Let's do this. Eredivisie starts this weekend. I'll try and give irregular updates about Europe's most prolific Micky Mouse competition, the UK Premier Leaugue's prime discount outlet store with some surprisingly good bargains every now and again.
The three title contenders: Ajax, PSV and FC Twente. And their best players, are they ready? Let watch and find out!
http://www.ajax.nl/upload_mm/1/a/d/178870_Eriksen_600x338.jpgChristian Eriksen, Ajax: "Man City can get ta fuck, I'm the number one wunderkind of Europe, I'm ready for Ajax."
http://www.igol.pl/images/articles/ola_toivonen.pngOla Toivonen, PSV: "As new captain I promise to keep my elbows in and not step on other people's toes, so I'm ready!"
http://blog.sportbet.com/sb/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bryan-ruiz.jpgBryan Ruiz, FC Twente: "If I don't get my dream transfer to Spurs, I'm quite sure I'll be ready."
Ajax is the favorite for the title, having won it last year and up to now no extreme losses in players sold. They also bought last season's revelation, Icelandic striker Kholbein Sightorsson, from AZ (who turned down Arsenal when he was nine years old). Biggest obstacle of them winning the league? It might be Cruijff who joined the board of Ajax and creates a massive stir.Twente seem as stable as ever, and probably got the best - without a doubt the most entertaining, unique - coach in, Co Adriaanse. If Ruiz stays there's no reason why they can't win it. PSV - having dominated the 00's with six out ten league wins - have not been champion for three years and are dying for a title. Went on a shopping spree buying some of the biggest talents from last season, number 10 and great talent Georginio Wijnaldum (from Feyenoord), and in a package deal costing 12 million, Belgian winger Dries Mertens and playmaker and new international Kevin Strootman from Utrecht. PSV still lacking a striker and central defender though, definitely not done shopping.
For 4th, 5th, 6th place: AZ, Groningen, Heerenveen, Roda JC. If a miracle happens, also Feyenoord with new coach Ronald Koeman.
Last season's most lol-worthy incident was Luis Suarez biting PSV's Otman Bakkal, good for a 7 match ban:
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1390403_o.gif
I for one would be highly disappointed if this doesn't get topped this season.
(title refers to Utrecht keeper Michel Vorm who today agreed terms with Swansea)
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
tho i don't watch it, i'll be watching this thread, keep up the good work
― 10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
thanks!
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago)
have PSV held onto there v tidy indeed left winger, think his name started with a K?
― pandemic, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
yes, thx for doing this le bateau. thread bookmarked!
― Jibe, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
Oh and thanks for this btw LBI!
― pandemic, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
I think You mean Balázs Dzsudzsák? Unfortunately (I'm a PSV fan) no, he was sold for 14 million to FC Anzhi Makhachkala, the Russian club that also bought Roberto Carlos, Chelsea's Yuri Zhirkov, Mbark Boussoufa etc.
His sale made it possible for PSV to go on a much needed shopping spree though. Suarez and Dzsudzsák were last year's best players, shame we saw them go but that's how it works.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago)
xxp
Merci bien, guys!
Really really excited to read this thread, keep us posted!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
xp yes that's the fella! Sorry you've lost him:(
― pandemic, Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks Gravel! :)
@Pandemic, yeah I know, though with players of this caliber you know they will move on. It's part of the Dutch league. It's just a shame he went to Russia, which is such an invisible part of footballing Europe. He could've easily played for, say, l'OM, Sevilla or Arsenal. And then we could still see him play.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago)
I meant Lyon, not l'OM (although they'd probably be happy with him too). He always particularly struck me a a Lyon player for some reason.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 6 August 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)
Rutten out.
(Altidore scored his first AZ goal in his first official match, not bad, against PSV no less, 3-1 end result) PSV seem to have forgotten to buy a defense, with all their money spending.
