THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: ABOLISH OFFSIDES

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thought experiment: place additional goals at all four corners and both sides of the midfield, each player for himself, if you shoot for a goal and someone catches it you're eliminated from play

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

the idea that all sports are as entertaining as they could be is absurd, I'm for radical changes every year until we find the true optimum entrainment level

but I'm pretty sure what would happen is all sports would evolve into American football

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

entertainment lol iphone

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

Both teams shoot into the same goal, goalkeeper selected from a third team imo (pro tip: don't get seats at the other end)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link

basketball with an oval-shaped ball, bring it on.

and mls of course had its own share of 'enhancements' early on

i remember a diagram in world soccer or something that showed a proposed mls scoring system with the field cut into zones, with more points awarded the farther away from goal you scored from. did this ever happen? (was it a joke i was too young + stupid to get?)

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

if there were no offsides would avb still be chelsea's manager?

Chris, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

the idea that all sports are as entertaining as they could be is absurd, I'm for radical changes every year until we find the true optimum entrainment level

but I'm pretty sure what would happen is all sports would evolve into American football

― iatee, Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf american football is more flawed than basically any of the other sports mentioned itt

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

Thought experiment: goal line technology

DX Dx DX (dan m), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

steady on

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

personally i think soccer and basketball are the best sports to watch because they're the closest to thing to a pickup game you get at the pro level

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

is the game wembley a national thing or was it local to us? players shoot into the same goal, if you score you go thru to the next round, last person each round is eliminated until a final 1 on 1 round? anyway, that is what they should do instead of pens. each team picks 3 players, every knock out game has a third goalkeeper assigned.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

that sounds more like "gameshow" than "sport"

i think in general it's not a bad idea to consider rules that make the game more, uh, relatable or inspiring to the experience of people who play for fun, i.e. me

but also i try to hold back on judgment because i'm not familiar w/ that level of play and it's hard for me to say how a rule that impacts a pickup game one way will impact a pro level game

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

i think serious fans of any sport probably have some ideas about how to make the sport better - rules are changed all the time to make the game more efficient or fun or high-scoring or safe or conducive to this-that etc. i definitely have my own radical ideas for the NBA

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

personally i think soccer and basketball are the best sports to watch because they're the closest to thing to a pickup game you get at the pro level

are these also the sports most likely to use imagery of ragtag street urchins playing w/ minimal setups in their advertising?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

basketball and soccer def are similar in some ways, there's an elegance due to their smooth pace of the game and the athleticism of its players that is not seen with lots of other sports. american football for example is very brutish and a little slow-paced which are my major gripes with it. plus all the fatties

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

plus like, special teams and shit

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

otm the punting and kicking what is that

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Wembley was called World Cup (or possibly World Cuppie) round my way. Poaching was the only tactic I ever had any success with, due to playing with older boys and being rubbish - an offside rule would've killed me off totally.

I would absolutely *love* to see pros playing it, yes.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

we played a game called "butts up" that i would love see federer and nadal play

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

n/h

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

wtf american football is more flawed than basically any of the other sports mentioned itt

― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:20 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well american football is flawed because playing it means you will prob live a very miserable life afterwards, but I was just talking about entertainment value, where the only thing that the nfl could do to improve is give bonus points for trick plays

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

change it to flag football

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

which might happen as the brain damage suicides rack up

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

my pollyannaish hope is that American football will decline in popularity due to brain damages and that soccer will ascend

electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but if americans start seriously playing soccer there will be just as much brain damage

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

I'm hoping we slowly transition to ping pong

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

a three-hour game (like american football) that boils down to what, 20 minutes of action is not my idea of entertainment value

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but if americans start seriously playing soccer there will be just as much brain damage

is that true?

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

no it was a joke, football involves way more head slammin

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

tho I did know a female college soccer player who had something like 6 concussions

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

explains john terry

(amirite?)

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

Footballs are a lot lighter than they were. Heading the ball repeatedly over the course of many years could potentially cause brain injuries but it's much less likely now than it was in the 60s and 70s.

Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

i think the proper techniques of using the edge of your forehead is nailed down too

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

well the ball itself is not even the #1 cause of head injuries I would imagine?

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

true too

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

the #1 cause is zidane

the late great, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

the girl I knew received 5 out of her 6 concussions via zidane

iatee, Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

small sample size tbf

Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link

splendid thread

i say let's keep these intrepid young bucks around and ship out the american soccer superfans, freshen up the ilf roster

r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link

No offside. Most leagues play without an offside rule. Some leagues enforce a "three-line violation", prohibiting players from playing the ball in the air from behind the front line of their own penalty area across all three lines into the opponent's penalty area. Violations often result in a free kick for the opposing team at the front line of the offending team's penalty area.

the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link

^ indoor soccer

the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link

No offisdes would result in ten players defending the box and one lone striker way out - it would lessen the back-and-forth aspect of soccer, would make counters less exciting and less likely to score and make normal build-up attacks more rare and less valuable.

sive gallus et mulier (Michael White), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

yuh no offsides would mean less attacking imo and the game would get even tighter, especially in game where fast, superior athletes can push an opposition back knowing that their backline can easily handle going up against jason roberts

"deep beyond Wang" (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

more true than ever

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

all the offsides

dan m, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link

It's that time of the decade: football noob time!

Who whom kissed? (imago), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:14 (ten years ago) link

um i may not know as much abt soccer as certain people or watch it ever but i understand it better than pretty much everyone that is my gift and also my burden

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link

*bows, enlightened*

Who whom kissed? (imago), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link

i read about many of the sports on the internet and on ilxor.com and why is it that footsoccer is the one sport where ppl seem to be most precious about knowing or understanding the game? it is just hating on americans right? i enjoy that as much as the next right minded fellow but it seems like there have to be a metric tonne of less lame ways to go about it

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

Dude, I'm the one who asked where I could get American streams coz I prefer their commentators to the English ones

Who whom kissed? (imago), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link


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