Irish Independent top Irish soccer players of the last 50 years

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Poll Results

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25.ANDY TOWNSEND 5
3.PAUL MCGRATH 3
1.PAUL MCSHANE 2
4.LIAM BRADY 1
41.GARY KELLY 1
13.MARK LAWRENSON 1
10.KEVIN MORAN 1
11.SHAY GIVEN 1
38.KENNY CUNNIGHAM 0
37.TONY CASCARINO 0
36.TONY GALVIN 0
35.CHRIS MORRIS 0
34.CHRIS HUGHTON 0
33.SHAY BRENNAN 0
32.PADDY MULLIGAN 0
31.JIM BEGLIN 0
39.KEVIN KILBANE 0
40.JIMMY HOLMES 0
50.MICK MEAGAN 0
49.FRANK O NEILL 0
48.TERRY CONROY 0
47.RAY TREACY 0
46.JOE KINNEAR 0
45.JOHN SHERDIAN 0
44.MATT HOLLAND 0
43.STEPHEN CARR 0
42.GERRY DALY 0
30.STEVE FINNAN 0
29.KEVIN SHEEDY 0
28.STEVE STAUNTON 0
15.CHARLIE HURLEY 0
14.DAVID O LEARY 0
7.FRANK STAPELTON 0
12.DAMIEN DUFF 0
9.TONY DUNNE 0
8.ROBBIE KEANE 0
6.DENIS IRWIN 0
5.RONNIE WHELAN 0
16.RAY HOUGHTON 0
17.STEVE HIGHWAY 0
18.NOEL CANTWELL 0
27.JOHN ALDRIDGE 0
26.ALAN KELLY SNR. 0
24.NIALL QUINN 0
23.MICK MCCARTHY 0
22.RICHARD DUNNE 0
21.JOHN O SHEA 0
20.PACKIE BONNER 0
19.DON GIVENS 0
2.JOHN GILES 0


r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago)

HANG ON A MINUTE.

I NOTICE A PROMINENT OMISSION HERE.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago)

"Irish"

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago)

mcshane

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago)

we regret to announce that due to an unfortunate subbing error roy keane has been listed as paul mcshane

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago)

no Doyler = a disgrace tbh, he mayn't be top rank but he's worth a place above a bunch of these

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago)

TONY CASCARINO <------- been proven he isn't Irish? Or any good?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago)

irwin was obv brilliant but that seems a bit high. given has to be top five, a veritable jesus on the cross, tortured by the romans of mediocrity.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago)

Awww man I was hoping they'd deliberately left him out in some stale fit of pique.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago)

Oh hold on, that's list is in order?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago)

how is robbie keane so far ahead of say, john aldridge?

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago)

I will admit to not having remembered who Paul McShane was until googling him. I sort of assumed he was from the 70s or something.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago)

I read this as: "What number do you get to before you start thinking 'hang on, this really isn't a deep well at all'?"

21. JOHN O SHEA

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago)

i think the "correct" answer here is probly Liam Brady but i dunno if i want to vote for the correct answer

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago)

is this for ireland or in their careers?

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago)

despite the obvious risk of this unfairly boosting his stats, votes for keane if felt sufficiently strongly will be counted under mcshane

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago)

he's been hated for years here, how have you missed him? did he even make the dmac vendetta poll in the end? the only poll mcshane should have topped is the deems vendetta poll.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago)

Hate to say it, but this gives the impression Ireland aren't that good at football

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago)

voted given

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago)

How is Brady regarded in Ireland? I can well see him being the kind of fancy-dan who gets shunned by his homeland.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago)

Phil Babb is another massively unjust omission imo

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago)

mcshane makes the dmac vendetta poll, international version, which trap wins

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago)

this thread has taken certainly got our attention.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago)

international defender paul mcshane

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago)

it's a sad day when you think about great icons of your nation's team and say: "mark kinsella was robbed"

