The thread for all things ebay. Crazy auctions, tips, bitching, moaning, LOLZ galore. Let's face it, whether you have a computer or not, Ebay changed the world forever for record buyers and collectors. If you were a shop owner you couldn't just throw that goofy looking 60's rock record in the bargain bin like you used to. Not if you had any brains. You had to look all that shit up. Ebay singlehandedly tipped the scales and changed the landscape and leveled the playing field. It is a thing of wonder and it is the devil.
As of this moment: dudes, It's still a buyers market. Stuff that used to sell for a hundred bucks five years ago is as common as dirt. You can get GREAT records for a song if you know what to look for. Heck, I bought a clean copy of the watts 103rd street ryhthm band debut (the one from 67. the hot heat one with the crazy cover) for six bucks last night. okay, fine, ten bucks with postage, but still...
― scott seward, Saturday, 18 July 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link
ebay is a great time killer anyway.
― ian, Saturday, 18 July 2009 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
you can say that again.
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 July 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
sometimes i remember that there are things OTHER THAN RECORDS on ebay, so i spend like three hours looking at lots of shitty sci-fi paperbacks.
― ian, Sunday, 19 July 2009 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link
wow:
http://cgi.ebay.com/78-RPM-RECORD-CHARLIE-CHRISTIAN-ACETATE-COLLECTION-1939_W0QQitemZ300329777203QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item45ed0cb833&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link
LOVE the level of detail in that description.
― ian, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
just bought a synth offa ebay from a guy in japan!!
― easily-led zeppelin (haitch), Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link
is the shipping a killer?
― ian, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:59 (fifteen years ago) link
not so much - partly because it's just a module with no keys. synth $540, shipping about $60. still a good bit cheaper than a local unit.
i have never looked for a record on ebay, i only joined last week! god this might get expen$$$ive.
― easily-led zeppelin (haitch), Sunday, 19 July 2009 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
ebay is a serious addiction.you just want to bid on all this stuff! cuz it's a game--you can literally win! so you want to keep winning. i binge, then feel guilty and don't buy anything for months. then i blow a hundred bucks in a week and a half .
― ian, Sunday, 19 July 2009 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I love ebay. for one thing, just for discovering new shit. I've made so many great finds through the 'view seller's other items'.
I came for punk and left with Bollywood.
And not even necessarily rare or difficult or underground stuff or whatever. just the millions of 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s pop records that maybe appeared in the ass end of the chart for a week or so and disappeared, which send you off to google and youtube. ebay + youtube makes for a great tagteam. that's when I thank these dudes posting voyeuristic videos of themselves dropping the needle onto a crackly 7".
― best "Courtroom/Lesbian Scene" titties (gnarly sceptre), Sunday, 19 July 2009 12:03 (fifteen years ago) link
wow, remember when i was rambling on at the top of this thread about ebay being a buyers market? this used to be a 50+ dollar record:
http://cgi.ebay.com/JIMMY-CASTOR-1967-SOUL-FUNK-GEM-LP-HEY-LEROY-WLP-NM_W0QQitemZ260444002895QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item3ca3ac1a4f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
― scott seward, Monday, 20 July 2009 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link
how long has this board been around? I must have missed the memo. never noticed it until now.
I haven't bought anything on ebay in ages but I just did a buy it now on a Canadian pressing of Pierre Henry "Le Messe Temps Present .. " (the one with Psyche Rock) for $9.99. Might not be strictly "original" original but I don't think it's a recent pressing. Before that I was watching another copy of the same LP that a guy had offered for set sale at $40, didn't get a buyer, put it on ebay and it only went for $21.50 (I was at $21 and got sniped). I thought that was a $50 record too ... and the guy doing the sale is a "name" crate digger guy with a big email list, his stuff used to always get bid up like crazy. So yeah I'd say prices are down.
― dmr, Monday, 20 July 2009 03:16 (fifteen years ago) link
just a few days, dave, no worries!
― ian, Monday, 20 July 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link
what about gemm.com?
I've found a couple of deals there. When I buy from there though it's usually a last resort for something i've been super keen on getting (eg Terminals' Touch)
― wilter, Monday, 20 July 2009 10:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Gemm's a bit hit or miss for me. I've found some things on there that I sought after for a long time. Downside though is that half of the listings there is ridiculously overpriced, and some sellers for some reason just cannot be contacted.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 July 2009 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link
so how do people deal with eBay's ridiculous new shipping cost limits? I just listed some box sets and it won't let me charge more than $3 for US shipping, for like six albums in a super heavy box. Is there some way to make exceptions or do I just have to say "email me for the real shipping cost" in every description?
