G. Nebelung

Change (in the House of Fleas)
Fulciwasoverrated
Ace of Spays

Chicken

l0u1s jagg3r

its been done

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5vnz7FjpZ1qz7yq2.jpg

we are all l0u1s jagg3r

it was gray, and my mom's favorite -- it ran away about a year ago.

lol

"\m/" is bad as it actually denotes the hang loose gesture

it is also played out

|m| on the other hand

|-o-|

tie fighter or lol?

\-o-\

/-o-/

hoooooooooooooooo heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ic otm

|-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

watch it, because Vader's on the case, and he's more metal than anybody (mostly due to having artificial legs and arms which are made of metal, but w'evs)

EyeHateDog

― bnw, Saturday, 19 March 2011 19:07 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

causing this post has actually validated the terrible metal board

crossposted from metal board thread:

alright i have better fucking things to do today but since people cant just chill out

i am going to get rid of this board - but before i do i want to make a couple things clear.

this was not just one persons idea, there were several supporters, both recently and before. i myself couldnt give 2 flying fucks about whther it exists or not, but didnt see any problem in trying it out. im pretty much getting rid of it because A) some of you have had decent reasonable responses of why you dont like the idea and i think theyre fairly compelling B) the ensuing shit storm has contributed to a lot of incredibly out of line personal flaming and abuse which isnt worth extenuating C) i dont have time to watch this clusterfuck roll on out of control and supervise all the bullshit that should have been deleted already obviously.

i think the way some of you have acted regarding this (def not the majority) is pretty shameful and childish tbh, and it reminds me why i spend as little time on ilm as i do, and prob is a good reason for me to stay off it entirely. you are on a messageboard full of people, you dont automatically get to have everything your way, you also dont get to keep other people from having things the way they might prefer, and i dont give a shit where you percieve yer status/longevity/whatever. again thanks to the peeps that made specific efforts to disagree with the board but kept things civil.

ill crosspost this to the imp thread as well, and if people want to continue the discussion thats fine. i am not going to nuke the board immediately because i have to figure out what to do with the threads - if any threadstarters object to having them moved to ILM, let me know. or if you prefer to have them locked and kept here or deleted or whatever.

― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:18 PM (1 minute ago)

still want a goon board

too fucking bad

thats not very nice

well neither are you so

i'm pretty awesome tbh

my posts in this thread are "tough love."

too fucking swag

hey john if you guys are gonna delete the metal board can you at least have a "hide metal threads" option in preferences, cuz i liked that whole aspect of this enterprise

if you consider that 'love', then you must consider this a 'hug':

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/Damien_5280/Wrestling/Bearhugs/assdd.jpg

i can't think of a better candidate than the goon crew for having their own board.

it's all pretty irrelevant in the SNA era but i basically hate metal

I haven't been following this but

alright i have better fucking things to do today but since people cant just chill out

followed by a three-paragraph diatribe filled with profanity, touching on paranoia, apathy and my running favorite, ILXors acting like children in the eyes of the moderator just doesn't seem very, um, chill to me.

ffs you all got what you wanted stop moaning

the board is to be deleted. ilx should go back to normal and everyone should forget all of this. Its done & dusted.

and matt p and j0rdan s will just have to put up with me on ilm

or go here KILLFILE 2.0

dude putting up with criticism is part of being a regular msg board poster. deal with it.

also pp otm. mods should have realized granting a request like this was bad judgement. sucks that it took the nuclear whiney option to spell that out

oh i can deal with it fine. water off a ducks back, but i dont like to see others piling on people for no reason.

i only know AG from footy threads, the abuse he seems to pick up from ilm posters baffles me. Same with ilxor, who i only rly spot on running threads.

