would be good to try and get more midfielders out there, our 1 strong suit
― con suelo, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Ives had a 4-3-2-1 xmas tree posted with Jones, Bradley, and Edu as the 3... just call that one "the bone-cruncher"
― dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
btw Bradley on the late run to goal is one of my favorite sights to see w/ these guys
hi dere welcome to our world
yeah
also cosign on the potential of that game
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 1 October 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
just learned Lichaj's from Chicago and his parents are Polish immigrants
― dan m, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
wish he would grow his hair back outhttp://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/unc/sports/m-soccer/auto_headshot/573906.jpeg
― mizzell, Friday, 1 October 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
report on Charlie Davies' comeback and some o_O scar pics
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5655430/soccer-us-forward-charlie-davies-talks-recovery-espn-magazine
― dan m, Thursday, 7 October 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
lineup4-5-1 w/ edu at centerback huh
Howard; Cherundolo, Onyewu, Edu, Bocanegra; Jones, Bradley, Holden, Dempsey, Feilhaber; Altidore.
i'll be curious to see how high dempsey plays. and gooch is really ready for this, is he? wanna see lichaj at some point
― avinha, Saturday, 9 October 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Does anyone else think the US goal was offside? I'm heavily medicated with Nyquil and my eyes are burning but F thought it was.
― I've got ten bucks. SURPRISE ME. (Laurel), Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
from that camera angle it sure seemed so.
― avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link
gooch is driving me crazy, booting it out of the back
― avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
bedoya for feilhaber, is that all we've got as far as possible forward-looking changes?
^wrote at halftime but could have said it later tbh
huh. jones looked good, physical, except for his fuckup. same with holden, great except for his fuckup. so many chances, both jozy's and the set pieces. thank god for tim howard
― avinha, Sunday, 10 October 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
fun times, good seats, lots and lots of poles
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs368.ash2/64641_444156571895_509986895_5400916_6674090_n.jpg
they looked like a team with a bunch of guys who don't quite know how to play together yet, and I still am not sure if 4-5-1 is something they can pull off. jones/holden were fun to watch tho.
― dan m, Sunday, 10 October 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://worldsoccerreader.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/JJwhiteboard.png
― avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
What do you guys do with those things?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link
nod sagely
― avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm still trying to learn how to watch the game. i want to understand a midfielder's most common passing locations. i want to see passing lanes before they develop. this was jones' first game with us. does the visual representation match what i saw on tv? what doesn't the chart tell me (in this case, about his physicality) ? if i look at enough of these what patterns will i see? i have so much trouble comparing two players against two different teams, could this help?
― avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link
where, how, and who did he link up with? (have to reach to remember the who) what was his average pass length?
i'm american, i love stats and charts, this chart may not tell me much but can we be so sure that the tenth or hundreth chart won't reveal something? we never know where tactical breakthroughs are going to come, who will see the game differently. i will stick to national type and hope it's us lol
― avinha, Monday, 11 October 2010 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link
^ could totally get behind this level of analysis for spurs, tbh. the analysis of what players do that works during a game. i bet mourinho is up to his neck in this shit.
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I assume you meant Allardyce
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
easy mistake to make, that
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm not knocking the concept either btw - if there's going to be some revolutionary development in the game (there only appears to ever have been two so far as I can tell) then I'm pretty persuaded that it'll come from some kind of synthesis of this and set-plays. I'm sure not going to be able to spot it though.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i think it's fair to speculate that improvement on a systemic level can come from the analysis of repeated actions
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
/banaka
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
what were those two revolutionary developments ismael ?
― Jibe, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
442, sam allardyce
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I've written about them before, but basically:
(i) the Scottish passing game taking over from kick-and-rush around the 1880s; and(ii) the whole pressing/offside trap/possession system of Ajax in the 1960s.
