which more likely iyo

Cards on table straight away- far more likely lfc get top 4 imo

purely on the odds Liverpool top 4 ought to be "more likely"

and yet

i feel like Liverpool's current position flatters that team a bit - not a great team by a long way yet, just a team with a couple of exceptional players. i think Rodgers will continue to steadily improve them but i think there's a ways to go before they have a truly competitive midfield for example

whereas I feel with Arsenal that they may well be able to strengthen just enough in January to push on and win the title, and that nobody around them is mounting a credible challenge, so

still Liverpool top 4 finish. just.

I think both will happen unless Suarez is sold in January.

They should both happen, but both might not. It's a good question because they're about equally likely I reckon.

I'll say Arsenal more likely, on basis that we're not actually that good. We can click and purr in most games, but a little bit of pressure and it's anyone's - even yesterday there were 15 mins in the second half where it could've gone either way. It's all a bit contradictory really - the defence looks shaky regularly but it doesn't actually concede much, the defensive midfield looks weak but we have little trouble with possession. Attack seems sorted even with Sturridge out. We shouldn't really be second.

After Arsenal's next few games we'll know. Chelsea is the key one i feel - if they get bullied it'll be up for grabs again.

A Chelsea implosion would shift the odds on both of these, but that's still just a hunch.

If LFC buy Cabaye in Jan they'll finish top 4. Think it would take Pelligrini doing a really bad job for City not to win the league. Hmm, I'm torn. Voting Arsenal to win the league which I'm okay with as long as I stay away from Arseblog cos' whenever I read it I come away wanting them to be relegated.

Has Cabaye even been linked? I'm not aware. Paul Pogba would be my dream signing. Or maybe nipping in to steal Herrera just for the hell of it.

Joe Allen was very tidy yesterday

Cards on table straight away- far more likely lfc get top 4 imo

― mind totally brown (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 December 2013 02:55 (13 hours ago)

yeah who knew, the thing that the bookies rate as twice as likely to happen as the other thing is, in deems' estimation, more likely to happen

i could def see both these things happening tbh

if i meant twice as likely id have fucking said it wouldnt i

Which is more likely: Liverpool to finish top two or Everton to finish top four?

Obviously the latter. No particular reason why Everton shouldn't finish top four. Probably four teams in it for fourth, if you lot can rouse yourselves.

just a lack of depth like naismith jelavic etc if lulaku mirallas etc get injured, whereas tottenham are playing their equivalents of naismith and jelavic and still keeping up, just about

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Heh, remember those days?

they were something

but it was a good season other than spurs

we shall not see it's like for a while maybe

gonna let it sick in before we start polling questions about reversion to the mean, that article somebody posted elsewhere about Liverpool having a statistically exceptional conversion rate this season was interesting for a start

"sick in" = a testament to the morning i've had

everything but the kitchen, sick

gonna stick my neck out and guess that Wenger will learn nothing, Arsenal will fail to strengthen in the necessary areas and they'll flamboyantly wind up fourth again but this time the end of somebody's line will've been reached

on paper Arse seem most vulnerable - more so than Liverpool maybe - to being displaced from the top 4 and yet

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