CocoRosie member goes to "Kill Whitey" Ironic dance parties and gets called out by brainwashed.com as racist

CocoRosie made Uncut magazine's list of top 50 albums for the year.

From the Jonathan Dean, Brainwashed piece:

"While reading the article, I came across this particularly heinous quote from a typical, post-ironic urban hipster trust-fund baby:

'[Bianca] Casady was raised in Santa Barbara, Calif., but quickly notes her worldliness by listing the cities where she has lived along the trail to Brooklyn. A regular Kill Whitie partygoer, she tried the conventional (that is, non-hipster) hip-hop clubs but found the men "really hard-core." In this vastly whiter scene, Casady said that "it's a safe environment to be freaky."'

Who do you think that could be making such horrifyingly non-worldly, ignorant and racist generalizations about black men? Surprise! It's none other than Bianca Casady, one-half of sister duo CocoRosie, whose debut album won them high praise from Pitchforkmedia and The Wire, and whose recent album, Noah's Ark, was called "hypnotic" and "angelic-sounding" by Allmusic.com. My recent review for Brainwashed noted that the album sounded like "a collection of willful, calculated eccentricities clumsily juxtaposed with each other."

One of the CocoRosie girls goes to a racially insensitive party!!!!! Scandal!!!!! I can't wait for the somethingawful.com take on this!!! whats the blogosphere have to say?

Get your ass the schwippy the fwap out of here.

They give a lot more leeway to the likes of DIJ and Boyd Rice. But then they're 'serious' industrial artistes dealing with the themes the straight world finds shocking. And big tough guys.

what a shitty article, also obvs this guy as an axe to grind with the Coco girls, check the link to a previous Coco hate screed (this time about how they rip off Dresden Dolls). I can just picture this guy in his unlit basement apartment pacing around coming up with this stuff

Now I don't even like CocoRosie, but finding a regular hip-hop club intimidating (I'm presuming it has more to do with sexism than race btw, although it's hardly spelt out as such) but not finding a hipster equivalent the same = non shocker.

You could make the same assumption about Jamaican Dancehall vs. a Hollertronix party and still be TOTALLY missing the point.

Ellen Allien's said in interviews that she used to go to hip-hop clubs before getting into techno because (aside from digging the music) she didn't get strangers grabbing her behind at them. So, does that make her a racist when she's hanging out with Mad Mike and releasing Kero 12"s on her label?

This is totally more of a sex/class/musical culture issue than outright racism (although it's certainly a factor, but not the whole story).

This sounds like the worst thing

THe thread title is very vague, so newbies to this whole story are not to be blamed for missing it the first time, or not finding it via search..

but please read this, before fortifying another major deja vu thread.

I see that as a bit different. I haven't heard the song, but I don't know what context the word is in. To outright say any white artist who uses the n word is racist is a bit off.

The Brainwashed article is clearly writen by someone who was waiting for CocoRosie to slip up so he could say "SEE, I GAVE THEM A BAD REVIEW WHEN THE ALBUM CAME OUT! LOOKS LIKE BAD PEOPLE MAKE BAD MUSIC AND I WIN ON ALL COUNTS!"

He also brings up HUGE topics and barely deals with them. Don't bring up something like post modernism being the death knell of culture and only mention that you heard it from some neo-Marxist.

And yes, the "dumb rich white girl doesn't really get it" angle was downright offensive in its own way.

I'm presuming it has more to do with sexism than race btw...

http://www.rarebeatles.com/sheetmu/solo/ssmjnigg.jpg

i am sure every city in america has a party like this. the one i used to go to was called "booty bassment". the only difference aside from the name was that they didn't hand out a discount for bringing a fucking bucket of fried chicken (tasteless!) and the DJs didn't act and talk like total asses.

curmudgeon high on crack on the subject of whether brainwashed liking or not liking hiphop has fuck-all to do with anything

Banana Nutrament (straightup@gmail.com), November 6th, 2005.

That's not what I said, Banana.