We're basically still exploring the world invented by (ii). There's a terrific book (Inverting the Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson) looking at the development of tactics through the ages, not sure if it'll've reached your shores Jibe. There are lots of interesting innovations discussed in it, but those two seem to be the big ones. The others usually mostly happen every few years when one guy stands in a slightly different position, and everyone else gets confused
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
And that's my 10,000th post. It's been a pleasure, I'd like to thank my agent, etc.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 October 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
congrats, it was worthy imo
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
ok thx. that book looks quite interesting, will try and get ahold of it as soon as my finances allow me to.
― Jibe, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
football finances thread
― i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a great read, enlightened me to many things + helped me relate my hockey tactical knowledge to similarities on the pitch.
― dan m, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently Spector is starting tonight, should be a lot of other changes too
― dan m, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
also lol @ < 10k tickets sold for this match, wtf
― dan m, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently Spector is starting tonight
GAAHHHHHHHH
― avinha, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
we are mediocre huh. lucky for us colombia is so far too
i love edu's composure on the ball. he doesn't make me start drumming my fingers nervously in possession.it seems like holden out wide takes away a lot of what's best about him: getting involved, cutting into passing lanes. you'd think the idea would be he'd send in crosses from out wide, but i don't think he's had a cross yet.
EJ for jozy? lichaj for spector (hey, he was only burned twice! not bad). any other changes?
― avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link
lichaj looked goodummm, other positives?
(we need to put it down on record that our first shot on goal was in the 55th minute)
― avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I was at the Fire/KC game so I missed this. Doesn't sound like much of note. From the descriptions I've read/heard it sounded like a 4-3-3? Last time I saw that Costa Rica kicked their ass.
― dan m, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i guess it was a 4-3-3, in the first half. jozy was so marooned and alone i'm tempted to call it 4-3-2-1. but i'm bad with formations. brek shea looked okay, not totally outclassed at this level with his first cap, so that's something. EJ came in at HT and edu went out (i think, i missed some) so the formation changed but i'm not sure how. the second half was better, dempsey with some spark, but yeah, you didn't miss much.
― avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
the pronunciation of Lichaj's name sounds exactly the same a "lihai" (厉害) which is a common slang word in Chinese that means "awesome."
― avinha, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
same for (Luis) Figo in Italian (actually 'fico', but close enough) - any other examples?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
in case there are any Brian McBride fans around... buy a shirt!
― dan m, Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
gooch goes after ibrahimovic after a dirty tackle
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Friday, 5 November 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
posted this in the italian thread but it makes more sense here:http://i51.tinypic.com/2h6c8m0.jpg
― sam acre, Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
btw congrats to Brian Carroll Logan Pause on callups, who the hell are you again?
― sam acre, Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
guys with cool nicknames who got callups: Mix, Boss. bunbury needs a nickname
― sam acre, Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i think his twitter is TealBunB which isn't too bad, lil southern rap ref
― sam acre, Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Pause is the Fire's MVP from the last season. Good club guy, plays dmid, dunno why he's getting called for this exactly.
― fwiw: lol iirc sb'd u tbqh (dan m), Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
worthwhile statsThe average number of caps on the roster is barely eight. Only four members of the side – Guzan, Jonathan Bornstein, Clarence Goodson and Jonathan Spector – can claim more than 15 appearances in an American jersey. Aside from the six potential debutants, another five guys have fewer than eight caps to their names.
