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― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
levy otm
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
Rafa in.
― Stevie T, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
only Rafa can take on this job
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
tho Trapattoni may be out of work in a couple of weeks
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
lol wtf is levy at?
interesting to see whether he goes for jol or rafa though.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
i can see dick advocaat getting the job for lols
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
deems seems to have taken the chelsea situation relatively well all told
rafa will be harder, sure, but he'll get there
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
i'd like to hear someone make a case for dick advocaat, even if they didn't actually feel he should get the job.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
advocaat is a damn good manager and an upgrade on redknapp
not as difficult as van gaal, not as venal as hiddink
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
is everyone agreed this is a bad decision?
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
.....?
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
i don't see any reason to think 'arry would've taken them further, could be on the brink of losing 2 or 3 big players, may've got greedy over his contract demands
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
id imagine levy will get someone better than redknapp
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
he hired paul stretford as his agent i thinkxp
― pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
seems incredibly risky when they already finished fourth with harry.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
guardian saying moyes
they finished last season with five points more than jol's team did in 2006
they had keane, jenas, mido rather than bale, modric, adebayor
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
I think if you're going to use dressing room uncertainty over your future to try and bounce Levy into a new contract you don't:
a) blow a 10pt lead over Arsenal and a Champions League spot through your own idiotic tactics b) do it after, erm, months of dressing room uncertainty over your future that you've said is absolutely not affecting the players c) do it the week after Levy's mum has just died
No way was Harry going to take Spurs any further. A better manager would have had a proper shot at the title with that squad. Levy OTM.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:01 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
signed up til 2014 :(
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
a,b,c OTM therexp
― pandemic, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
3 mil severance package, which after tax comes to 3 mil
― ༼◍ྀ ౪ ◍ི ༽ (cozen), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm, already saw that one somewhere else
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
jeez, commiserations
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
A better manager would have had a proper shot at the title with that squad.
expectations through the roof
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
This could quite easily end up with us in 12th next season but I'm still happy to see Harry gone.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
levy is a tough cunt and itn't exactly going to be frightened of the press corps' finest having him in their sights
martin samuel, oliver holt, brian woolnough, neil custis will be waddling over to enic demanding recompense
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
Would Spurs take a punt on AVB? Martinez? ... Van Gaal? Glad LFC got Rodgers sorted before this tbh.
― Stevie T, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
has 'arry been interviewed driving slowly past ssn offices yet?
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
martinez in.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
waiting for latest update on the spurs situation from dave whelan
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
Just need Swansea to appoint Laudrup and that leaves him with no options in the Prem. So presumably the media awaits?
― William Bloody Swygart, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
UAE
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
Charles Green might give him a warchest for Rangers
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
neutral on this, think he' have stayed would he have taken the contract dispute a little more seriously.
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
Good ol' BBC:
Redknapp left for Pompey's bitter South Coast rivals Southampton in 2004 but returned to Fratton Park in December 2005.
And in the interim, nothing happened.
― William Bloody Swygart, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
please let it be moyes.
― Chris, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
although dmac's reaction if rafa gets it would be just as amazing.
― Chris, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
honest to christ Rafa In might be the best long-running fun generator in ILF history
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
neutral on this
same
expecting a p big nosedive this season whoever's in the seat but someone who implemented a halfway sensible squad rotation policy and kicked players' arses into playing in positions that actualy worked that would be something
― geezargh butlargh (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
8th, 4th, 5th, 4th was kind of unimaginable from the position he inherited (4pts adrift at the bottom of the table) - all about managing expectations, victim of his own success etc but seriously the guy has been mostly brilliant for Spurs. He might not be able to take them any further but I'm not sure anyone can take Spurs higher than 4/5/4 given their wage structure and the wealth of the opposition. Sure he should have finished 3rd this season but falling one league place is hardly a complete failure when you look at e.g. the Blackburn and Villa squads. Chelsea winning the CL made it a whole lot worse I suppose but that's not Harry's fault - that useless cunt Guardiola cost Harry his job.
― hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
Matt DC otm about Harry's ridic bargaining position though - using the one thing you've been denying all season as your key selling point isn't going to fly.
― hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
Redknapp didn't inherit THAT hopeless a cause, he inherited a talented if unbalanced squad that was underperforming badly. Most competent managers who spoke the same language as most the players could have taken that squad into midtable I reckon.
I don't think anyone expected us to push on and get fourth but Martin Jol had still managed to get 5th twice in a row not long before.