Wait, is that true?! I've never been the clubbing type (I don't think I've been to a dance club in the last 11 of my 29 years), so forgive me if I seem like a complete naif for being shocked at this. But I am. Men pull their dicks out on the dancefloor? Routinely?

I've been missing out! (kidding). That's fucking awful.

Also yes, there is something so gigantically stupid and bizarre about saying the hipsters at Williamsburg parties are going to become "captains of industry." They're in their late twenties -- if they were ever going to do something beyond live in crappy lofts and play in bands, chances are they'd have gotten started on it by now. The bulk of them will get office jobs like everyone else, and the rest will wind up making cabinets or repairing amplifiers or running record stores or becoming publicisists.

shh nabisco you'll get in the way of the incipient class rage, how we gonna have a revolution without the class rage

E.g. I don't think it's coincidence that constant anti-hipster sneering (usually Williamsburg-related) coincided with the explosion of internet culture-talk: suddenly you can have bloggers with no significant experience of a particular hipster spot or place or scene who can look at the pictures and read about it in record reviews and develop some bizarro fantasy of a whole neighborhood of trust-fund racists with Flock of Seagulls haircuts doing coke all night and feeling superior to everyone. All shit that might, in some extreme instances, kinda vaguely trend toward certain realities, but it's still totally bizarre. Weirdest of all: the way "Williamsburg" become shorthand for NYC hipsters has created this class of people elsewhere who actually think it's a full-neighborhood hipster-trash party, despite the reality that Williamsburg looks and feels not that incredibly different from any "hip" younger neighborhood, anywhere, from San Francisco to Chicago to Philadelphia. That "captains of industry" line in particular is just kinda like ... well, this person's understanding of what he/she is talking about is massively divorced from reality.

How dare you say that about Costa Mesa.

I knew I'd be on the cutting edge of hip one day.

I'm gonna keep trying to convert this into a positive thread promoting good music. I'm sure a lot of people here have heard this comp, but this song in particular always stuck with me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwbPvCWYYao

Big Buck Hunter omg kate!

Little BigHouses for you and me.

That big houses song reminds me of Bette Davis’ I’ve Written a Letter to Daddy

Buffy Sainte Marie is actually just italian and apparently not at all indigenous.

https://media.tenor.com/v8S_osquXPIAAAAM/speechless-steve-harvey.gif

Lol

Why put tuneyards in there? Was there some appropriation issue with her? I’m not a fan particularly but have seen her open for others a few times and found her fine.

People just dislike her even though afaik she has gone out of her way to cite her sources of inspiration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ-6a5cJGKc

BigHouses what is the lineage of your favorite musician? don't tell us who it is tho, we have to guess!

which people alive today would create the ideal musical babies??? i am v. excited at the possibilities of breeding the best people with each other to produce superpeople. we can call it "good-genics" and get lots of clever doctors, scientists, and even politicians involved!

which people alive today would create the ideal musical babies???

Matt Pike and Kim Deal

Lol whoever added that new board title

HAHAHAHAHH

Brightblack Morning Light is going down

To the guillotine with Bonnie ‘Prince’ Billy.

All I wanna do is clutter this thread with good music made by people with no money tbh

i stand with big house and applaud them for uncovering the dark agribusiness roots of cocorosie

lmao I salute the moderation team

new board seems mean spirited to me (not to CR fuck them but to a new poster that probs didn't get what this place was and now has a whole board clowning them)

honestly I just feel like this is just a revival of the 'gaz coombes' clowning of several years ago, it's kinda morphed into a whole new thing

dude is gonna think that BigCoco wiped away all that truthtelling they did on this thread when they see that its gone from ILM.

honestly I just feel like this is just a revival of the 'gaz coombes' clowning of several years ago, it's kinda morphed into a whole new thing

funniest thread revive in years

14 years on the Grey Oceans album cover remains the worst album cover of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2o_dRvpBYE

CocoRosie drops another TERF track.

what an extraordinarily shitty time for them to say a goddamn thing, aside from "sorry we were assholes before, protect trans people please"

and going by the new album cover they still have *complicated thoughts* abt black people. super cool. really rooting for them to figure out black people someday.