my team (NAC Breda) are in deep financial shit, so.. the season is hardly worth starting. ;) (opening at home against Twente this afternoon, might be the only chance for a surprise, that early in the season)
Alex Schalk is the new promising NAC star, for those keeping track Celtic wanted to buy the guy (who's like 19) 1 or 2 years ago. (and they were right, they are calling him Der Bomber already)
― Ludo, Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
Ha Ludo! Feel free to chip on this thread some more :)
Bad start from PSV. Clearly missing a striker, there's like four #10's all running around not knowing who to deliver the ball to in the end. Defense wasn't even that bad today tbh, although clearly they need another central defender. But all props to AZ who are again playing very fresh, attacking fluidly.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
ah my ramble was purely score board journalism as Co would say. ;)
i like how Dutch tv text has dropped Scottish football (..) in favor of the Russian league. Makes you realize the err limits of tv text. (which still miles better than teh interwebz of course) ;)
― Ludo, Sunday, 7 August 2011 13:50 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah quite surprising, that.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 August 2011 14:11 (thirteen years ago)
I take it Spurs have been watching him again tonight. If so, they saw this beauty from Bryan Ruiz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2mza_ABtnw
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
Twente beat AZ with 2-0, and with Adriaanse as coach they are top flight again, as expected. A well oiled machine. Curious to see how they will do against Benfica this week for a place in the CL. AZ may have lost but are really growing too. They are well on the way of surprising everyone and breaking into the top 3.
That will probably mean PSV will be 4th. They massively struggled to beat newcomer RKC 1-0 tonight. They were even stalling the play at the end, playing at home... :-/ This will not be PSV's season. Not with Rutten as manager. Cringe-worthy, awful awful football. Damnit.
Ajax last week won 4-1 from De Graafschap without playing really well. Tomorrow is a bigger test for them when they meet SC Heerenveen.
I find it nice to see Feyenoord doing well, at least for the first two matches this year. After years of misery they top the table now. Ronald Koeman's influence and style is already slowly showing in their play.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago)
the guy's been in charge for what, 2-3 seasons? wasn't he assistant manager before that for a long spell, how come they're still not playing nice attractive combinations, patterns, patterns.
i felt the squad wants Rutten out too. playing like: please RKC, EQUALIZE
I expect a comfy win for Ajax today, they will probably start struggling mid-season though.
Twente could be a disaster without Ruiz, on the other end, Co's magic might still work.
― Ludo, Sunday, 14 August 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbr9nA7J90&hd=1
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago)
lbi, ludo etc -- how do you rate the current generation of dutch u-21 etc players like wijnaldum, luuk de jong etc
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago)
On the whole I'd say the younger generation is quite promising and has potential. Obviously they are not at top level yet, but there is a new Dutch generation behind the Dutch 11 we all know that is on the move. It certainly is very different from when Holland under 21 won the European Championship 3 or 4 years ago. Those players, Drenthe, Rigters, Owusu-Abeyi, Aissati etc. all moved to bigger clubs, mostly abroad, and failed completely. The "new" way for Dutch youngsters seems to be carefully planning their career. And the Dutch manager seems to reward them for this, he stimulates staying in Holland a bit longer before going to a big club.
Georginio Wijnaldum could have gone to many clubs abroad, earning more etc. but decided to stay in Holland and move to PSV. He's a brilliant rough diamond, very level-headed. Same goes for Luuk de Jong from Twente, who sneakily got better than his brother at Ajax. The real discovery is Kevin Strootman though. Played at Sparta in the Dutch Championship a year ago, moved to Utrecht, got selected for Holland, moved again to PSV and plays for Holland as if he's done so for years. I'm calling it: he'll keep Nigel de Jong out of the squad at Euro 2012.
Defense still the big Dutch problem though. No big talents on the way there I believe.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 8 September 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago)
that's quite a call....i hope elia or somebody deposes kuyt from the starting xi by then, and hopefully strootman and someone else replace the horrible van bommel/de jong centre midfield too
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:14 (thirteen years ago)
OTM. Kuyt was dreadful last Tuesday, I didn't understand him at all. Not for the first time I got the idea he couldn't hack the pace at which the Dutch squad wants to play right now. It's like he doesn't understand the playing philosophy, which has been slowly built up to hyper-attack. He constantly sent the ball back, at times he stood right-back instead of winger.
Strootman/Van Bommel as midfield seems to work nicely though, much more play and insight than with De Jong. But then I've never been a fan of Nigel. Would be really glad if Strootman could keep this up. Van Marwijk has played with Van Bommel/Van der Vaart as well btw. I think VdV isn't in good shape lately but it still beats having Nigel there tbh.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago)
how about that luc castaignos, he the real deal?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago)
vurnon anita & wout brama are excellent names
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago)
charlton vicento!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago)
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Better names than players tbh. Nah, Castaignos, I have no idea tbh. Has left Feyenoord for Inter now, he's only 19, not eligible for the CL etc. I fear he'll go down the same path as Arnoutovic who left Twente for Inter some years ago, and was benched the whole season and left for Werder.I mean, Castaignos is 19. He's only played one full season in Holland. He's talented, no doubt, but I think he left way too early. Same as Macea Rigters, who's no playing ball in the second division here.
