THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

xps oh lol, who knew? don't they do something like that with baseball too, between PR, DR and Japan?

already have the euro during olympic years

world baseball classic, coming this march

it is a joek

basketball world cup is p sweet tho obvs itd be better if the usa wasnt so superior to everyone else, tho they have due to a combination of single elimination format, international rules, top players opting out, and bad officiating actually lost a couple times

top players have pretty busy schedules with their clubs in all these sports. i can see getting up for an olympics or world cup every four years, but fuck a davis cup

leave the davis cup for tennis or golf or whatever

sports where both teams rack up big scores have other pleasures but the act of scoring itself is diminished in them imo

that's why i like basketball, because scoring itself is often (like every few points) extremely entertaining, involving dunks, layups, fakes, etc

itd just be school yard soccer

strikes me as correct OR you could just watch indoor soccer and see what you think of that

lol it would resemble neither, how ridiculous

its like saying the only thing separating the nba from a pick up game is the three second rule

you can play zone d in the nba now; that's the only thing separating it from pickup

wtf did ILF turn into bigsoccer

i'm not suggesting it'd be indoor soccer (cause it's not indoors and the ball doesn't bounce off walls and it's not played like five per side) just that maybe indoor soccer is something to think about (cf NV bringing up hockey)

actually doesn't hockey have an offsides rule too, isn't that what "icing" is?

icing is different from offsides

could we have a thread about promotion/relegation in MLS next plz

xp offside in hockey is the exact same concept except the blue line is the threshold instead of the last defender.

I've never really understood icing

obv we should have relegation in every American sport, it's the most ruthless concept, I love it

icing is basically to prevent one team from wasting tons of time by firing the puck all the way into the opponent's end repeatedly

ok they call that offside or they call that icing, dan?

i thought icing was intentionally firing the puck past "the blue line" so that your dude could zip up there and technically not be offside?

ah i didn't realize it was a time-wasting / defensive tactic

i don't watch hockey, i feel like i can't ever see the puck

icing is firing the puck from your half of the ice to beyond the other extended goal line -- generally because your team is under pressure and you're just haphazardly trying to relieve it

the puck must enter the offensive zone (at the blue line) before any offensive players or it is offside

(there also used to be an offside aka two-line pass, but that is currently legal)

Where are all my ilf homies? What sport are you talking about? Who even are you guys?

Trying to imagine what would happen: I can't recall exactly why the rule was introduced, but it (eventually, after about fifty years) had the very odd unintended consequence that the effective field-of-play moves around the actual field-of-play based on where the defenders are positioned. So play gets compressed into a much tighter area (benefitting quick-thinking, quick-footed players) with a gap behind them that you need expert timing to attack.

So if the rule were abolished, the following would probably happen:

• defenders would sit deeper to close off the vulnerable area behind them
• making the effective field-of-play much bigger
• meaning less skilful players would prosper
• probably meaning faster and stronger guys, because there'd be more loose balls to tackle for, and more space to chase into

It'd be shit.

we could definitely use a klata scale for other sports btw

this is kinda what indoor and basketball is like except w/ soccer the field is a lot bigger so i'm not sure?

I'll get working on a modern pentathlon one

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: I Love Football as a private board with entry criteria i.e. watching more than 45 minutes every four years

pandemic otm, dan m otm, Klata otm

Everyone else should go watch this crazy 'water polo' business, it seems pretty dope but maybe it could be doper, idk?

Or is this some sort of payback - are random Brit and Euro ppl polluting ILH with garbage about how Team USA should press full-court every possession because Barcelona etc.?

can you even imagine if ILF was packed with a bunch of people who don't really have a clue what they're talking about prattling on inanely?

nah come on, i'm all for threads like this, it's good to think about why you think the laws of the game work, also i'm all for thought experiments and comparative sport analysis

lol Spiralli put it better than me

It'd be shit.

there are leagues that do crazy rules changes too, ncca men's soccer allows unlimited subs afaik

and mls of course had its own share of 'enhancements' early on

ncca = ncaa

i kinda think MLS should abolish offsides and change some other rules because thatd be an awesome disrespectful american thing to do, and i mean why not before you just have another second rate league, now you have a crazy second rate league thats a laboratory for the rest of the world and everyone has opinons abt it

1996-level thinking

also this is surprisingly awesome, <3 skeletor bob

While IFAB rules allow teams to substitute three players during games, MLS allowed a fourth, goalkeeper-only substitute. MLS discarded the rule after 2003 and adopted the IFAB standard, prompted in part by a match in which then MetroStars coach and former U.S. national head coach Bob Bradley used a loophole to insert an outfield player as a fourth substitute.

I'm not buying that xps, there's generally a minimum discourse level on ILF, it could be higher but it towers over the inanity of this idea. If you don't have any knowledge of what the fuck you're talking about, proposing "innovations" is just disguised derision.

In fairness I doubt the modern game could've been foreseen when the offside rule was introduced, so all this conjecture could be bollocks.

But see how England played against Italy? That's probably how to do it if there's no offside. Both teams playing like that.

(ILF open to all btw, Spiralli otm)

But see how England played against Italy? That's probably how to do it if there's no offside. Both teams playing like that.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forever.

I am a new convert to association footballism, but I understand deeply where lagoon is coming from, we share a special bond and vision for the way we like sports

which is to say...how can soccer have sick dunks

ok, as ILHoops mod, I would like to extend an olive branch. if u would like, u may start a lag∞n-brand THOUGHT EXPERIMENT thread of your choice on our board wherein we can imagine basketball w promotion/regulation or if u foul out/flagrant foul your team has 4 players the rest of the game. these are suggestions for THOUGHT EXPERIMENTS, but u might have other visi∞ns.

box = butt

all = hurrtt

which is to say...how can soccer have sick dunks

u&k

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: I Love Football as a private board with entry criteria i.e. watching more than 45 minutes every four years

how about playing morre than 45 minutes per week

the vengeful hand of status quo bias lashes out, we are left to box it all back

douche it all bagg

thought experiment: place additional goals at all four corners and both sides of the midfield, each player for himself, if you shoot for a goal and someone catches it you're eliminated from play