STOP MAKING NEW RECORDS THEY ARE DUMB AND TOO HEAVY AND THE CORNERS ARE SO SHARP THEY SUCK PLUS THE PLANET!!

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plus the spines are way too fucking big, they stick out like a sore thumb in any wall collection

YEAH! THAT TOO!

I have less of a problem with 90s and early 00s stuff being repressed if it wasn't release in quantity on vinyl in the first place.

But who needs a brand new pressing of Rumours when there are millions of them floating around? Idgi.

released

NO MORE NEW RECORDS>

NEW MUSIC IS OK BUT NOT PRESSED ON RECORDS.

Are tapes ok

yes

There is more demand for Rumours than supply of people trading in their vinyl copies. That's one of the best selling reissues.

WRONG THREAD

NO NEW RECORDS

(caveat: you seem relatively new here but this is how we roll on the sub-boards, no offense intended)

from now on anyone who wants a copy of Rumours has to wait for a boomer to die and enter a lottery to win their copy, sorry those are the rules

i'm not offended

“We've had 70 years of making records. Now, we sample them” - Mixmaster Morris

people can sing on the porch. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO PORCHES?????

here's what you do. get an old tape recorder. and an old tape. tape yourself or you and your friends playing music and then gather your friends and family together and you play the tape for them! that's it. you're done. so simple. even beyonce could do it.

(the town i live in has nothing but old houses with huge porches. i have lived here 14 years and i can probably count the number of times i have seen people hanging out on their front porch on two hands. maybe they are all on the back porch. feels weird though. don't even ask me about the front lawn. i don't think i have ever seen anyone hanging out on their lawn here. just mowing them.)

Anyway I agree with this, it doesn't even seem appealing to listen to new music on vinyl. Vinyl is for old music.

(except for Autechre, I get a truly perverse pleasure out of listening to Confield on wax, although that could be considered old music at this point)

electronic music on vinyl can be siiiiiiiiiick. they do it so good in germany. that's an existing form that has always done it. like rap or punk. i got no problem with hardcore genre people really. its everything else all fat and stupid and expensive.

(i mean everyone has been making records forever but genre people are good at providing meat and potatoes for their faithful. they aren't trying to sell big dumb birthday cakes to dopes. they are cool with their place in the cosmos. its a labor of love.)

idk I like listening to new music on vinyl, actually buying the record and putting it on leaves a much different first impression sometimes than just streaming it or hearing a leak. unfortunately a lot of new records are weirdly expensive now

definitely agree on electronic music sounding particularly good, especially stuff on that Aphex/Autechre axis. also the Haruomi Hosono records I have come alive in ways the MP3s definitely do not

at least stop making colored records

^^^

I bought fewer new records in 2023 than any other year since I started buying records. Probably going back to my high school days. I'm sure I bought fewer used records too. The cost is simply not worth it. I've been buying more cheap CDs lately. Just got mirror ball by Neil Young for the car, because my kid is really into him now. It's a great driving listen.

nothing says 'douche' more than owning a Dookie vinyl box set

Big recommendation for Kyle Devine’s Decomposed. The book is a short history of the physical and human toll of the music industry from the 19th century until now (the subtitle is “The Political Ecology of Music”). Reading it was enough of a perspective change that I’m righteously with the “STOP MAKING NEW RECORDS” campaign.

https://newbooksnetwork.com/kyle-devine-decomposed-the-political-ecology-of-music-mit-press-2019

Earth Rot picture disc reissue with booklet

nothing says 'douche' more than owning a Dookie vinyl box set

― calstars, Wednesday, September 27, 2023 2:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Dookie is the perfect album to have on CD, via the discount bins. i don't even mean that as an insult.

"Just got mirror ball by Neil Young for the car, because my kid is really into him now. It's a great driving listen."