Vurnon Anita wont make it big. Brama is useful as back-up, but no more than that.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago)
MaceO Rigters, even
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago)
Settling down with PSV/Ajax this morning. I like Erikkson(sp?) who plays for Ajax I think, but in honour of LBI I will be supporting PSV today.
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 10:28 (thirteen years ago)
1-0 after 2 mins! Arsenal-esque defending from Ajax. Nice finish from the #9 Matavz
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago)
Aw Pandemic, thanks :-)
Matavz's first goal after a nicely one-touch flowing attack.
PSV are looking ok, Ajax still searching, but PSV are leaning back a bit too much for my liking at the moment, letting Ajax back in the game.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago)
Big congrats to Ludo for NAC's first win this weekend btw :)
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago)
No problem with liking Eriksen though, he's a class player and has been great this season. It's nice to see the playmakers duel in this match, Strootman (new Dutch international) and Eriksen. Both haven't been decisive so far.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago)
PSV look good when Toivenen is on the ballOoff yr goalie just got a wicked one on the head there. He won't continue I don't think. Roma's keeper got a similar one yday.
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:04 (thirteen years ago)
Roma goalie Dutch as well I iirc
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)
Oh man, that's a nasty clash ;_;
Yeah, Stekelenburg was unconscious yesterday after a similar clash.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago)
Khalid Sinouh his replacement, hehe. Isakson is injured, we only bought Sinouh as third keeper and controversial twitter guy..
Not looking good for Tyton... :-/
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago)
Ajax doctor lend his support just now. Not looking good at all, his neck/head needs to be stabilized.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)
yeah this looks worse than being 'just' knocked out.:(
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago)
The Ajax fans still seem to be having a good time :-(
I'm actually quite shocked by this. No idea how this will end. The PSV-players have grim expressions though
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago)
yeah it looks horrible. Worried for his general health and well being not just his football health as it were.
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
Indeed.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago)
Fifteen minutes of injury time
Fuck!
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago)
Bad defending but probably a push as well
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago)
Ugh... This could end in tears. Organisation in the defense is gone. Also, Marcelo, please git ta fuck
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago)
Tyton's been unconscious for a while, they stabilized his neck, no more news now.
― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago)
deffo pen
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago)
get in!been better this half
― pandemic, Sunday, 18 September 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago)
You'll be fine then, they don't have footy of their own anymore.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 19 February 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know, I believe Todmorden Borough FC have been killing it in division 2 of the West Lancashire League iirc
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
;)
West-Yorkshire is mostly ManU territory isn't it? :(
it's all whippet-racing & cricket aiui
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 19 February 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)
Been there many times before (gf lives there) but never really noticed a footy atmosphere, true.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 February 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)
Was at Leeds Bradford airport when PSV got a right drubbing against Twente today, PSV lost at home with historic figures: 2-6. So so glad I wasn't able to see it tbh. Dire.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 4 March 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)
Rutten OUT, Villas Boas IN
Watched that this morning LBI. Was wincing in sympathy throughout. Awful.
― pandemic, Monday, 5 March 2012 10:54 (thirteen years ago)
I've not had the stomach to watch it yet. Vexing deja-vu feeling though; PSV threw away the title in the last two years by disintegrating in the final third of the league. This is year is different in that the squad has susbtantially more quality players than last year, which makes it all the more frustrating.