I swear, it's enough to make me switch over to Discogs completely.
― sleeve, Monday, 20 July 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
in your description you can tell people what the real shipping price is.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 July 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ah good. now I need to weigh these things.
― sleeve, Monday, 20 July 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
okay, ian, THIS reissue is out of print, i think, and it was 30+ when it was new:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Notaro-Marconi-SATWA-related-Brazilian-psych_W0QQitemZ120449259500QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item1c0b55d7ec&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50
― scott seward, Saturday, 25 July 2009 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link
shrug,
― ian, Saturday, 25 July 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
someone buy this:old time mountain blues
― ian, Saturday, 25 July 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Jeff Nelson selling OG Dischord test pressings: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350232380889
Assuming this will comfortably hit four figures?
― the original hypnagogic pop blogging crew (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link
is there an etiquette to selling your own test-presses? it seems a little gauche?
― 69, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
it smells a little desperate, maybe? unless you are the revelation dude and you have a stray test press of chung king lying around. that would be understandable.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i only know one person on the chung king list. malcom tent. ex-bunny brain and owner of trash american style. i thought my pal robby redcheeks from philly had one, but maybe he sold his.
http://www.revelationrecords.com/pressing/where/
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link
wow a new record-story, cool
― 69, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
a thousand bucks if you have this lying around
http://991.com/newGallery/Michael-Jackson-Smile---EX-394825.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link
somebody buy this and tell me how it is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p284.m183&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&item=380131432843&refitem=380142458063&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&viewitem=&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%26itu%3DSI%252BUCI%26otn%3D2&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&sspagename=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr2_PcY_BIN_IT&itemcount=2&salenotsupported
― scott seward, Saturday, 1 August 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i just got don cherry's ORGANIC MUSIC 2LP in the mail from ebay, and it was not as described. pops all over the first record, graded as NM- on each side. normally, im not this particular, but i paid enough for it that im not tryna settle here. the dude's feedback profile is peppered with shitfits and ridic (but kind of just LOL) feedback-comebacks.
any experience with this dude?
― 69, Monday, 10 August 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
it hurt to send it back a little, but ill get a nice copy or a cheaper copy sometime.
― 69, Monday, 10 August 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
i have never seen a copy of this album:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HMS-DONOVAN-Rare-Orig-UK-71-Dawn-N-M-LPs-MINT-POSTER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem2ea6e90457QQitemZ200368784471QQptZUKQ5fRecordsQQsalenotsupported
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
almost 700 bucks for a copy with the poster. another copy just sold without the poster for 75 bucks. not a first pressing, but i think i know which one i would rather buy. (though the poster is friggin' insane and awesome)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
plus, guy who sold the 700 dollar one. wordiest motherfucker on ebay or what? jesus, dude wrote a book to sell that thing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
wow, look at that poster.
― ian, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link
dude just sold piper at the gates of dawn for over 2k!
― ian, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
hoo-haa
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 13:12 (fifteen years ago) link
there goes the neighborhood!
― 69, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320408002078&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT#ht_500wt_1182
i got this in my new favorite weird non record store thrift wicker basket and old textbook shop
― danbunny, Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link
cool! did you tape it before you sold it?
meanwhile, i would have bought that Wool album!!!
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link
i can tell without even looking that there is djukic talk on this thread
***one of the nicest copies we have seen lately***
― badpowderfinger (electricsound), Thursday, 13 August 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i havent sent it out but im gonna tape it ot cd r it or rip it or whatevr u do to themits exteremelkey fukked upsorry about Wooli have 10 billion more
― danbunny, Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link
speaking of ebayi have had a Lox diss track by pee diddyy on badboy called fu-k ya'll n--gers produced by kanye west w lyrixx by shynei cant find an extant copy on th net for comparison anyplaceall aprocrophye sezz its unreleasedso maybe it was a dj only thingy?y wood noone ever have even one copy of it?hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhen tooth?
― danbunny, Thursday, 13 August 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
lol djukic--he's actually a nice guy imo but totally insane in the ebay world.