Ilm sucks, tbh. Delete that too, it makes good posters act like total cocks.

there are plenty of non-dick-behavior-inducing threads on ilm.

not enough for a spin-off board

ILM used to be far less dickish than ILE but it has kinda swapped over lately. But it cant stay 2001 forever.

lol my sentiments exactly

maybe calum will come back

yngwie j malmsteen in a banana suit threads need to happen

not sure if this is appropriate for this thread but i was abt to post this in one of the other ones before it was locked.

feel ilx needs a new subboard with new life & flair, i v much <3 1p3 & noize but feel like their legacies loom heavy & are pretty well established

we should poll destroy site new answers i would vote to destroy it. it's irresistible to me but i hate it. think subboards are basically meaningless in a site new answers universe, tho people who use sna should be most irritated abt i \m/ metal clogging it up with unnecessary rolling metal subgenre threads. some ppl have no restraint. also i think stuff like moving that ghost thread from ilm to quarantine metal ghetto is so stupid & just doing the opposite of turning ppl onto cool music--i barely listen to any metal & i fucking love that album. i realize having an enormous ilm rolling thread that moves really fast & consumes itself is not accessible either but u know

tho people who use sna should be most irritated abt i \m/ metal clogging it up with unnecessary rolling metal subgenre threads. some ppl have no restraint.

well no bcuz you can hide all threads from a certain board, but not specific threads themselves

re: original request--

thanks john/mods, sorry this was such a fuckshow

feel ilx needs a new subboard with new life & flair, i v much <3 1p3 & noize but feel like their legacies loom heavy & are pretty well established

hi have you heard of I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX

forget it, max. its chinatown.

it's irresistible to me but i hate it.

this is exactly how i feel about sna

the abuse he seems to pick up from ilm posters baffles me. Same with ilxor, who i only rly spot on running threads.

i think its spelled "ruining"

praise from caesar tbf

lol "i don't read ilm so it is utterly baffling to me why these ppl have issues on ilm"

fair point!

i love sna, i'd miss out on like 50% of good ilx threads if it wasn't there

oh yeah, sna is great.

having to do the work and find good threads on intimidating and cliquish sub boards makes them all the more enjoyable once you find them

yea screw these 'spoonfeeding' message boards. back in the day I used to post to a BBS message board where in order to merely read a message, you had to solve complex riddles and dig up old 19th century documentation.

I haven't been following this but

alright i have better fucking things to do today but since people cant just chill out

followed by a three-paragraph diatribe filled with profanity, touching on paranoia, apathy and my running favorite, ILXors acting like children in the eyes of the moderator just doesn't seem very, um, chill to me.

― http://tinyurl.com/vroooo0ooooom (Pleasant Plains), Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:00 PM (Yesterday)

yeah well thats because i was anything but chill at that moment because i am less than 2 months from getting married and honestly dont even have the time for normal ilx modding at this point but i had to end up late for a dance lesson w/the mother and father of the bride because it was obvious that certain people were going to continue to escalate and escalate the discussion until i or some other mod weighed in. so yeah it was hardly political and chill, but i never claimed i was going to be chill and frankly i think a bunch of you dudes were being unimaginable assholes about the whole thing. i still get to be a poster on the board despite being a mod btw, and as such when several posters go out of their way to make a thread a totally hostile environment, im going to go ahead and tell them to go fuck themselves, whether im a mod or not. if you dont like that, too bad.

lol, bravo & <3

tho obvs u r still a terrible mod & awful person ok

personally I'm ok with profanity on ilx

Can I just meekly say that jjj if you're this busy and stressed out (and fuck, rightly so! No issue there) that maybe making big mod decisions like this is a Bad Idea right now and really, I think most people saying "hey what the heck did this happen for?" is a perfectly legit question and not deserving of torrents of "YOU UNGRATEFUL FUXX" abuse but I duno thats just me and I will shoosh again now sorry bye.

well some ppl were being complete dicks---jjj i think u handled this fine despite your busyness/stress/whatev.

that said, if you're going to continue to say things like "i don't even have time for normal ilx modding" then maybe it's time to get some help since you're one of like two mods who will engage the filthy masses on a clusterfuck level.