PSV meanwhile are in a bind. Rutten is leaving the club at the end of the season. He failed to win a single prize in three years. The good games have been the best games in five years, but this also goes for the bad games who are the worst in five years. Higher highs and lower lows, the latter being unacceptable. But I don't at all believe in sacking Rutten now (though most fans and pundits are shouting off with his head) will sort any "shock-effect". It would be opportunist and irrational, but that's how football works iirc
AZ have played well all season, Twente are picking things up McLaren style (defensive, counter attack, not attractive but deadly effective), hell even Ajax are fully into it again. I can see either of them or PSV winning the league though, despite pundits shouting PSV are done for. The top six is still within 6 points of eachother:
Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS1 AZ Alkmaar 24 10 2 0 32 7 5 2 5 19 18 26 492 FC Twente 23 8 3 1 33 11 6 3 2 32 14 40 483 PSV Eindhoven 24 10 1 1 40 16 4 5 3 22 18 28 484 Ajax 24 6 4 1 31 13 7 3 3 32 20 30 465 Heerenveen 24 6 4 2 26 19 6 5 1 26 15 18 456 Feyenoord 24 8 2 2 27 12 5 3 4 21 19 17 44
Basically all of the top six will still face two or more top six clubs. But the Dutch league usually isn't won by winning against the big clubs, it's all about not losing to the small ones.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2012 11:45 (thirteen years ago)
ffs
oooh i def need to pay more attention the next two months.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 5 March 2012 12:00 (thirteen years ago)
i dreaded this bump. was even trying to think of a joke for LBI (i guess 'Rutten out' wouldn't have done it)
Villa-Boas in would be marvellous though, he might be too young for a true top team with stars, so a league like Portugal (or the Netherlands) would suit him a lot better + PSV does (or used to have) Brazilian/Latin-American 'connections'.
― Ludo, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:06 (thirteen years ago)
Poor Ludo, never dread a bump of this thread! Or did you expect me to be grumpy and annoying? :-)
VB in would indeed be marvellous. Shame it's never going to happen, but I think he could mold a nice team out of these players. I'm one of the very last apologizers of Rutten (have a soft spot for him) but if he got three years, VB should get double to prove himself in Eindhoven.
Oh shit I just realised that Rutten's head could roll next weekend when we are playing.... NAC Breda! :-)
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)
Now there's a bump you should dread Ludo ;)
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)
heheh. well i was grumpy myself, so...
after Verbeeks zillionth outburst I was thinking maybe that's the only thing to like about Rutten, he's quite the gentleman with referees. (iirc)
Verbeek on the other hand has got to be the biggest joke in that respect. Stuff like that makes me grumpy as well, the modern football trainer seems to think refereeing is a democracy. :)
― Ludo, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)
In the battle of LBI vs Ludo NAC just nabbed a v well worked third goal against PSV. They lead 3-1 with 35 mins to go.
― pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 12:48 (thirteen years ago)
Playing with a proper circa 1970 black and white paneled football as well.
― pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)
Ooh NAC down to 10 men, can LBI's boys stage a comeback?
― pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 12:53 (thirteen years ago)
Ah looks like PSV themselves were down to 10 men at the end of the first half (i've only been watching the 2nd) Wondered why they hadn't been dominating since the NAC red card.
― pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:18 (thirteen years ago)
NAC get a much needed victory in their relegation battle. As for PSV......
― pandemic, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:25 (thirteen years ago)
I turned on specifically for the ball, good to see it back with us. Also good to see LBI getting his comeuppance obviously.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:26 (thirteen years ago)
Lol IK :)
Props to Ludo and his NAC men to push Rutten over the edge. As much as I love the guy, there's no basis any more for him to stay. There's a press-conference in half an hour where they'll announce his sacking. Seems like Cocu will take over if I have to believe some 'insiders'.
Yesterday's match was just a culmination of everything that has gone wrong for some time now. PSV were clueless and had the shakes, were way too nervous to ever be able to win that match. That's why we need a new manager now, not because Rutten is so bad, but if he stays they'll play with this sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.
It's still entirely possible to end second and get that CL ticket. I'll refrain from saying they can also still become champions.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)
From flop to top! Shock effect sets PSV's eyes on the prize again! Cocubulous! :-)
PSV, in their first league game under new manager Cocu, resurrect with a pristine 5-1 win over Heerenveen today. Ajax cruise past rivals ADO Den Haag, while Twente suffer their third defeat in 7 days (not that McLaren had anything else to say than all his usual commonplaces) against Feyenoord. Leader's AZ lose two points drawing against Ludo's mighty NAC, who - in honesty - deserved to win it too.
Dis fucking league is hilarious this season. Still six clubs within 6 points at the top. Next week: Ajax-PSV!
