vdv, sneijder, robben, van persie

Robben has made me happiest

What a preening, unpleasant bunch this is

Van Der Vaart, I guess...but holding my nose

vdv injured, brash, brilliant
robben injured, diving, brilliant
rvp injured, injured, brilliant
sneijder doesn't seem to be injured that much is he perhaps in the wrong poll?

Think we should guess at an alt-reality 'history of European football 2005-2011' in which Van Persie went from Feyenoord to Hamburg, Sneijder Ajax-Arsenal, Robben PSV-Real Madrid, and Van der Vaart Ajax-Chelsea.

Depends on what the question is tbh

rvp, robben and vdv would have been injured somewhere else, sneijder wouldn't have won anything

I mean they're all cunts in their own unique way. Not of John Terry is a cunt levels, but still.

VDV is probably the least cunty, yet also least talented
Robben can be a huge cunt but in an admirable, "hey i earned my right to be a cunt"-way, plus brilliant
RVP is... RVP. His self-cultivated but failing quasi zen-like self-image is adorbs. He's trying to be a good human being. It's sad he was an injured football player
Sneijder is a cunt and a chav and a greedy fucker and a bastard and hilarilolious but without a doubt the best football player of them all

are v talented dutch ppl

Let me start again

Dutch people who do well in life, do they struggle to be nice?

Can someone remind me which of them hates which of the others? If I recall you'd need a well-planned diagram.

they all hate the black players iirc

Is RVP-Sneijder the main feud? VDV I remember didn't get along with Zlatan but that's a different matter.

@Boxall, RVP and Sneijder do not get along, VDV and Sneijder are buddies but never fit well in the same team.

xp indeed

i smell a siiiiitcoooommmm!

It's not been a real feud as of late (and as of injuries of one or the other), but RVP and Sneijder have a past. Which mostly revolves around bickering about who can take a free kick

What about Robben, everyone's cool with him?

I think in technical ability I would rank them RVP>Robben>Sneijder>VDV. That might be harsh on Sneijder, I feel like at his best he's less flashy than the first two.

Hmm, for technical ability I'd rank them: Robben>RVP>Sneijder>VDV.

Doesn't seem harsh to me, it all depends if you rate flashiness over insight and mad passes

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OGzm8NyXcx8/TjCObqHwehI/AAAAAAAAAa8/XjHFALjhI8E/s1600/Wesley+Sneijder%2527s+tattoo+of+wife+Yolanthe+Sneijder-Cabau.jpg

yolanthe tatt is never not lol

probably the bangingest wag them of all though so fair play

cannot vote for wesley however due to suffering that terrible jpeg at the top of the epl thread for too long

vdv looks pretty shit in this company tbh

think i'll vote robben since absence has made the heart go etc

vdv had to be included cuz this was a kinda identifiable ~golden generation~ thing for a while, and he is very talented even if not a great player

i think robben probably is the most talented

13 jan 2005 – Martin Jol weet het zeker. 'Arjen Robben is de beste Nederlandse voetballer sinds Johan Cruijff'.

13 jan 2005 martun jol weet het zeker- "jermaine jenas is de beste englandse voetballer sinds bobby charlton"

The only way I can judge this is 'who would I want in my team most?'

By that logic: Sneijder > Robben > Van Rapist > VDV

taking injuries into account?

It's obviously Sneijder, come on.

i dunno, injuries apart robben is incredible

indeed

Yeah but Sneijder seemingly operates either at or near the top of his game for an entire season, whereas with most of these you're guaranteed maybe half a season of great play if you're lucky?

sneijder probably is the team sport connoisseurs choice but imo if you can't overappreciate a moody man running really really really fast and banging it into the goal then what's the point of anything tbh

yah voting for best injury record is like voting for dog breeds based upon longevity

not really, but in this non-real-world scenario it'll do

Sneijer is also the best player.

if injuries aren't a thing you could argue rvp tbh

true but the cantona thing at the weekend kinda made rvp's excellence boring to point out

still, 45 in 67 tho

surely gooners couldnt begrudge a man of his talent leaving to do something with his career at 28/29?

he's the only one of the four never to be on a league-winning side

was huntelaar ever considered part of this generation?

huntelaar has more international goals (and fewer caps) than all these guys. but only one at a major tournament.

KJH's the man you want in your team against San Marino, no question.

RVP>Robben>Sneijder>VDV

I would play any of these guys but Robben's the one whose play I've most admired.

v hard to compare creative midfielder to prolific winger tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHBX6svw6Dw

huntelaar was more like van nistelrooij (as many call him) in that he had no hype until he started scoring billions of eredivise goals, the others all had hype since they were academy prospects cuz they had mad skillz

it's a shame real's dutch project never resulted in them signing de jong

don't ramos and pepe cause enough trouble

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http://realmadrid200708.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/rafael-van-der-vaart-26.jpg

http://weblogs.vpro.nl/hollandsport/files/2011/05/wesley-sneijder.jpg

xp looool

Mebbe should have a Elia-Aissati-Afellay-whoever the 4th would be (wijnaldum?) for future lols.

Sneijder obv wins because of injuries but purely on talent I'd go Rvi robben sneijder vdv. VDV is the only one I don't think is incredible, just p good. If Messi didn't exist, Sneijder would have been WPOTY last jan IMO.

Lol you can write off Aissati, he's wasting away in Young Ajax at the moment. Together with El Hamdaoui he's been banned from the first team dressing room by coach De Boer.

I'd go with Strootman-Afellay-Wijnaldum-Van Wolfswinkel (where Afellay, as he's an 'arrived' player already, could be replaced by Elia)

Van Wolfswinkel is now straight in at the top of my 'please please please come to the Premiership' list.

Just for the name? :)

Seriously, he's surprising everyone here with how well he is doing. He just keeps on scoring, was voted best player of September of the Portuguese league. ManU keeps popping up as the club that is interested in him. Shame for him he's got people like Huntelaar and Van Persie in front of him. I actually think he is the next Huntelaar, possibly better.

Shame for him he's got people like Huntelaar and Van Persie in front of him.

... otherwise he'd be in the Dutch squad already I mean

if u want to imagine the platonic ideal of an arjen robben goal, chances are it looks a lot like the one he just scored against japan

I'm gonna picture it in my head. Right wing about 7 yards in from the touchline, left back tries to show him down the outside when Robben gets to about 3 yards outside of the box. Robben comes inside. CB moves across, Robben carries going across the box. Gets to 3 yards shy of the penalty spot and curls it left footed into the corner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH3be2dFkok

Ah, it was little bit better than I gave him credit for.

you were pretty close tbf

i'd've had him start further back but yep

I didn't post on this thread when it started 2 years ago, but if I had I think I would have severely under-rated Robben. He's way way better than I ever gave him credit for in his Chelsea/Madrid years. Either that or he's improved immeasurably which seems unlikely. NV always had his number I see.

13 jan 2005 – Martin Jol weet het zeker. 'Arjen Robben is de beste Nederlandse voetballer sinds Johan Cruijff'.

― nakhchivan, Friday, 21 October 2011 08:59 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

13 jan 2005 martun jol weet het zeker- "jermaine jenas is de beste englandse voetballer sinds bobby charlton"

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Robben's snottiness and the fact that he rarely "puts a shift in" have probably led to him being more overlooked than he shd've been, he'll almost never dominate a match but he will do the incisive stuff when it matters on a regular basis

He is one of my favourite players in world football, still.

he was untouchable the first six months at chelsea, cheat mode footballer

http://i.imgur.com/GFlYtkd.jpg

Robben's goal celebration fuck up today was classic.

ouuuuuch that looked hella sore