also i think stuff like moving that ghost thread from ilm to quarantine metal ghetto

it was never moved. It was always on ilm, the admin log thing was a glitch.

engaging the filthy masses on a clusterfuck level sounds really gross

wait don't you go to metal shows

hahaha it sounds as gross as that!!

trayce - 2 things

1. i didnt actually think this was in any way a "big mod decision" when i did it.
2. at no point did i get into any ungrateful fuxx nonsense, if you read the other thread (the locked one on the now defunct metal board) and dont see why i said some people were being jerks i dont even know how to start tbh

1. i didnt actually think this was in any way a "big mod decision" when i did it.

TBH this is the only thing I have any issue with, I got zero beef with you or yr modding generally fwiw :)

Also not at all sayin i think no one was being jerky, but eh *shrug*/

engaging the filthy masses on a clusterfuck level sounds really gross

― ☠ (roxymuzak), Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:39 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thanks, i was a little proud of that turn of phrase

trayce otm

jjj: take a cue from yr buddy DJP and resign angrily, "let the terrorists win" and go enjoy your life, marriage, and freedom to engage in clusterfucks as a free agent!!!!!!

#protip the terrorists always win anyway

i guess someone could explain to me why there are so many rolling metal threads -- i feel like it defeats the purpose of a rolling thread

dude if you cant understand the value of rolling neo-martial-folk-core-whatever then i dont even know maybe go to live journal or w/e

eh there may or may not be a desire to have specialized subgenre threads--rolling metal went close to 5k posts last year--there is a feeling that maybe more obscure releases could get some time in a subgenre thread.

there is going to be a prob w/stuff getting crossposted but whatev, i guess

oh

yeah i dunno, it's a reasonable compromise from the subboard thing--i know you guys would not give a rats ass about a metal subboard but you're not really the "target audience" so

seems stupid to me -- fruity swag was at 5500 posts last year & everything is cool in one thread, but hey

yeah i feel you--it would not be my pref but i'm fine w/giving it a try--not like ilm is being used for all this other great stuff.

uh oh rap/metal fight

gonna start ever more obscure football chant threads on ilm just to see

not like ilm is being used for all this other great stuff.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:44 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who will be rick rubin and defuse the rap metal fight

rick rollins

i'm not making a value judgment on who boards better (okay maybe i am) -- i guess i'm just saying that it would seem pointless & confusing if we had "rolling ny rap thread", "rolling southern rap thread", "rolling cali rap thread", "rolling texas rap thread" etc

also prob annoying to everybody else

right because rap and metal match up on a one-to-one level exactly

i'm not making a one-to-one comparison

i would gently suggest that subgenres work differently in metal and there's a lot more disparity.

idk how unified the metal posters are but the goon crew is like the same 10 ppl, all the time, so that's why it doesn't make sense to have separate rolling rap threads

rolling slap bass thread, rolling random metal group w/a dj thread

i think you could argue it either way and regardless my point is that it seems counter to the notion of a rolling thread, and that is inarguable

also would u take anyone seriously who liked ny and texas rap but not southern and cali rap? that kind of thing doesn't seem like it would really happen in rap unless there was some head who was just super deep into one region.

xp yes i agree w/that

rolling frat rap thread

maybe it would help if you thought of the rolling metal subgenre threads as their equivalent to the rolling lil b/rolling gucci mane threads

has anyone told the people who post to rolling metal that metal sucks

feel like it might clear up some of this

jjj: take a cue from yr buddy DJP and resign angrily, "let the terrorists win" and go enjoy your life, marriage, and freedom to engage in clusterfucks as a free agent!!!!!!