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
Table:
| Home | Away Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS1 AZ Alkmaar 26 10 3 0 32 7 6 2 5 21 18 28 532 Ajax 26 7 4 1 34 13 8 3 3 34 20 35 523 PSV Eindhoven 26 11 1 1 45 17 4 5 4 23 21 30 514 FC Twente 25 8 3 2 33 13 6 3 3 33 17 36 485 Feyenoord 26 8 3 2 28 13 6 3 4 23 19 19 486 Heerenveen 26 7 4 2 30 21 6 5 2 27 20 16 48
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
Odd fact: Heerenveen have lost only 4 games this season, all with 5-1.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
yeah and a away AND home loss to PSV right? PSV would love to play Heerenveen all season long.
it's getting bizarre how Ajax manage to get in a crisis in the first half of the season, then make an amazing comeback. This has happened for like 5 seasons in a row. Irritating to say the least.
AZ will be punished for advancing in the EL. that's kinda sad, but will probably turn out to be true. Especially if they manage a decent home result against Valencia, and then go down fighting in the 2nd leg.
NAC pretty safe now, I feel, VVV were on a winning streak, but that's all over now, and NAC squad does have some potential and experience to finish like... 14th or something.
― Ludo, Monday, 19 March 2012 09:31 (thirteen years ago)
OTM Ludo, Ajax are creeping up the table so sneakily it's scary. Will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, Ajax-PSV. PSV have more quality players but I'm not sure if two wins against Heerenveen already strengthened them enough to win in the Arena.
NAC are safe, no doubt. It's weird to see players like Lurling and Boukhari still playing pretty well. Somehow it feels like they have been professionals for 30 years now, as if they've been around forever. Boukhari was a good deal for you lot I think though, he's playing better than I expected. Is there any money in Breda to buy some players this summer?
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 24 March 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
Negligent to the point of criminal defending from a short corner results in a cross which drifts into the top corner of the PSV net. Ajax 1-0. 30 mins to go. Oh dear LBI.
― pandemic, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:48 (thirteen years ago)
Peno to Ajax.
They score. De Jong. 2-0 and they've been all over PSV this half tbf.
― pandemic, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)
Finished 2-0 to Ajax, and that makes it sound closer than it actually was (at least in the 2nd half)
Commiserations to LBI.
― pandemic, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)
Is there any money in Breda to buy some players this summer?
nope. none at all. some kind of real eastate guy has just gone bankrupt, he was a major sponsor, so that's even léss money.
Lurling is a fine player, kind of irritating in a Von Boml way, but that's a good thing to have in your team. Boukhari should have stayed with NAC throughout his career, that's exactly his kind of club level.
PSV were shitty today, Ajax are pretty much unbeatable at home, even in bad seasons, and I give them an 85% chance to win the title after today. Crisis schmisis, only Cruyff thinks their youth system sucks, and we might begin to suspect that Frank de Boer is actually a fine manager. (Which is hard to believe, considering how the guy errrr errrr speaks.)
― Ludo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
only Cruyff thinks their youth system sucks
loool this fucking guy. didn't they spank barca's yt in the kiddie cl?
― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
This was a lifeless, soulless, passionless performance if I ever saw one. Dire and mind-numbing. First half both teams were quite bad, but the second half PSV seemed like they were on codeine. There was no incentive to win it, no drive. It would have been a shock if we've not seen this one time too many this season.
The odd thing is that from a defensive point of view this was one of the better games of the season. The midfield collapsed under the tiniest amount of pressure.
Ajax were not good, but ok in the second half. I think De Boer indeed is doing quite alright, considering the amount of injured players he has to deal with.
For PSV it's the fourth lost season, I think AZ or Ajax will win the league.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:58 (thirteen years ago)
seeing a bit of talk that newcastle are signing douglas from twente this summer. another great bit of toon business?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:09 (thirteen years ago)
this thread went dead silent after Ajax marched to their title, and not only PSV but áll the other point started dropping points like. i dunno.
anyway, Douglas has been faulty this season, maybe he's getting bored of Twente, i can see he needs a move and a club like Newcastle seems to be his level. but who knows, he could end up like Ronnie Stam (also from Twente, and from my hometown).
worst thing about Douglas is that our Brazil boy got a Dutch passport. He can have it, but international teams playing with Brazilians. yaaaaanw. It's so.. Belgian. (A running gag between me myself and I is reading Belgian tv text. Whenever there is an interesting foreign player in their league - without caps - within weeks some guy starts suggesting he needs a Belgian passport and the player declares himself 'honored' and 'willing to consider'. (And in the case of African players, ends up getting the passport)
― Ludo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
*teams*
checking my stats it seems Stam is actually pláying for Wigan. I thought he was on the bench.