― sam acre, Friday, 12 November 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link
prediction: US 5-3, and any misses aren't saved but are shot over the goal
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:56 (one year ago) link
lol
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link
After all that trash talk that is amazing
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link
Ok lol, b team
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:59 (one year ago) link
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:59 (one year ago) link
lmao....oh my fucking god
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:00 (one year ago) link
prediction - this one goes backwards
Cowell seems to have both a cross neck tat and a cross razored into his mullet
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:01 (one year ago) link
yeah lol....and god that hair
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
It's a shitty version of Ferreira's look
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link
Saint Turner
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:04 (one year ago) link
lol. at first he seemed like "lol that crossed the line mate" and then was like "man I suck"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link
Panama having 66% possession not something I thought I'd see
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link
imagine spending $200+ to take your kids to *this* match
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link
LMFAO
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link
No more Roldan plz
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 13 July 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link
kinda glad someone else gets a chance to win this time. if the US had managed to win the tourney with this terrible roster of misfits, lord.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link
really dk why I watch US vs T&T matches cos they always are lopsided and prove nothing but I'm itching for a football match so...here we go anyway
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 01:58 (nine months ago) link
(big asterisk next to "always")
watching teams sit in a low block for 90 minutes and throw 9 men inside the box is oh so thrilling
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 02:42 (nine months ago) link
lmao T&T player sent off. well this is about to be even less entertaining
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 02:45 (nine months ago) link
still 0-0. jfc this is embarrassing
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 03:38 (nine months ago) link
lol 3-0 within 8 minutes
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 November 2023 03:55 (nine months ago) link
Mexico losing the first leg to 78th ranked HOnduras wasn't something I anticipated, even with Mexico's current decline
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:53 (nine months ago) link
celtic's own luis palma on that honduras squad <3
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:54 (nine months ago) link
Sergino Dest sent off just before halftime due to the most childish tantrum I've ever seen.
Got mad that the ref ruled a ball out of bounds and punted it into the stands. Then screamed and insulted him and blew him a kiss.
Entire squad, especially Walker Zimmerman, totally laid into him.
They were winning 1-0, 4-0 on aggregate at the time!
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 00:50 (nine months ago) link
USWNT vs Canada match is a farce.
it rained heavily and the pitch is waterlogged and the drainage is abysmal. the ball is barely moving and is often getting stuck in puddles.
the match's sole goal came when a Canadian defender attempted a routine backpass to their goalie, and to her horror, it moved two inches before getting stuck, and Trinity Rodman ran to the ball and poked it in the goal.
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 March 2024 03:49 (five months ago) link
if I'm Canada i'm filing a protest
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 March 2024 03:50 (five months ago) link
sorry it was Jaedyn Shaw
― CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 March 2024 03:51 (five months ago) link
going to USMNT v Brazil tonight
I'm hoping the stadium gets destroyed
(it's Camping World and it's old and obsolete and also the Brazilian population is large in Orlando so it's basically going to be an away match)
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 21:12 (two months ago) link
loll
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 22:24 (two months ago) link
At least I get to see Gomes, a fellow Wolve, start lol
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 June 2024 22:44 (two months ago) link
um?
― default damager (lukas), Thursday, 13 June 2024 03:29 (two months ago) link
Lol it was a great match! Good result and great atmosphere
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 June 2024 03:32 (two months ago) link
of course US fans are the weird cynical type who will celebrate the first positive result against Brazil in over 25 years by saying "Brazil didn't really care". i mean we can go back to the 90s when losing 3-0 is seen as a positive result.
don't care who boos Boohalter though, he got jeered as he was announced yesterday and it was funny.
― Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:44 (two months ago) link
Most US fans are completely insufferable. Berhalter is not good but I don't think it's a tactical deficiency so much. I don't think he and the players have established the team/grind/never say die mentality that previous squads had. The kind of thing that kept them in games even when like Donovan or Reyna or whoever else were the few difference makers. Now there are more creative player and much better squad players but it's like they're made of foam and completely dissociate if (when) opponents break them down.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 14 June 2024 00:30 (two months ago) link
Mike Magee is an MLS legend for multiple reasons, but
Sorry @landondonovan 😂 pic.twitter.com/VGj2AFwWhs— Mike Magee (@magee18) June 18, 2024
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 02:06 (two months ago) link
Berhalted!
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 23:42 (one month ago) link
thank god
― perpetually awkward, perennially unhappy (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 July 2024 05:46 (one month ago) link
Poch in?
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 15 August 2024 13:23 (three weeks ago) link
LMAO been having a laugh about that all morning
― if this site were a food it would have NO nutritional value!!!!!!! (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 August 2024 13:24 (three weeks ago) link
Somehow I doubt darragh has bookmarked this thread
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 15 August 2024 13:29 (three weeks ago) link