― gr8080, Monday, March 21, 2011 3:24 AM (33 minutes ago)

yeah but see like i said upthread there i didnt abdicate or sign away my "dude who posts on ilx however he wants" rights when i agreed to be a mod so i can actually clusterfuck as much as want imo, so i dont really need to do any resigning to say whatever.

also thats my groomsman DJP thank you very much.

also people saying "hey metal dudes if you have a rolling thread you dont need any other threads" is uh totally ridic

maybe it would help if you thought of the rolling metal subgenre threads as their equivalent to the rolling lil b/rolling gucci mane threads

― dayo, Sunday, March 20, 2011 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

gucci mane isn't a sub genre

news to me

if you would prefer every metal band and album should just get it's own thread you should really say so

feel that claiming there should be only one rolling metal thread makes about as much sense as saying there should only be one rolling rock thread

mmmm, rolling rock

i if you would prefer every metal band and album should just get it's own thread you should really say so

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:03 AM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i would prefer this

actually i would prefer it if there were a whole separate board for metal

lets give it a fun name too

feel that claiming there should be only one rolling metal thread makes about as much sense as saying there should only be one rolling rock thread

― dayo, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:04 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark

eh i'm not saying this at all

i would gently suggest that subgenres work differently in metal and there's a lot more disparity.

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/thats-racist.gif

I know jordan didn't campaign about deleting the metal board, so this isn't aimed at him at all, but the rest of you who did campaign to delete the metal board really shouldn't be complaining if there's more metal (or any type of music) threads now on ILM.

i if you would prefer every metal band and album should just get it's own thread you should really say so

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:03 AM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well you see, if you did this, the threads wouldn't stick to the top of the board because all the posting would be incredibly fractured & the threads wouldn't gather enough posts to stay that omnipresent (i.e. bee ok making a separate thread for 50 diff pitchfork indie albums, each thread getting 8 posts, and those threads falling off new answers w/in a day)

i campaigned to keep the metal board so i could hide all the threads

the real culprit here is SNA, destroy SNA

your pain must be terrible i sympathize w/u and ur family xpost

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this is just dumb i.e. a perfect reason for a metal board

john, you know that someone who moderates a message board isn't really in the position to go "lol you care about things that happen on a message board" right?

htf is sna a problem for ppl idgi

in the old days of ilx when i first posted (2001?) threads had categories and sinkah was in charge of that. But i dont think anyone would volunteer now for it, but if it did exist, then i guess you could have hidden specific types BUT most of those campaigning against sub-boards did so because they wanted all music on one board so people could see every thread.

j0rdan there's only 5 metal threads there. surely thats no big deal?

As a metal fan, I know that yes there's lots of subgenres and they don't exactly line up with rap

As an ILX user I know that diarrheaing up the front page with a hair-splitting contest looks terrible and is useful to no one. The metal thread was fine ffs

j0rdan there's only 5 metal threads there. surely thats no big deal?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:12 AM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark

theoretically no -- but if they're constantly at the top of new answers then it would seem to indicate to me that all the discussion could either be condensed into one thread or into one board

As maybe one of the only goon/metal dudes on ilx I'm gonna have to side firmly with team goon that this is totally useless and only serves to make more .xls metal posting on ilx even more excruciating

it moved too fast and stuff got lost. You start loads of threads whiney so i dont see why it bothers you. Noone is saying all hip hop threads should remain in one thread. You would hate that (and rightly so)

xps

haha jordan sorry you might sprain yer scrolling finger getting past 5-10 metal threads i should def be more sensitive as a mod.

goons, what do you think of san te always starting new rap threads

How come when me or jon Williams try to ruin ilx we get banned, but when Algerian Goalkeeper does it, the mods think it's cuet

Let me start 12 polls about it, that should help

wow dude

haha jordan sorry you might sprain yer scrolling finger getting past 5-10 metal threads i should def be more sensitive as a mod.

― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Monday, March 21, 2011 12:14 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

the funny thing about this is that i thought i had fucked up my right index finger, went & got x rays on it and was told that i had "trackpad finger", so i'm v sensitive to your post

if noone wants a separate metal board then all metal threads are done on ILM. it's as simple as that. If you dont like them dont read them. Noone is going around telling goons to stop making threads. ILM is supposed to be for everyone as was made clear by people who were against a sub-board which included those who do like metal and those who dont.

xp

i tried to ruin ilx? haha get real. I was not the person who set out to ruin a sub-board.

