um i may not know as much abt soccer as certain people or watch it ever but i understand it better than pretty much everyone that is my gift and also my burden
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
*bows, enlightened*
― Who whom kissed? (imago), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
i read about many of the sports on the internet and on ilxor.com and why is it that footsoccer is the one sport where ppl seem to be most precious about knowing or understanding the game? it is just hating on americans right? i enjoy that as much as the next right minded fellow but it seems like there have to be a metric tonne of less lame ways to go about it
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link
Dude, I'm the one who asked where I could get American streams coz I prefer their commentators to the English ones
― Who whom kissed? (imago), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:29 (ten years ago) link
to fuel the hate that sustains you
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
Lj you know the primary commentators for American streams are all Britishers right
― dan m, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link
LJ you know all English-speaking commentators are fucking awful right
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:37 (ten years ago) link
lj u know the offsides rule is completely contrary to the spirit of the game right
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:41 (ten years ago) link
just wait until the US picks up the 2022 tournament on the rebound, i'm sure Sepp will let you do whatever you want to the laws
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
admit it wld be cool if mls changed the rule just to see right, to test it out
― lag∞n, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
i wd be okay if you ran this experiment alongside a proper World Cup just so's we didn't miss out
― arid banter (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link
they score tons of points in basketball and its the best
lol
― caek, Saturday, 14 June 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
fact
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 June 2014 16:36 (ten years ago) link
imo a klaxon should sound at randomly timed points to turn the offside rule on and off.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link
fuck it, apply that to all rules why not.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link
immediate video ref much more u&k a change needed IMO, and refs to be interviewed after each game upon request
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:38 (ten years ago) link
yah if any sport needs to be able to review calls is soccer cause of how much individual calls can affect the outcome of the game
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link
It would be cool if they installed like 100 cameras in the stadium and used computers to determine whether somebody was offsides or not
Like we can superimpose a down line in American football and we've been doing that for like 20 years at least
Use computers to play soccer, that's my platform
― 龜, Saturday, 14 June 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link
http://thefunambulistdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/barricade-paris-1945.jpg
― Naamloze vennootschap (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 June 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3pENrUe.gif
― 龜, Saturday, 14 June 2014 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Obama coming in from the left
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 June 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
thinkin bout this again
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
its wild that soccers is the most popular sport with all the fucked up shit that goes on
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link
prob mostly due to the fact there are no stoppages of play due to tv commercials which tbf is amazing
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
football is already a broken fake spectacle beholden to tv companies just like all the other professional sports, you can let it go now bud
― da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link
trying to work out if it was a united game that first inspired this thread too lol
― imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
seemingly not. olympics maybe
― imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
i dont remember lol fwiw i do not "support" man u, i just hate to see a goal nullified by offsides
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
the only thing from the game just now that needs to be abolished is peter drury
― imago, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
offsides to the mm dont work under var, even when the player is actually offside (todays wasnt)
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
why wont any league abolish offsides cmon america has multiple ones now cant a shitty one just give it a try, i need to see it, it bothers me the way america is adopting soccer just larping shit from tv wearing the scarves calling the teams fc being unreasonably attached to the offsides rule, mortifying
― lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/sep/04/swedish-club-contact-ifab-after-finding-loophole-in-offside-law
― mizzell, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
Funny vid, but if you tried that in a real game someone would just kick the ball off your foot before you got the chance to kick it.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
Per OP 11 years ago, think they've tried getting rid of offside many times and you just get all the strikers hanging around the box with the midfielders hoofing the ball in their direction. If that's what you want to see then fair enough.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
i am pro the offside rule bcz it is the brainchild of J. C. THRING
― mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
literally this guy's dad lol
https://i0.wp.com/www.rob-gregory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Gabbitas-and-Thring-Cropped.jpg
― mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, September 5, 2023 2:33 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
theyve never tried getting rid off offsides, at least not over a long enough stretch to let real strategy evolve, and i suspect just kicking it into the box wouldnt be where it would land, tho it would def stretch the field so to speak
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
they have to start bringing it back to the original intent
this millimetre centimetre bullshit is destroying the game trevor
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
xp yeah it's only ever been trialled in lower leagues, sure it wouldn't be quite the same over a period of time in the premiership, but it would still change the game fundamentally, there would be much less movement.would agree completely that it's much, much too strict and applied too pedantically these days.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
I mean they could always go back to the old rule where even being even is offside.
That will not at all fix the obsession with frame by frame advance but if ur a fan of offside calls boy would u be thrilled
― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
The line drawing is nonsense. If we must have var then they should show the var people a freeze frame of the moment the pass is made and the attacker and last defender, if they can't tell from that picture if the player is offside or not then the goal stands. Mostly they won't be able to tell and we'll be back to the pre var days of level is onside advantage to the attacker
― oscar bravo, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
What they should do is just play the entire match, no VAR at all, then after the match they VAR the whole thing and tell you what the official final score is
― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
People always say "you will have a problem with this until it's your team benefitting from it" and it's like "well sure if we're gonna be fucked by it it's only fair we have some go out way too" but that doesn't mean I enjoy it.
Getting bailed out by VAR for something like that always cheapens victories for me as a fan and ruins the viewing experience even more as a neutral spectator.
I don't mind VAR for PKs and red card offenses but even then they shouldn't be allowed to frame by frame
― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
Do they do this at non-sports jobs?
"You are appealing being fired for smoking on company grounds. We reviewed the security footage with an independent auditor and on frame by frame advance you can see your left foot was inside company grounds.
Your termination is upheld
― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
it's still mad shit that Dixie Dean managed to score 60 goals in 39 games in the offside rule era.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
― Dinglebert Humperstink (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:49 (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
love this tbh
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
the thing is
weve seen absolutely bullshit calls under var since the start, from deciding not to review to deciding not to call the ref over to the ref deciding not to change decision
weve seen clearly offside players and lines that are almost comicallydrawn to get the goal to stand, handballs that were never handballs before and blatant handballs not called
not to turn it partisan but the same clubs get calls from cunt refs and the only thing var has changed is that its more of a disgrace
junk it altogether at this stage
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link
yes so many wrong decisions but the main problem for me is that they started from the assumption that the more 'correct' decisions you get per match no matter what that does to the flow of the game the 'better' it is for the sport. var has made watching football worse imo.to go back to the original post about scrapping offside my answer would be no because one of the most thrilling things in football is the perfectly timed run/pass to beat offside and leave a one-on-one with the goalie and if you don't enjoy that then maybe football isn't the sport for you.
― oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:13 (one year ago) link
maybe its not for you
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:16 (one year ago) link
p sure it is but you do you
― oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 06:36 (one year ago) link