Think the NultBot 3000 might be a faulty prototype of this kind of thing tbh: http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/20-companies-using-computer-generated-stories-save-money-on-writers_b37987
― Stevie T, Thursday, 15 September 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Anyone wearing plain black boots is doing so only because they don't have a kit sponsorship deal, so they'd rather black out all logos than let someone put a logo on their feet for which no money has changed hands.
― Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
warms the cockles of yer heart
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
It has been thus for many years ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2001/may/07/mondaymediasection.football
― Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah the subliminal stuff (and editorialising) i take as given but was it really ever thus that journos were forced to crowbar references to branded goods into the copy? maybe my memory is failing me but every time i see this it always rings a loud alarm
granted some journos are subtler about it (or less strongarmed, who knows) than others; it's one thing to be like "cattermole, speaking at hi-tec's free tibet campaign launch," rather than "cattermole sips his lucozade powervom fortified by minerals and ponders the question, a smile playing on his lips"
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
That Aguero one upthread was quite startling, I grant you. My guess would be there was only one print slot available, and that was the promise extracted for a piece all the papers would have wanted. Doubt Ryan Shawcross, say, would get that quote published.
― Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
friend pointed out something similar to me from the cricket world the other day -
Just flicking through an evening standard. Small piece on surrey's cb40 semi final on sunday, with a few quotes from hamilton-brown. At the end, apropos of nothing, it says hamilton-brown is represented by the wasserman media group. What's that all about? Do u reckon he wouldnt talk to them unless they put that at the end?
― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
Only when football catches up with the media model of American sport, where journalists are granted formalised and regular access to players
how does this work btw? centralised organisation is one thing sure but as a space for free media too?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
I'm always slightly taken aback when in the aftermath of an NFL/NBA game you see a player at his locker with about 15 mics/tape recorders in his face being asked questions. The idea of 20+ print, radio and tv journo's in the dressing rooms at Old Trafford post game asking whatever the hell they want doesn't seem feasible tbh
― pandemic, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/oct/29/players-managers-bad-challenges
hayward can be bad but this isn't
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2054847/John-Terry-scandal-Des-Kelly-Football-tolerate-blind-spot-racism.html
surprisingly considered stuff from ver mail
― Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Sunday, 30 October 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
anyone read an issue of the green soccer journal? it looks great. but i have no idea as to the quality of the writing.
i read this spanish mag called panenka, it's great. if you can read spanish.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
I never read tabloid journalism or listen to radio phone-ins relating to English football, but I wondered if you had a media that is as suspicious of the internet as our mob up here. Whenever there is a groundswell of support for an idea (e.g. Fans Against Criminalisation, the idea that Rangers may generally be fucked), it is always dismissed as the work of tinfoil-hat-wearing wotsit-munching mentalists rather than of functioning intelligent human beings with a useful means of contact and research and an ready-made audience at their fingertips. I just wondered if this was particular to the dinosaur media up here? (Hats off to STV though, their twitter presence and engagement is excellent)
― ailsa, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
I got a subscription to When Saturday Comes for Christmas. First issue arrived in the week. I'd never read it before but it's so excellent - short articles thus far, and every one interesting.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
surprised u never read it
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
So am I. Just got out of the habit of *buying* media I suppose, though a quick glance suggests their website's good too and I've never been on there either. I can't really explain it.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
the last one i got had ramsey&theo on the cover and wasnt great but generally its pretty good
― nakhchivan, Sunday, 15 January 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
chilling parallels with arsenal tbh
― til the power failure (darraghmac), Sunday, 15 January 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
― ailsa, Sunday, 15 January 2012 10:13 (Yesterday)
If anything I think it has made clubs
-try to be even more secretive abt 'big issues'-allow twitter for players who, lets be honest, dont ever really say anything newsworthy but makes it feel like the fans are more connected and inside because they read what jermaine jenas ate at pizza hut-ignore message boards and blogs until they have a new shirt or dvd to sell, in which they use them as an promotional tool, knowing fans do read them. i'm more likely to find out that arsenal have a dvd of [xyz] because arseblog are doing a competition about it than because it is mentioned in the sun and that has to be the same all around by now. Again this makes them seem 'inclusive' or whatever when it really is just shilling.
I think we won't really find out until there is an arab spring of a football club (to use a very awkward metaphor). If Bolton are 100m in the shitter and with no prospects, how long is it until Bolton fans a) find out through blogs and b) get together to do something about it, like an Ebbsfleet for a Premiership team or something?
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
FC United?
― Number None, Monday, 16 January 2012 09:55 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, like that.
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 10:00 (twelve years ago) link
The Black Scarf Movement?
― James Mitchell, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
I'm hoping that Rangers going tits up, as discussed on many a blog/messageboard for years while the traditional media fail to mention it and mutter about internet mentalist conspiracy, will be the thing up here that shifts the balance. There was definitely an undercurrent of suggesting that Hugh Dallas is no longer head of refereeing at the SFA because of meddling nerds rather than because he was a bigoted bastard in charge of a corrupt system exposed by a journalist who wrote on the internet rather than in a print publication. Antiquated old twats like Hugh Keevins and Jim Traynor have no idea how modern communication works.