Whiney otm tho

goons, what do you think of san te always starting new rap threads

― dayo, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:15 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

it depends -- when he starts threads about non-current rap i don't have a problem w/ it, but otherwise i think it's stupid

one of the less irritatingly excessive aspects of his posting style

srs question - why does what you think matter at all about how other people start threads tho? xpost

whiney - wasn't it this time last year when we were complaining about a buttload of crappy bracket polls

It's not that ilx hates metal it's that it hates shitty threads. Youre like trying to fuck kids at a birthday party and going "why do you hate clowns?"

i'm not saying it does, which is why i don't go around complaining about threads any more than the average high-volume ilx poster

Xpost lol yes. whiney g, ilx neat freak! :)

after lining up the stuffed animals in order by size?

fwiw i really hate it when people start a lot of stupid threads

Lol remember "ilx listening club" that was fun for a week

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so whiney you want only 1 rolling metal thread and no other metal threads on ilm everything to stay on it?

I dont understand this "things get lost" assertion some people have - we do have a perfectly functional search function!

eg the other day I was into some Meshuggah jams so I looked up a random mesguggah thread, revived it, and it stayed up a day or 2. If I'd had to trawl thru a single metal thread of 7565453453453 posts I would not have bothered.

like you always seem to have a problem with a large number of the same kind of "stupid" thread: bracket polls, autechre threads, the beatles and radiohead polls ...oh yeah and the listening clubs.

DONT MAKE THIS ABOUT ME

are rolling metal threads more ubiquitous than the beatles?

you know what i hate? self-indulgent threads about book deals always shitting up my sna, those guys are the worst

oh whoops xpost

people who worry about there not being enough quality threads obviously haven't been to I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX

come on whiney you want only 1 rolling metal thread and no other metal threads on ilm everything to stay on it?

honestly, can't we look on the bright side and appreciate the fact there aren't tons of bracket polls anymore?

There's two threads, you dumb dipshit. WHOOPS

granted i'm ignorant of metal, but i guess my point is that it seems to me that the 41 combined posts in 'rolling power metal' and 'rolling black metal' could easily be folded into the already existing 'rolling metal thread'

idk people who are interested in power metal prob dont want to interact w ppl who are interested in black metal

goons are more open to cross-pollination #thatsracist

AG, i want many many many metal threads, as I love metal. But having six rolling threads is overkill, come on

or do you just like telling people what threads are ok with you and those that aren't? Whiney G Weingarten Superthreadcop
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Tfvco6GYpBw/0.jpg

like if we already had a 'rolling cereal thread', but then had a 'rolling fruit loops thread' and a 'rolling cheerios thread' and a 'rolling frosted flakes thread' and a 'rolling apple jacks thread' and a 'rolling corn pops thread' i think most ppl would go "i think this cereal discussion could be condensed'

why

c'mon Whiney -- don't compete with gr80 for captain of ilx thread police

fuck ppl who like fruit loops imo

Hahaha it's just silly! Goon is like the same 20 ppl, rolling metal is the same 20 ppl. Why chop them up?

like who gives a shit, are we running low on server space or something? this whole thing is so bizarre to me multixpoast

why are there sub boards in the first place?

why did you create a sub board two days ago?

the sub-genre rolling threads are there to stop threads being made on every metal band ever. I would have thought half a dozen rolling threads would be better than that. there is a problem with the rolling metal thread, everything gets lost in it.
Trayce might be in favour of having a thread on every band or album but im pretty sure noone else does.

have you considered that if your goon threads weren't just these huge cluttered threads that maybe more people would post on them? Like it kinda seems that the way your threads are set up, they're set up to be a bit insular?

why have ilm posters by and large in the last 5 years or so chosen to start rolling threads every year?