I'M THE OCEAN.

some of these new heavy things really sound like CDs. and i wonder if people mix/master new vinyl to sound like that for people buying these things - most people over 30 buying these things - to mimic that sound? is that real? yes i know there are digital sources for a lot of new vinyl but they have that simultaneous bright/flat thing going on that really reminds me of a CD. and even if you have a digital source you can make something sound more analog or more digital for vinyl, no? i mean dance music on CD does not sound like a 12-inch of the same stuff. they boost bass. make it louder for clubs. and basically make it sound like a kickass 12-inch from days gone by. though i suppose that is an example of something with a utilitarian purpose. note: i am not a techie.

i picked up about 800 records from a guy last week and he had a ton of new stuff and i've been playing some of them. as always, records - and CDs and streaming sources, etc - are ALL case by case for me. i can't stress that enough. when people say - "well, records sound like..." no, no they don't. they are all precious snowflakes. some fancy new pressings are obviously designed to be played on million dollar stereos. one of the good things about buying stuff from this guy is that he also sold me a cool weird music hall turntable. ikura. look it up. its the only music hall that looks vaguely spaceship-like and has a weird double base thing that makes it kinda impossibly quiet which i am really into. they don't make it anymore. its cool. like, $1200 new? and he had one of those rad wood block grado cartridges on it and i am into that too. anyhoo i put on this, like, 800 gram reissue of Blue and it sounded wonderful but i know for sure if i had a rich guy system it would probably make me fall over and drool. and then some other stuff i played would sound like a CD. case by case.

here's the thing. a very clean original copy of Blue sounds awesome. again, even here, case by case. i wish there were a better term than "hot stamper" but those guys aren't completely wrong even if their prices were friggin' nutzo. they are too expensive now but worth owning. one of the thing i like about buying a bunch of nearly-unplayed newer stuff is that i am never tempted to keep them no matter now nice they sound. they are too easy too sell for $$. like cash in hand.

anyway, this guy i bought stuff from is way into Tidal now. he has a pretty sick set-up.

oh you say you like mono pressings from 1966, huh, turntable? duly noted. duly noted.

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keep up the good work

I think my conception of a "hot stamper" was distorted over time into meaning "before the stamper cooled too much". I see it refers more to a variation in stamper-to-stamper quality, which is much easier to accept. I'm sure a stamper can be fucked up during fab in many ways and that cutting the lacquer is itself a form of mastering that can change with equipment and personnel. Still, my (not unique) belief wrt all things audiophile is the benefit vs cost curve rolls off dramatically and you can save a ton of money and happiness by simply never exposing yourself to the rightmost end of that curve. I believe the rightmost end of that curve exists (it is not sasquatch), but it can also be unhealthy to pursue (a bit like sasquatch). This probably applies to most objects for sale to a degree and is a common occupational hazard for all who own shops that sell cool stuff.

rock audiophilia leads to saying things like “all those Beatles albums were recorded terribly, same for Led Zeppelin 4”

so many audiophiles prize "clarity" more than anything else. how quiet a pressing is. that crystal clear sound that is so inhuman in a way. its why so many of them flocked to CDs at first. this was it. the holy grail. no distortion. no noise. japanese vinyl pressings in the 70s and 80s were a search for that same ideal. which is why they started using digital technology for vinyl right before CDs. anything to get rid of any ambient noise/sound on a recording. music in a vacuum. my opinion is that they actually perfected this kind of sound in a much more full-bodied way with laserdiscs. laserdiscs sound amazing. and they had much more heft and bottom than CDs of that era. i actually like DVD-audio a lot. more than i like current vinyl pressings. i always go back to that interview i read with scott hull where he explained that vinyl suffers now because of the low runs they do. he said in the days when they cranked out thousands of records they would throw away the first couple of hundred copies because the machines hadn't warmed up yet! and now of course pressing plants do multiple orders a day where they press 300 or 400 copies of something. turning the machines on and off. getting more wacky colors out for the colored vinyl. its like a copy shop now. maybe new machinery is better for those low number runs. so many new records just FEEL like slapdash products sourced from digital files. but people used to computer sound are used to that. so, it works for them. someone who grew up listening to music on their phone or laptop isn't going to care what a new record sounds like. or even know how much better it can really sound.

I suspect that most new records are also being made from a more compressed waveform than was usually the case in the glory days of vinyl.