Yes last season was still fourth which would have been enough/more than enough in previous seasons, and yes if Messi had converted his penalty then Spurs would be in the CL. But saying "that's not Harry's fault" glosses over the mistakes he made:
- Not rotating enough in the first six months meaning key players were knackered in the spring- Allowing key players to play out of position where they were less effective- Letting a load of useful squad players go in January and then complaining about having a small squad- Allowing himself to become over-reliant on defenders in their mid-30s with horrible injury records and no pace (see above)- Leaving us in a position where we didn't have the personnel to play the system we did when certain players were injured (Lennon in particular) and not being flexible enough to change that- Offloading back-up fullbacks so the ones we had played every game and got knackered- Getting his tactics wrong a bunch of times, chiefly taking off defensive midfielders when teams were over-running us in central midfield
And that's without even mentioning England.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
I will never forget that 18 months of amazing football around 2009-2011 though and for that thanks Harry.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
agree with all of that from matt/ onimo, and it is v much worth stressing that the gap btwn third and fourth this year was cl qualification. in that he was unfortunate, in one way, but given the way the season played out there really wasnt anywhere else to look when levy asked the hard questions.
if he hadnt tried to bullshit the answers via the press he'd maybe still have the job.
hell of a fall from grace from jan
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
I also think Harry got drunk on the astonishing football that team were playing up until about December last year and frankly so did I and so did a lot of Spurs fans but his job is to contingency plan and he didn't do that, in fact he did the opposite and weakened the squad.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
Fwiw I reckon the chances of Moyes turning down the job are pretty high given how supportive Kenwright has been to him and a lengthy search for a manager is the worst possible outcome given the unsettled nature of a lot of the squad. But OTOH is Moyes really does see himself at Old Trafford in the future he'll need a stepping stone at some point, so I dunno.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
Man U aren't choosy really - got the last guy from Aberdeen.
― hipster Jubilee party (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
moyes is going to arsenal after next season anyway
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 14 June 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
"We finished fourth and were unlucky at the end, but I think the same outcome would have happened," Redknapp said on BBC Radio Five Live.
"It's always disappointing but that's football," added Redknapp. "The people who run the football club have to make decisions that they think are right and that's their decision. You know I abide by it. I don't spend my life holding grudges, thinking about what could have been. That's life, we all move on.
"The only disappointment is that I think it's a team that could have gone on and won the Premier League in a year or two and I just wish I had been able to see that through and be a part of that."
He added: "What's happened is that I've met with my chairman and the club has decided that it wants to go in a different direction with the manager. That's their decision.
"I've had four fantastic years at Tottenham - I've absolutely loved every minute of it. It just couldn't have gone better for me: the football we played, and finishing fourth a couple of years running, fifth the other was year was great. So I was lucky.
"The fans have just been amazing for me, the support I got at the football club when things were difficult this year, I will never forget that, the way they treated me, they were special, so I've got some great memories."
― mizzell, Thursday, 14 June 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
lol bbc have interviewed him out his car window. 'fit as a fiddle' and 'nowhere near the end of his career'.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Would love to see him swap with Moyes to see how they compared with each other's resources but I can't see Harry going up norf.
― "What a book!" Terry Bland (onimo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
Daniel Levy entered the meeting on Wednesday that ultimately ended Harry Redknapp's reign as Tottenham Hotspur manager with no intention of sacking the 65 year-old.
telegraph report starts with this big statement but doesnt get round to fleshing it out
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 June 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
Odds on Moyes out to 4/1, odds on AVB in to 5/4. Not that the bookies necessarily know much more but it's quite a shift in the last few hours.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
it's almost as if the bookies odds were basing the odds on fleecing twitter rumour mongs rather than insights into the interior lives of daniel levy and joe lewis
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
-1 odds
― too cool graham rix listening to neu (nakhchivan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
it makes perfect sense that betting wld go with how people are saying 'x is totally going to y dude' tho, its abt chasing conviction and they'd prefer everyone to bet on avb and actually have it be david ginola who only 1 crazy stalker had bet 50p on unknowing
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Friday, 15 June 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
They generally get it right eventually e.g. Brendan Rodgers' odds coming way in the last 24 hours before the story broke. But until then it's just about the whim of a board, or in this case one guy - not the kind of information you can crowdsource, which is what the bookies are really useful for.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
The idea of playing an AVB-style high defensive line with our current back four puts the shits up me.
― Matt DC, Friday, 15 June 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
i know, good innit. fingers x'd!
tbf to the bookies this one pretty much is a toss-up far as i can see. moyes, avb, maybe van gaal, maybe deschamps? none is a slam dunk for the mystical "taking it to the next level" oasis
would think levy is unlikely to go for a low/favre/de boer type no matter what their cv after getting fingers burnt with santini/ramos
― r|t|c, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
favre does sound dope tho
― r|t|c, Friday, 15 June 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
was favre actually linked? that would be interesting i think
― mizzell, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
gazzetta dello sport saying it's AVB
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
wd take that.
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 June 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
Would help with player retention I think but we'd need to buy a new defence pretty quickly.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 17 June 2012 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
can imagine him trying for rolando from porto, think they would be happy to get rid for a reasonable fee and he's a fast, epl ready covering cb you could play behind kaboul or dawson
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
we need to buy a new defence p quickly anyway tbh. still missing the fit ledley figure, though kaboul and dawson each good enough as partners to that guy
― irrational angst that makes me innocuously thingy (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 June 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
Vertonghen seems to still be on-course as well despite the many factors that should have put him off by now. Plus we'll have Caulker next season as well.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link