also uh you dudes realize that (ok not j0rdan) this is kinda a counter-argument to getting rid of the metal board right? or do you just like complaining for no reason

goons like being insular, no wai!

in terms of cultivating participation in threads, using the goon threads as a comparison is kinda ridiculous.

i don't even see why this is important, bu i'll address it anyway -- the idea that the rolling rap thread is insular is bullshit. there is a small community of consistent posters because a small amount of ilxors follow rap really closely -- there have been various posters of the past few years (zvookster, tpp, flopson, spottie_ottie etc to name a few) that have just shown up out of the blue and started posting in the thread -- it's incredibly easy to follow, there's probably 10-15 posts a day on average

sarahel, noted goon thread expert

Trayce might be in favour of having a thread on every band or album but im pretty sure noone else does.

Dude there's plenty of individual threads on various pop, electronic, new wave and indie bands and even individual albums (and tours!). Isnt that the point of "I Love Music"?

goon thred is a nice model imo, i think of it as main artery or water cooler of rap discussion on ilx. for generalist bullshitting & youtubes not fit for preexisting threads

u make a thread on the band/album if u think it'll take off or if it feels like it's getting big or if u want to spread exposure. like WAKA or ODD FUTURE WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL or lil b: the based god last year. some ppl have no restraint

i want to be clear & say that i'm not advocating for ilm to be made up of 8 threads rolling threads a year -- just the notion of 8 rolling threads a year for one genre seems paradoxical & superfluous, also clogs new answers which personally bothers me

or we keep it to its own subgenre thread. which i think is better. If jordan has a problem with 5 metal threads on ILM, dont you think him & others would object to dozens of metal threads created every day?

btw, the gonns have already subconsciously rejected this model -- SLAPS---> nu-bay post-hyphy post-jerk <---SLAPS

whiney started a thread in 'rolling black ice metal' vein but no one bothered w/ it

i kinda want to move the (now locked) "delete this board now" thread to imp just to make it clear that a bunch of people are playing both sides of the field, and also to make my reposted thing up there make a lot more sense in context, because most of the egregious bullshit im talking about happened in that thread

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i know jordan was happy to have a metal sub-board, but the rest of you didn't want it. So now you just have to deal with a few extra rolling metal sub-genre threads

Black Ice was a good band, imo

If jordan has a problem with 5 metal threads on ILM, dont you think him & others would object to dozens of metal threads created every day?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, March 21, 2011 12:40 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

like i already explained -- i would have no problem w/ this because these threads would fall off the top of new answers pretty quickly because they'd have like 5-10 posts each (this is how the board is designed to work) -- and if they didn't fall off new answers and there were 50 metal threads w/ 50 posts each at the top of new answers, i think it would be time for a sub board

john i think this thread should be on ILE so everyone who campaigned against the metal board can see this

does anyone have a real problem?

btw, the gonns have already subconsciously rejected this model -- SLAPS---> nu-bay post-hyphy post-jerk <---SLAPS

― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Monday, March 21, 2011 12:40 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is why idg why we are arguing about this. just like that, if ppl support the current model of rolling subgenre threads then those threads will stay alive. if not, they fall off SNA and die. #WHOGIVESASHIT

dayo you're in this thread arguing, you can't pull the #WHOGIVESASHIT card, sorry

I just wanna clusterfuck too

i remember the wonderful distant past where i made a shocking out of control powermad mod decision and started "I Love Vinyl" out of the blue and everyone became incensed and furious about my abuse of power

xpost why does WGW have that copyrighted or something?

is whiney just whining because he cant get the secret invite only goon board he didn't actually really want but was just trying to make a drama out of it all?

I may have missed something that kicked all this off and I'd like to know what it was but:

If jordan has a problem with 5 metal threads on ILM, dont you think him & others would object to dozens of metal threads created every day?