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago)

http://www.independent.ie/sport/roy-keane-voted-greatest-irish-footballer-of-the-last-50-years-by-irish-independent-panel-3315427.html

The process to identify the outstanding performers recognised achievements with both club and country.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago)

agree its more interesting read nationally tho

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago)

brady's a legend, tho i know of very little that he did internationally, tbh. Likes gilesy, really- their club success will have to do, we weren't really a platform at the time

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago)

Voted Kevin Moran in honour of the outrage when he got sent off in the cup final. iirc in 1985 that was the worst thing any footballer had ever done.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago)

was chris morris actually good? i was pretty young then but my memory of him is that he wasn't at all. mcateer probably deserves to be in this.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago)

No, he wasn't.

Ireland must have had some good players in the 50s and 60s?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago)

feels like they just make up 10 or 12 of these cos there weren't enough players.

"shay mulligan, gerry daly, pat irishman, fintan flood, tadhg o'rourke... etc"

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago)

club and country, it's probably roy keane.

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago)

if we're talking the actual list it's definitely roy keane.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago)

feels like they just make up 10 or 12 of these cos there weren't enough players.

"shay mulligan, gerry daly, pat irishman, fintan flood, tadhg o'rourke... etc"

― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:03 (1 minute ago)

lol

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago)

morris was rubbish, john sheridan was rubbish, townsend was rubbish

I'd already a fully developed crank persona aged nine

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago)

assuming that's sarcastic xpost

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago)

Kevin Sheedy flicking the Kop the Vs is undeniably classic

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago)

no

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago)

why would it be sarcastic?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago)

it reminds me of that garda twitter thing u did ages ago

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago)

Roy Keane's my favourite cos he's the right era, but tbh I feel like this is Keane or Giles or Brady plus the field.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago)

ah sorry, it's hard to tell with your curt style xpost

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago)

I'm voting for McShane and not Keane.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago)

the way completely generic names seem paradoxicaly unreal alway intrigues me

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago)

geoff mcilroy

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago)

Voted Brady

pandemic, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago)

damien o'driscoll

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago)

keane, brady, gils, mcgrath = a tier above the rest of them right?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago)

Roy Keane's my favourite cos he's the right era, but tbh I feel like this is Keane or Giles or Brady plus the field.

People rave about McGrath but they never showed enough English football pre-Premiership for me to judge

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago)

I remember Gerry Daly, he played for Man U in the 70s then went off to Derby.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago)

Roy Keane's my favourite cos he's the right era, but tbh I feel like this is Keane or Giles or Brady plus the field.

in terms of wider impact probably. for ireland specifically i think mcgrath and given deserve inclusion with those greats. whelan surely one of the few top technical players we've produced too, if not at keane level.

the way completely generic names seem paradoxicaly unreal alway intrigues me

am obsessed with this kind of thing. alliteration seems to make them funnier.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago)

don't want to be a mark hughesish booster of reputational bigness but i think keane's achievements probably raise him a bit above the other three

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago)

spent ages wondering how Tadhg Purcell was pronounced before i realised his name was misspelt in FM 2010

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago)

i know Keane deserves the nod but i feel like begrudging him the nod is what he'd want

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago)

don't want to be a mark hughesish booster of reputational bigness but i think keane's achievements probably raise him a bit above the other three

i think this too. don't even like him but he is like some totem of competitiveness and that was based on performances while he still played, rather than just bluster/hardman act.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago)

feel like ray houghton might've got a little stiffed here without knowing enough to properly judge

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago)

in club terms andy townsend was legit not to be sniffed at, true?

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago)

yeah i feel the same about houghton.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago)

Could almost get an LFC eleven out of that lot it feels like.

pandemic, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago)

stapleton and o'leary did it at club level too.

Houghton for the big occasion

Robbie for consistent goals, tho he's a toxic presence and has been for years

Mcgrath proper legend.

Given second to Bonner imo, but both top ten material

Richie Dunne an international level the past few years has earned a mention.