― ian, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
TEFTELLER!
http://tefteller.com/images/john_t_78.JPG
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
hi DERe i will helicopter 2 yer house for negro rekkerds!
http://charleypatton.com/images/nav_and_products_images/tefteller_record_warehouse.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 13 August 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
i just sold some records on ebay and i tell you, some of these record guys are really "specific"
I KINDLY ask you to mark the customs receipt as GIFT and the value as $10. In these last months, the Italian customs use to apply heavy duties to parcels coming from outside UE, starting with middle values declared.
I also have to ask you to ship the record in a cardboard BOX or in a STURDY record mailer, adding TWO inner stiffeners. It's the ONLY way to receive the cover NOT damaged in all corners. Please do NOT use those thin cardboard envelopes, that are EASILY flexible.
― the moreno you knowshon (omar little), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
WOW, that GUY sure is DEMANDING as HELL :)
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
There's only one thing I always ask when I buy something on eBay: take the records in their inner sleeves out of the outer sleeve, and put them between the gatefold sleeve (if it's a gatefold obv.). Had too many records coming in with busted outer sleeves because the record 'pressed' through them, because of shaking during transport I suppose.
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link
i was shocked when i first received a request to change the value for customs. i just wrote some "receipt" that was like GIFT GIFT $5 for some $25 record
― 69, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i totally sell stuff that other people would list as near mint as vg+. but i don't care. i want people to be really happy when they get a record from me. and i feel like i'm covered that way. i do use the excellent grade sometimes when i have stuff that is pretty much unplayed/like new. i feel like near mint is almost a myth. i would have to listen to every record i sell very closely for me to call it near mint. i'd rather be safe than sorry. and i get repeat business as a result.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
i used excellent for this. anyone else would have said near mint. i don't know how much more i would have made.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331050930781?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
That les Baxter was nice looking! Does anybody know how this guy gets $31 for Eagles first record when there's 30 copies for less on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagles-Self-Titled-Original-/400591947873?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item5d45240861
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
ime, once you get a good ebay account going, selling some cool stuff at least some of the time, allowing for combined shipping, and always being responsive/deferential/quick about messages, shipping, and feedback, you can sell ANYTHING for $20+
― 69, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
that's my buddy. yeah, he's got such a great rep with people. he buys tons of stuff from me. he sends e-mails to over 3000 people before he starts an auction. i could do the same thing if all i did was ebay. but for some reason i enjoy having a store. but i could make more money with huge rock auctions.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
i only wince a little bit when one of my 2 dollar records that he bought from me sells for 15 or whatever. and they don't ALWAYS go for more than he bought them for. he spends a lot of money to buy records.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
that doesn't really explain how he gets 124 dollars for a fever tree record though. or bloodrock records. some things are a mystery. people are loyal to him though. he sells clean stuff and people depend on him.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
he sold that dan lewis album i really want. gotta find one...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
37 minutes to go I get a bid followed by this a few minutes later:
"hi sorry man can u cancel my bid i wasnt me my friend did this ..im so sorry"
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Were you at least able to sell the record?
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
I canceled his bid at the last minute and the price dropped from $15.50 to $13.50, there were 4 bidders total so it wasn't a loss.
Afterwards I replied to be more careful in the future and that other sellers on eBay may not be as understanding as I am.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
.. or even "around at the time"..
― Mark G, Friday, 1 November 2013 09:47 (eleven years ago) link
Wanna buy a record shop?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/On-The-Beat-Records-A-Classic-Vinyl-Collectors-Record-Store-in-Central-London-/221305313500?pt=UK_B_I_Business_for_Sale_CV&hash=item3386d318dc
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I think I've been in there.
Assuming you don't get the property itself, cos that alone would be worth way in excess of £300k in that location, that seems a little steep. I wonder how much the rent is.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
The bar in that picture, next door to the shop for sale was an early-days London ILx late night hangout.
― Tim, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
I thought that might be the case!
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
"If you’re at the stage in your life when you don’t have to worry about making money but can live the bohemian life"
trans. "loss making business for sale: £300k"
Then again, there was an article in this morning's paper about how Edinburgh's Unknown Pleasures has just had its best ever year due to mad Russians paying top dollar for all manner of common as muck 70s vinyl so maybe it's a good time to buy.