- would this really ever happen? Seriously? Dozens of metal threads started anew every single day? Who would ever do this with any genre?

well if posts on a rolling metal thread is enough to keep them top of new answers then individual threads on the bands/albums are bound to happen if rolling threads are banned just because they are for metal.

Roxy is posting on the rolling bm exclusively because the chat on the big rolling thread doesnt interest her. The other subgenre threads have that with other people.

Why should we not be allowed to have these threads if we want them?

i'm not saying that you guys should not be allowed to have what you want -- notice i haven't asked john to delete the threads or w/e -- personally i was just questioning the necessity of the various sub-genre threads

(also empirically & generally speaking not all sub-communities of posters get to have what they wa because the general community is much larger than a group of 30 or so ppl)

you do realise that there are hundreds of sub-genres in a genre that is still evolving after 40 years. Not everyone likes every genre Some people hate other genres. Some only want to talk about 1 or 2 or whatever of these genres. some like more mainstream stuff some like to talk about black metal bands who release tapes ltd to 200 copies. It's a big big world in metal.
you cant contain it all in one thread. Any why should metal fans on ilx be forced to stay in one rolling thread?
xp

that response is to trayce

i know jordan, and i appreciate you being level-headed on this. But noone wanted the metal board so they have to deal with more metal threads on ilm. I know you were happy with a subboard which made it easier for you to avoid, but 99% of ilx was against it. Metal fans & non metal fans. That is why it was deleted.
As a result it just means there are more metal related threads on ILM. Maybe keith can come up with a way to hide certain genres , i dont know. But i get the feeling the same people who wanted to keep ILM together will be against that too and against whineys goon board.

personally i was just questioning the necessity of the various sub-genre threads

I'll repost the bit on the metal board that got deleted that (tried) to explain why some people find the main metal thread too unwieldy. Im not very good at explaining things, so perhaps someone will come along later to try to explain better.

This thread is quite promo based and fast moving at times. This causes a problem for some (not all). Part of the reason some wanted a new board. So i'd like to offer a compromise.

I would like to keep the rolling industro thread plz.

― Threadkiller General (Viceroy), Sunday, 20 March 2011 21:26 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i still say the rolling threads should exist so stuff doesnt get lost in the rolling thread. its pretty hard to discuss stuff when it was discussed by a select few 300 posts & promos ago.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 March 2011 21:28 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

worth keeping rolling sub-genre threads too, I should think. The Rolling thread moves too fast some times, good to have some space to talk about genre records without the constant churn of the main thread.

xp

― Neil S, Sunday, 20 March 2011 21:29 (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i understand those with promos dont get that some find it a bit off-putting but maybe they could try to understand those who do.

since this thread is discussing what should or shouldn't happen on ILM, shouldn't this thread be on ILM so everyone can take part?

is there really anything more to say about this?

plenty of people will be arriving at work in a few hours, not having been on ilx since 5.30 friday. they wont have seen this. if whiney and co want to limit subject choices of threads and how often people should post on certain subjects then perhaps they should be allowed their say too? After all, everyone got to say to delete the metal sub-board.

o_0

excuse me but

gucci mane isn't a sub genre

― blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Monday, March 21, 2011 4:02 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

posts v much out of character imo

hahahah

lil b is a sub genre

algerian goalkeeper you are teaching a master class in passive-aggressiveness, it is beautiful and amazing to me

max you don't even know what you're complaining about, you're just complaining about anything for the sake of it.

no one should miss this awesome metal showdown.

well yeah that is kinda the max steez tbh

Sorry but max kind of has a point, AG you keep pressing this manufactured point that everyone in thew whole world hates metal and it should STFU and get its own board, because otherwise how would we ever cope with the apparent 65465445 new threads a day that apparently people are itching to create and I dont even know what this is about anymore my brain hurts.

I mean is that what the argument is? Cos I cant make sense of any of this.