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago)

The Keane-in-Turin performance is mindblowing, and that's not even the one that gets the most praise

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago)

All the same I feel like Keane's a strange choice for a small country's greatest-ever; these guys are normally about quicksilver guile, glory and/or flakiness, rather than unyielding granite excellence. He'd hate to be in with the Dwight Yorkes, the Zlatans and the Jim Baxters.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago)

isnt it?

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago)

Isn't Keane-kills-Overmars supposed to be his crowning glory?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago)

rep for the nice guys of the mccarthyite era, quinny holland, kinsella and cunningham, very good players perhaps underrated between the heroes of the charlton era and the golden generation of duff and keane and er

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago)

"A limited skill-set but his heart and desire could never be questioned"

^ article's touching tag line for kevin kilbane

r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago)

great player for us, the anti-mcgeady

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago)

"A limited skill-set but his heart and desire could never be questioned"

^ article's touching tag line for kevin kilbane

i know, loved this bit. like his epitaph.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago)

three heads

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago)

he was shit at left-back though, to be fair.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago)

true but he fuckin showed up anyway

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago)

Alridge 10X player Robbie Keane was, reduced to headless chicken role under Jack unfortunately

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago)

aldridge was a vg finisher but i really don't recall much of him besides tbh

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago)

My dad used to love Steve Heighway, as a university-educated footballer, but he never gets a mention nowadays.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago)

All the same I feel like Keane's a strange choice for a small country's greatest-ever; these guys are normally about quicksilver guile, glory and/or flakiness, rather than unyielding granite excellence. He'd hate to be in with the Dwight Yorkes, the Zlatans and the Jim Baxters.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:40 (3 hours ago)

ibrahimovic is better than you realize but even if you want pure brutal efficiency then GUNNAR NORDAHL

1949–1956 	Milan 	257 	(210)
1942–1948 Sweden 33 (43)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I don't think Baxter eclipses Dalglish or Law either, but for the purposes of that post it's all Rene Higuitas and Georgie Bests.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago)

chilavert
arshavin
kinkladze
valeron

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago)

there's a thread idea i guess....

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago)

i know Keane deserves the nod but i feel like begrudging him the nod is what he'd want

This made me guffaw btw, it's truth-on-a-stick

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago)

"Best player in the world, they said. Praising. Exaggerating. Raising you up just to knock you down. I walked into the Sheraton at Manchester airport and punched a child in the face, then phoned Con O'Rourke to arrange a taxi."

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago)

I liked Chris Morris back in the day, but I've always had a soft spot for underappreciated full backs. He makes pasties now, you know.

ailsa, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago)

glasgow's own ray houghton for me.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago)

for completely bullshit,sentimental reasons.

tell it to my arse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago)

nah ray is a fuckin legit as fuck choice imo jim, certainly on the international front!

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago)

two of the biggest goals we ever got.

mcateer was robbed not to be in this btw.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago)

absolutely huge goals they were

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago)

mcateer was rubbish for a long time besides the odd goal, tho

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago)

ray houghton, verging on world class. annoying as fuck pundit though

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago)

houghton v italy probably the earliest goal i can remember

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago)

my brother was at that game, lucky bastard!

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago)

big standoff between micks and guidos in LI after apparently haha

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 24 December 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago)

will ye have a kinsella

torn between Carl Jenkinson, Scott Walker and Malcolm X (once a week is ample), Monday, 24 December 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago)

didnt i mention him already? consider him in the same grouping as holland et al above

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Monday, 24 December 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago)

It's the end of the world, 3 days late.

Merry Fucking Christmas.

pandemic, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago)

lmao <3

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DVAUMY

r|t|c, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago)

ach ye cunts

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago)

http://www.davidmcdonaldspage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Worzel-Gummidge-460_802674c.jpg

banlieue jagger (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

Still pissed tbh

dub job deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 01:17 (eleven years ago)


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