― Ludo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)
In my defence Ludo, the thread didn't get silent because of Ajax walking it (although that would've been as good a reason as any), but mostly since I've not been on ilx for a long time :-)
So yeah, Ajax walking this. With 11 wins in a row you can't say they don't deserve it, although I still think they are playing intense mediocre football. But fair dues to Frank de Boer especially, he managed to come from 13 points behind AZ to 6 in front. No small feat, especially given all the injuries he had to work around.
Still five teams in competition for 2nd place (Champions League). Ofcourse I hope it will be PSV, if only for the money, but to be honest the way they are playing now they will absolutely bottle it and finish fourth, in whatever group they would end up. Since I'm in such a mild mood, I think AZ should get 2nd place. They played the best football for most of the season, I'd love to see Verbeek and his team give it a go in the CL. Would also not mind if Feyenoord had a go. I can only sincerely hope that it won't be Twente. Their play has been nothing short of appalling since McLaren came back.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
Oh, and Ludo otm about Douglas I think, he needs a new challenge. As long as he keeps his temper under control, I think Newcastle would be the best move for him.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
Welcome back!
― pandemic, Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:39 (thirteen years ago)
So I guess Ajax have pretty much wrapped this up.LBI - Any thoughts on Advocaat's return to PSV?Also is Luuk de Jong any good?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
Colin Kâzım, Kâzım or Kâzım Kâzım Apps GoalsFeyenoord (loan) 2014–15 13 7
Apps Goals
Feyenoord (loan) 2014–15 13 7
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 January 2015 10:54 (ten years ago)
Season statistics[edit]Top scorers[edit]Rank Player Club Goals
4 Dušan Tadić Twente 165 Michael Higdon NEC 14
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 January 2015 11:44 (ten years ago)
http://www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/27-football/951210-eredivisie-2014-2015?limit=20&start=120#991758
There looks like a fissure being opened up between the KNVB and Ajax over Jaap Stam. Stam, who don't forget is a high profile attendee at next week's congress has dropped out of the KNVB's elite coaching qualification citing "classroom anxiety". This was confirmed by Co Adriaanse, one of the course leaders in Zeist.
The significance of this is that you cannot coach at the highest level in the Netherlands without this qualification. The arguments are already raging online. Some (including De Telegraaf) argue that an exception should be made for someone of Stam's standing within the game. Stam has already proven himself to be an excellent coach as Art Langeler's assistant at PEC Zwolle as they led PEC to promotion and then consolidated the Blauwvinger's Eredivisie status. He's also made excellent progress as Ajax youth coach.
In addition (and this makes thing 4.2 million times more complicated) apparently Cruijff sees Stam as a successor to de Boer, once Frank leaves. A refusal by the KNVB to make an exception for Stam would be a victory for bureaucracy, the bean counters and the stuffed blazers who have never played the game in their lives.
On the other hand....should an exception be made for Stam, the Ajax haters ie the rest of the country combined, would see this as the usual "one rule for Ajax, another for the rest of the country" KNVB climbdown. It would not be accepted.
Don't be surprised if Stam doesn't turn up next Monday. This one is going to rumble on.....
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)
can our dutch lads shed some light on whats happened since, i can't find anything about this
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:49 (ten years ago)
dunno if LBI is still around or if anyone else has opinions, but Michael de Leeuw seems to be coming to Chicago from Groningen, I'm wondering if he's worth being at all excited about
http://www.fcgroningen.nl/home/nieuws/nieuwsbericht/artikel/michael-de-leeuw-vertrekt-na-dit-seizoen-bij-fc-groningen/
― pratt truss it (dan m), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 18:41 (nine years ago)
Hi Dan, mostly lurking but still around. De Leeuw had his mind set on a foreign adventure for quite some time now. Can't say he's the best striker in the league, but he's been pretty decent for a mediocre team. Strong with the head, keen clever striker, bit lazy in terms of defending and helping his mates out though. But that's also because he saw a transfer to Asia fall through earlier iirc. He just really wanted to leave Holland, think he's a p decent acquisition for you tbh.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 May 2016 15:17 (nine years ago)
My news of the day: Ajax - equally miserably and miraculously - failed to win at the second to last Dutch club. PSV champions on the very last day. Ya dancerrrr
http://trib.al/kRQhpTX
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 8 May 2016 15:23 (nine years ago)
Thanks LBI, that's about what I expected.
― pratt truss it (dan m), Sunday, 8 May 2016 20:07 (nine years ago)