― grown-arsed man (onimo), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ian Curtis' kitchen table anyone?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ian-Curtis-Singer-Joy-Division-Unique-Personal-Item-His-Kitchen-Table-/190959624297
― Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Thursday, 7 November 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
I finally have my ebay sale up! http://www.ebay.com/sch/delriogirl/m.html?item=291011241002&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 7 November 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
some of those look great! weirdness with the last item though - says it's the holy modal rounders, but when you click on the link it's john hartford? migh justt be my computer being odd
ian curtis kitchen table - that is a very odd thing to want to buy
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
I just noticed that and fixed it, after listing 54 items my brain was hurting.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 7 November 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
great looking set jacob!
― 69, Friday, 8 November 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Do you guys place a bid with your top price you'll pay for a record while it has days left? Or do you wait for the last few seconds? I've never don't the former and I'm always surprised by people placing bids by a few dollars, over and over and over. Aside from trying to drive the price up on a record, why bid early?
― JacobSanders, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
I should have bid a top price early on a Sun Kil Moon album I wanted. But that's only because it ended while I was away and disconnected from the internet.Can't be bothered with bidding wars on the beach.
― Evan, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol I wondered about that John Hartford cover as well.
Jacob, I am interested in the Augustus Pablo, my ILX email works if you wanna hit me up off-board.
― sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
I always bid late. I have no idea if there is any actual point in doing it, but that's what I do.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 8 November 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
I never thought Lee Hazlewood & Ann Margret's 'The Cowboy & The Lady' would be the most watched record is my sale?? I haven't even listened to it, I guess I should?
― JacobSanders, Monday, 11 November 2013 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
If you listen to that one you also have to listen to all the polka.
― nickn, Monday, 11 November 2013 06:42 (eleven years ago) link
My sale ends starting tomorrow morning, I'm excited to see what happens. These are records from the last three years digging in Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, Ohio, Louisiana, Maryland, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Texas. I actually had planned to sell 150, but I only ordered 50 record mailers. I don't think I could handle a sale larger than 50 yet.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 14 November 2013 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
It's looking my fellowminded japanese will be getting a lot of my records, anyone have tips on what I should charge for combined overseas shipping?
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
imo taking no profit on int'l shipping means $19 for 1st record + $3.50 per add'l
― 69, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks, that's what I was thinking, I put 20 in my postings, so I can recover a little handling/mailers cost.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i think thats the smart way to go!
― 69, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
HA! No one wanted the kiddie Oldfield's the Sallyangie, have to say that was one of the most disappointing records I have ever bought.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
this is so cool...
http://gripper.com/records/records
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
ex-ilxor-related iirc
― 69, Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
collector's frenzy is? i didn't know that.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
or just the gripper thing?
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe they aren't connected at all. i just got to the gripper via collectors frenzy.
just gripper -- think s@nskr!t did something for it?
― 69, Thursday, 14 November 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
otm. still does I think.
https://twitter.com/gripper/status/383752870459224064
― dmr, Friday, 15 November 2013 02:39 (eleven years ago) link
I suck at selling on ebay, all of the decent private xian records undersold, and the stuff I almost didn't sell did ok. Maybe the market for christian records has busted? I'm planning on putting up 45's, maybe those will do better.
― JacobSanders, Friday, 15 November 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
re-list stuff that didn't sell.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 November 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
also, don't hesitate to start things higher. at least make it worth your while. start everything at 9.95 at least. unless you are a constant seller who always has hundreds of records going in auctions it doesn't really pay to start things too low. unless you want to sell lots of records for 5 bucks. sometimes slightly higher prices for harder to find records are actually enticing to people. not TOO high though. unless you have something that EVERYONE wants. then it doesn't matter.
― scott seward, Friday, 15 November 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's whatever two people are prepared to pay for it..
Unless you price it high but fairly..
― Mark G, Monday, 18 November 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/182841679894
― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link
I cannot find any information about the existence of this variation at all, nor can any of my Beatles expert friends.
― clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 07:07 (seven years ago) link
free shipping tho, v generous
― clammy marinara (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 07:08 (seven years ago) link
"Why would anyone go through the process of printing a boot cover, pay the extra expense to emboss the cover, only to put legit records inside — doesn’t make sense. Plus, we’d have seen them before. It must be real."
https://ci.memecdn.com/10737246.jpg
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 09:11 (seven years ago) link
granted it's not ebay & it's $nz but yikes!!! (doesn't even seem to have the insert!)
― no lime tangier, Monday, 25 November 2019 08:22 (five years ago) link