what did they say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6krhvLgPRg

Who’s ready to scratch chin, steeple fingers?

what did they say?

hipster edgelord nothings per usual while the world is fucking burning

In that TERF interview from a year or two ago, Bianca talked about wanting top surgery but "chose womanhood" instead or whatever. This is about as surprising as a gay religious Republican saying he overcame homosexual temptation. Why Bianca is choosing to make her (his?) problems the world's problem in the midst of the Trumpocalypse / general rising global fascism rather than just going to therapy, I do not fucking know. Maybe therapy is another patriarchal Big Pharma conspiracy. Bianca is 43. Fucking embarrassing that she/he hasn't sorted out his/her shit yet.

we're still doing this eh

all the hours and hours of actually interesting and probably great music we nominate in our annual tracks/albums polls and we're still doing this

just for that little comment i'm gonna do it even more! but eh not really

yeah someday when i have a few years to kill i'll sift through the hundreds of posts in a year end thread to find 3 songs i like

all the hours and hours of actually interesting and probably great music we nominate in our annual tracks/albums polls and we're still doing this

Every house deserves both a living room and a toilet

new board description?

They could retire or even just evolve as human beings and artists. Until then, they deserve scorn.

yeah it's called being a hater and it is a valid lifestyle choice tyvm

btw BigHouses in your penultimate post you were kind of an ass re: gender dysphoria. if she's said she's she, she's she, end of. keep your focus, chief!

Meh. Sometimes the big house is made of glass. Or closet, in this case.

Sometimes a spade is a spade and an egg is an egg.

https://www.facebook.com/CocoRosie/posts/pfbid02tyJveNQGsgzmqfT1YkniGR1aPW4Yjk6NLSG6ndUdunDNjY672VRhfJb64F1UYXhol

"CocoRosie has always been an accomplice to and remains in solidarity with our queer and trans communities. Our art is in service to the beauty of the overlooked and mistreated and we will do all we can to remain tender and open hearted, to learn to speak clearly about our love for our trans communities currently under attack in this political upheaval. We will continue to listen to what is needed and practice active support for those we love in this moment of uncertainty. We are always here with you dear ones."

Ok

"we only wrote transphobic songs to draw the transphobes out of hiding so we could attack them!"

I mean, that would not be very surprising

Every cat post itt otm, shame to have to FP the architect of these revives.

i like to imagine dragons BigHouses doing this 16 hrs a day 7 days a week, their relentless dedication to exposing cocorosie's criminal empire leading them down a path not dissimilar to jake gyllenhall's in the film zodiac. they go to the library in cocorosie's hometown to peer at old microfiche. they visit the graveyard of cocorosie's ancestors to corroborate names & dates, perhaps getting trapped in a mausoleum overnight w/ a snooty agribusiness ghost. they connect with devendra banhart online and he has important evidence to show them; they show up to his house, he leads them down to the darkened basement, and just as the hairs on the back of their neck begin to rise -- !!! idk, a spooky glockenspiel track or whatever.

hi mousie, ilu 💖

o hai !
spooky glockenspiel track otm

Kitty cat, the Casady Mausoleum is at the well-known Woodland Cemetery in Des Moines. The cemetery's first intern is a Casady. The Casady dynasty built the city and many of their rich, anti-suffrage, Sioux-genociding ancestors are buried there, along with numerous others of the rich white Iowa elite. Not sure where the dead Sioux were buried. Probably left for crows.

Anyway.

What's a good name for their next album? Agrarian Gothic? Glockenspiel Graveyard? Ghost Farm? Sioux Blues?

incredibly bad taste to have ancestors in a fancy mausoleum, and insensitive given the current housing market! if those posers had an ounce of integrity they'd haul out their antecedents and dump the accursèd bones in a trash pit, then piss on them, them set them on fire, then convert the mausoleum into a tiny house, then write a song about it. smdh.

the craziest thing just happened btw, i was messing around with an online ouija board and a bunch of dead casadies busted in and called me a penniless hussy, it was awful, how did they know? BigHouses please get to the bottom of this.

Is that Mausoleum Rock, man? Well turn it up, man!