― ailsa, Monday, 16 January 2012 10:25 (twelve years ago) link
The odd thing is that almost every fan under 40 reads blogs and gossip, right? Or at least 60%? I know some folk who are seem like the most casual fans who check out Swiss Ramble or at least f365 and talk about stuff you don't hear/read within trad media. Once a week you are also seeing some sort of club protest at places were the trad media aren't talking about problems (isn't every thing said on tv 'give kean a chance already people!' as opposed to 'hmmm maybe they have an issue with how venkys run the club?') and this is gonna have to reach a tipping point soon enough, right? TV pays for the Premiership, not the other way round but they act like they are muzzled by the Etihad and can't speak about actual stories.
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
(Could you imagine how essential viewing Football Focus would be if you just gave it to James Richardson and told he can go as far as he wants before the libel cases came in?)
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting horrifying-if-you're-a-Blackburn-fan stuff in the papers today about the Venky's bypassing their own board on major decisions like... who the manager should be.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 January 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, a hoy hoy, the TV perception of the Blackburn fans is a good case in point. It just baffles me how guys in the media can fail to capture what's going on with actual fans or with the world in general in terms of communication and chat, especially when it is done more publicly and on record than yer man chuntering on on the Clapham omnibus.
― ailsa, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
even the soccer saturday guys have closed ranks on blackburn, it's quite weird
― modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
the prob with the blackburn fans is just, at least superficially and in the way it is going to be perceived by outsiders, that a lot of their moaning is just bleating "keane out". venkys out i would have a lot more sympathy with.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
They only talk to each other, no? Explains why the occasional cheating, diving foreigner is incongruously fair game, like I dunno Christian Gross or Massimo Taibi. Steve Kean was one too until Ferguson and Moyes pitched in.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
keane out, venky's out, i've no quarrel with either tbh. He's the front, the plant, the mouthpiece, the cuckoo's egg. A win or two doesn't alter that in any way.
― modric conservative (darraghmac), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but the 'don't be mean to kean!' line seems so uptight and against what fans feel, it borders on ludicrous.
― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
"there was a staleness about them that invited harm"
this is a mccarra phrase from a long-forgotten match report that has inexplicably forever lodged itself in my mind
― r|t|c, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Bookmark
this has recently been superseded by "the evening fell under the control of marcelo bielsa's squad" just fyi
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
Adel Taarabt causes trouble. Despite his undoubted talent, Tottenham gave up on Taarabt. So, earlier this season, did Ian Holloway. On Saturday, Mark Hughes, who has replaced Holloway as manager, started his mercurial midfielder against his former club.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_berlin/04/21/premier.league.thoughts/index.html
― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 April 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
As United's manager begins his annual summer holiday in the south of France he may reflect that calligraphy derives from the Greek words kallos and graphe. Meaning "beautiful writing", it is a form of expression intended to address the heart as much as the eyes.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jun/05/shinji-kagawa-manchester-united
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link
guessed richard williams
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/254015/Liverpool-job-is-Brendan-Rodger-sLiverpool-job-is-Brendan-Rodger-s
just putting the worst football headline of all time here for posterity
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
The new Blizzard contains the following sentence:
Constantly high, drunk or both, Lundekvam took to roaming around in his garden with a huge knife, hunting paparazzi.
― William Bloody Swygart, Friday, 15 June 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah,i read that. Thought it was a poor issue in general though.
― tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Friday, 15 June 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
Manchester City had two new players on show. One was Jack Rodwell, right, spoiling his debut with the mistake that led to Southampton's second goal after a £15m transfer from Everton. The other was not technically foreign to this parish: Carlos Tevez 2.0, who is promising to be all the good things, and none of the bad, that any £250,000-a-week forward should be.
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
The pain inflicted by the loss of Fábregas and, more recently, Robin van Persie – not to mention Nuri Sahin's decision to join Liverpool on loan from Real Madrid – was temporarily at least diminished by his new 5ft 6in Spaniard.
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From Giroud's viewpoint this could only be a good thing. Long before Cazorla had assuaged Wenger's anxieties – not to mention ruined José Reina's afternoon – by scoring Arsenal's second goal, their lone striker had appeared a weak link.
― Unlike humans, dogs don't talk shit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
These are, of course, early days and expectations are, as Wenger puts it, very high. Giroud must be given a decent chance to adapt to a new football culture but it is impossible to resist the thought that a move for Andy Carroll on Arsenal's part last week might not have been quite as left-field as it sounds. Alan Pardew, Newcastle United's manager, sees shades of Zlatan Ibrahimovic in the England centre-forward and what better habitat in which to coax them out of him than The Emirates?
― Unlike humans, dogs don't talk shit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/sep/02/santi-cazorla-arsenal/print
― Unlike humans, dogs don't talk shit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:40 (Yesterday)
i think i just threw up a little in the back of my throat
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 3 September 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
Ezra Pound described his incomplete poem, Cantos, as a "rag-bag", but he could just as well have been talking about Queens Park Rangers' style of play.
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 October 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link
Was that Richard Williams? Please tell me that was Richard Williams.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 October 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
once again williams is surprisingly found innocent
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/05/premier-league-10-things-weekend
it's this new (?) prat at the graun, not his only choice line either
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 October 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link
£'s the cuntos morelike amirite
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 October 2012 10:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/oct/03/steven-fletcher-sunderland-scotland
first comment hall of fame btw, sweet as a nut
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 October 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link
And then there is the question of Gervinho. The Ivory Coast international often looks like an embarrassed teenager on an early sexual encounter; he's scoring, yet most of his time is spent fumbling around without really knowing what to do.
― pandemic, Friday, 5 October 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link