THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

actually doesn't hockey have an offsides rule too, isn't that what "icing" is?

icing is different from offsides

could we have a thread about promotion/relegation in MLS next plz

xp offside in hockey is the exact same concept except the blue line is the threshold instead of the last defender.

I've never really understood icing

obv we should have relegation in every American sport, it's the most ruthless concept, I love it

icing is basically to prevent one team from wasting tons of time by firing the puck all the way into the opponent's end repeatedly

ok they call that offside or they call that icing, dan?

i thought icing was intentionally firing the puck past "the blue line" so that your dude could zip up there and technically not be offside?

ah i didn't realize it was a time-wasting / defensive tactic

i don't watch hockey, i feel like i can't ever see the puck

icing is firing the puck from your half of the ice to beyond the other extended goal line -- generally because your team is under pressure and you're just haphazardly trying to relieve it

the puck must enter the offensive zone (at the blue line) before any offensive players or it is offside

(there also used to be an offside aka two-line pass, but that is currently legal)

Where are all my ilf homies? What sport are you talking about? Who even are you guys?

Trying to imagine what would happen: I can't recall exactly why the rule was introduced, but it (eventually, after about fifty years) had the very odd unintended consequence that the effective field-of-play moves around the actual field-of-play based on where the defenders are positioned. So play gets compressed into a much tighter area (benefitting quick-thinking, quick-footed players) with a gap behind them that you need expert timing to attack.

So if the rule were abolished, the following would probably happen:

• defenders would sit deeper to close off the vulnerable area behind them
• making the effective field-of-play much bigger
• meaning less skilful players would prosper
• probably meaning faster and stronger guys, because there'd be more loose balls to tackle for, and more space to chase into

It'd be shit.

we could definitely use a klata scale for other sports btw

this is kinda what indoor and basketball is like except w/ soccer the field is a lot bigger so i'm not sure?

I'll get working on a modern pentathlon one

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: I Love Football as a private board with entry criteria i.e. watching more than 45 minutes every four years

pandemic otm, dan m otm, Klata otm

Everyone else should go watch this crazy 'water polo' business, it seems pretty dope but maybe it could be doper, idk?

Or is this some sort of payback - are random Brit and Euro ppl polluting ILH with garbage about how Team USA should press full-court every possession because Barcelona etc.?

can you even imagine if ILF was packed with a bunch of people who don't really have a clue what they're talking about prattling on inanely?

nah come on, i'm all for threads like this, it's good to think about why you think the laws of the game work, also i'm all for thought experiments and comparative sport analysis

lol Spiralli put it better than me

It'd be shit.

there are leagues that do crazy rules changes too, ncca men's soccer allows unlimited subs afaik

and mls of course had its own share of 'enhancements' early on

ncca = ncaa

i kinda think MLS should abolish offsides and change some other rules because thatd be an awesome disrespectful american thing to do, and i mean why not before you just have another second rate league, now you have a crazy second rate league thats a laboratory for the rest of the world and everyone has opinons abt it

1996-level thinking

also this is surprisingly awesome, <3 skeletor bob

While IFAB rules allow teams to substitute three players during games, MLS allowed a fourth, goalkeeper-only substitute. MLS discarded the rule after 2003 and adopted the IFAB standard, prompted in part by a match in which then MetroStars coach and former U.S. national head coach Bob Bradley used a loophole to insert an outfield player as a fourth substitute.

I'm not buying that xps, there's generally a minimum discourse level on ILF, it could be higher but it towers over the inanity of this idea. If you don't have any knowledge of what the fuck you're talking about, proposing "innovations" is just disguised derision.

In fairness I doubt the modern game could've been foreseen when the offside rule was introduced, so all this conjecture could be bollocks.

But see how England played against Italy? That's probably how to do it if there's no offside. Both teams playing like that.

(ILF open to all btw, Spiralli otm)

But see how England played against Italy? That's probably how to do it if there's no offside. Both teams playing like that.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, July 29, 2012 7:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forever.

I am a new convert to association footballism, but I understand deeply where lagoon is coming from, we share a special bond and vision for the way we like sports

which is to say...how can soccer have sick dunks

ok, as ILHoops mod, I would like to extend an olive branch. if u would like, u may start a lag∞n-brand THOUGHT EXPERIMENT thread of your choice on our board wherein we can imagine basketball w promotion/regulation or if u foul out/flagrant foul your team has 4 players the rest of the game. these are suggestions for THOUGHT EXPERIMENTS, but u might have other visi∞ns.

box = butt

all = hurrtt

which is to say...how can soccer have sick dunks

u&k

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: I Love Football as a private board with entry criteria i.e. watching more than 45 minutes every four years

how about playing morre than 45 minutes per week

the vengeful hand of status quo bias lashes out, we are left to box it all back

douche it all bagg

thought experiment: place additional goals at all four corners and both sides of the midfield, each player for himself, if you shoot for a goal and someone catches it you're eliminated from play

the idea that all sports are as entertaining as they could be is absurd, I'm for radical changes every year until we find the true optimum entrainment level

but I'm pretty sure what would happen is all sports would evolve into American football

entertainment lol iphone

Both teams shoot into the same goal, goalkeeper selected from a third team imo (pro tip: don't get seats at the other end)

basketball with an oval-shaped ball, bring it on.

and mls of course had its own share of 'enhancements' early on

i remember a diagram in world soccer or something that showed a proposed mls scoring system with the field cut into zones, with more points awarded the farther away from goal you scored from. did this ever happen? (was it a joke i was too young + stupid to get?)

if there were no offsides would avb still be chelsea's manager?

the idea that all sports are as entertaining as they could be is absurd, I'm for radical changes every year until we find the true optimum entrainment level

but I'm pretty sure what would happen is all sports would evolve into American football

― iatee, Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf american football is more flawed than basically any of the other sports mentioned itt

Thought experiment: goal line technology

steady on

personally i think soccer and basketball are the best sports to watch because they're the closest to thing to a pickup game you get at the pro level

is the game wembley a national thing or was it local to us? players shoot into the same goal, if you score you go thru to the next round, last person each round is eliminated until a final 1 on 1 round? anyway, that is what they should do instead of pens. each team picks 3 players, every knock out game has a third goalkeeper assigned.

that sounds more like "gameshow" than "sport"

i think in general it's not a bad idea to consider rules that make the game more, uh, relatable or inspiring to the experience of people who play for fun, i.e. me

but also i try to hold back on judgment because i'm not familiar w/ that level of play and it's hard for me to say how a rule that impacts a pickup game one way will impact a pro level game

i think serious fans of any sport probably have some ideas about how to make the sport better - rules are changed all the time to make the game more efficient or fun or high-scoring or safe or conducive to this-that etc. i definitely have my own radical ideas for the NBA

personally i think soccer and basketball are the best sports to watch because they're the closest to thing to a pickup game you get at the pro level

are these also the sports most likely to use imagery of ragtag street urchins playing w/ minimal setups in their advertising?