Its all gone off the rails.... on a crazy train.

what complaining!! i havent complained once in this thread!!

i am marveling at algerian goalkeepers amazing performance here

trayce the metal board is already dead, i think that AG is arguing that its weird that people have followed this up by preemptively complaining about the possibility that there might be multiple metal threads on ILM, which i also find completely bizarre

max i know you have this hilarious ilx persona where you pretend to give a shit about stuff you dont give a shit about but ehhhh

max wrote this on thread wtf is this i love metal nonsense on board I Love Music on 21-Mar-2011

my back hurts

max wrote this on thread wtf is this i love metal nonsense on board I Love Music on 21-Mar-2011

i give a shit about this metal subboard

... ;-)

i think that AG is arguing that its weird that people have followed this up by preemptively complaining about the possibility that there might be multiple metal threads on ILM, which i also find completely bizarre

EXACTLY yes this is what I wasnt getting, I'm like "where is that perception coming from?" I thought I was going mad.

Tho wait no, what I am reading is AG is the one saying people are doing this but I only see him saying that!?

Oh I give up.

flopson!!!!

trayce a bunch of people said that upthread - i dont get it either

btw i am a prophet those max posts i quoted r from the future weve got a good team working on patching up the rift in the time space continuum you will remember none of this by morning

can we delete the i love vinyl board now

it's only fair.

hahaha

milquetoast metal

skipped a lot of msgs here but basically if u dont listen to metal or w/e how could this possibly affect u, also probably stfu about it? the rolling metal thread really isnt the same as autogoon etc, ie 7 dudes talking about w/e its like 700 guys posting about what promo cds they got and it sucked, it needed to be split, dont really see HOW PEOPLE ARE POSSIBLY AFFECTED AT ALL by threads that they do not read? something i've enevr understood about ilx, but then again i don't look at ILM or SNA all day, i just look at whatever threads i like

like wtf is wrong with yall that dont do this

"i fuckin hate all these threads about x" < this has never been a problem i have ever had

otoh - i think one of the bracket food poll threads led to me learning about the popularity of organic farming in Minnesota, so i shouldn't be hating on bracket polls that much.

oh ha i just was trying to figure out what thread that was!

I wish the poll function had never been invented :(

i think it involved berries, and i was trying to find a logical explanation for why you hated something as awesome as berries.

well duh they are fruit and therefore terrible

god didnt create vitamin supplements so you assholes could all deny his glory and eat fruits and vegetables ffs

anyway, that information came in useful at a later date when i was chatting up a cute midwestern boy from some touring band.

btw i fuckin hate the metal polls

but i ignore them iirc

you don't remember if you ignore them?

lol

just sometimes she needs to be reminded to ignore them

obviously by stating that i ignore them i am aware that i ignore them

ty sarahel APU

my solution to the rolling-every-subgenre thread is: I'll post to rolling metal. if there's a band that warrants its own thread, I'll post to that or start it. if some subgenre thread has some sort of special reason to be blowing up (like if Gorgoroth made another masterpiece like Ad Majorem I can see the black metal thread getting pretty lit up) then I can imagine posting to it but otherwise I don't see the point, it seems like trainspotting to me and I am not into that shit. I don't vigorously oppose subgenre threads but I do think they're pointless, rolling metal is fun & has flow whereas separate-bin-for-everything just does not interest me in the slightest. this is the internet and it's 2011, "things move fast" is actually OK by me

Dude I'm actually super-psyched about space-metal

whiney as someone who starts so many threads about yourself it seems weird that you would object to people starting threads about actual things

or maybe not weird idk

how hard would it be to code a ignore-thread function into ILX? seems like it'd be pretty easy to modify the bookmark code

I mean, so that j0rdan can stop getting trackpaditis

oh god, you didn't....

you just suggested coding a feature

relax should take five mins

lol cad

I still remember when forks said he was gonna disable sb for a few days

you'd all better hope he did it in the last few days

how many times can u post "wow, i cant wait to hear that in a month when it comes out!!!" and still consider it actual participation in a thread

^^^ Useful participation in the thread.

Anyway it's gone now so this is done with.