double-LP topology

third option got cut off; should say "GRAVE ARCHITECTURE"

HATE ANYTHING BUT THE SECOND OPTION.

^ that

HATE ANYTHING BUT THE SECOND OPTION.

most otm post in the history of ilm.

related: was there ever a pressing of the basement tapes that uses the 1/2;3/4 model???

side three b/w a blank side four

thought it had an etching?

i don't understand why side one would ever be paired with side four??? is that a thing?

it was for people that had those automatic record changers. so you could cue up sides 1 & 2 as two separate records. then you'd have to get up and cue up 3 & 4. 1 trip up from the couch as opposed to 3.

aha!

Yeah for some reason that really pissed me off - seemed to be upsetting the natural order of things, so quite naturally voted: side one b/w side two; side three b/w side four

i was at a record store tonight and i saw a copy of that sand album i like from the 70's. (not the krautrock sand). anyway, it's a double album with only two sides. and two blank sides. i almost bought it cuz it was so cheap just to give to someone who hasn't heard it, but the cover was pretty beat. i love that thing. (um, each album has a side of music and then the b-side is blank. in case i wasn't clear...)

this sand album. with the famous sandy sandwich cover:

http://jhendrix110.tripod.com/images/Sand.jpg

everyone on the vinyl board should own this album!

shit, i can't find a good picture. on barnaby records.

found one

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20091028/380172427903.jpg

i like the sand record!!

does it have two blank sides so people could cue it up on automatic record changer and listen to the whole thing?

exactly!

Did they do a similar thing with triple albums? 1 b/w 6, 2 b/w 5, 3 b/w 4... that kind of thing? Cos that would have killed me.

yep, Woodstock is like that. I've played the Side 1/6 disc way more than the others.

like, flipping over a record is such a drag, man

All that and Joe Cocker, now that's just brutal.

1/3, 2/4 works ok for 2 turntables + mixer setup also... you can nicely crossfade to the next 'side' w/out stopping the music for any flipping haha

Did they do a similar thing with triple albums? 1 b/w 6, 2 b/w 5, 3 b/w 4... that kind of thing? Cos that would have killed me.

― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Tuesday, March 9, 2010 3:52 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

i guess the ram dass LOVE SERVE REMEMBER box is the extreme example in my collection, where it goes 1/12, 2/11, 3/10, 4/9, 5/8, and 6/7. that one isnt bad, though, cause the sufi choir LP is on sides 6/7, which is considerate.

Tons of opera vinyl indulges in that first option crapola.

I can't think of any albums that fit the third option. Examples?

but yeah, second option forever (name of new Pavement reunion disc)!

I had one LP from the "Bangladesh" 3LP set. Side 1 = Ravi Shankar, Side 6 = Bob Dylan.

Just so's you know.

(fwiw, "All things must pass" was never like that)

Second option by a mile obv.

Though then there's the Rock City Angels (and Graham Parker Parkerilla I think?) option, where you just put a 12-inch remix of one of the tracks on side four.

Weirdest 3-side topology in my collection though is this M "Pop Muzik" 12-inch where there's just one disc, but one side theoretically has two different "sides" on it, since there are two separate grooves and which song plays depends on where you put the needle down. (How common is that? Don't think I've ever seen it, otherwise.)

I think Sonic Youth have done the concentric grooves thing too, not sure what on.

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unusual_types_of_gramophone_records#Parallel_grooves

Earliest one was 1901!

(1901 the year not the Phoenix song btw)

Man, the Han-O-Disc Liquid Disc on that page is amazing.

I've got the De La Soul 12" that does that

the parallel grooves, that is

Presumably if the needle skips, it could just totally switch tracks?

I think Sonic Youth have done the concentric grooves thing too, not sure what on.

100% single?

I was thinking Sonic Youth too, but then I realized what I was thinking of was this old Lee Ranaldo solo EP on SST where each track was a locked groove that made it play forever if you wanted it to (used to own a copy, got rid of it decades ago though):

http://www.amazon.com/Here-Infinity-Lee-Ranaldo/dp/B000000M1S

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Here_to_Infinity

xhuxk I've got that concentric version of Pop Musik! The cover claims it's the first ever double-grooved single but Wikipedia says otherwise. In the same article they say:

The Summer 1980 issue of Mad Magazine Super Special included a one-sided sound sheet (see "flexidisc" above), playable on a standard turntable. It had eight interlaced grooves, each track having the same introduction song but a different ending.

What a rad idea.

yeah, i love that. esp if the listener has no idea the record's concentric, so it's like 'uh' when the song changes

i had that mad magazine flexi! that's what i was gonna post about actually. i loved that when i was a kid. thought it was the coolest thing on earth.

last weird record i bought was probably the super furry animals record (rings around the world) that had one side that played backwards. you put your needle at the end of the record.

there was a orchid/ jerome's dream split skull shaped record that did that. one band's side played the normal way, the other's played backwards on the same side.

there's a dropdead record like that! xp
and i've seen a few singles that have two tracks per side, one panned right & one panned left.

xp i pulled out that Lee Renaldo record last week - short noise tracks with lockgrooves at the end, side 2 has a Savage Pencil engraving in the middle that makes your needle bounce around. and the EVOL LP has a lockgroove at the end of Expressway to Yr Skull. I want to say the Master Dik EP has some vinyl shenanigans too...

just remembered this cool spoken word double-LP: Burroughs, Giorno and Laurie Anderson each take a side, then Side 4 has them on three concentric grooves so which one you hear is chosen by the needle drop.

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/damien_stone/money.jpg

as a teen i fell asleep more than once with that xpressway groove running. used to freak me out.

this Rescue 1 "Movie Viewers" record does it. when i mentioned it before, all you guys were hating on it (i think it's annoying), but now you're all fans?!

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/02/rescue-1otto-von-ruggins-robert-crash.html

Is it me misremembering or did each side of Double Nickels finish in a locked groove?

you remembered correctly!

hooray my brain!

i have a dead c EP that plays backwards on clear vinyl; no locked or parallel grooves though :(

I want a liquid disc!!!!!

"Mum and Dad" had a track on "Modern music for motorcycles" about a daredevil bike rider (most of their songs were, but wait), one version he clears the buses to cheers and applause, the other one he crashes and is dashed to hospital but dies (the heart monitor beeps finally)..

The only problem (see that M one above) is if one of the songs is shorter than the other. "M Factor" ends to 2 mins of silent grooves, as "Pop Musik" is much longer.

as a teen i fell asleep more than once with that xpressway groove running. used to freak me out.

― scott seward, Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i used to leave the pavement DVD and the once upon a time in the west DVDs on for hours in my college apartment just to hear the menuscreen music on "lock-groove."

Scratching plays hell with concentric groove records - that 100% Sonic Youth one, in tasteful bright orange, used to alternate rapidly and unlistenably (but but somehow not always perceptibly) between Genetic Kiss and Hendrix Narco. Result, one very angry teenager. I'd probably try and see it as a sound experiment now, but at the time I really liked Genetic Kiss.

sounds like u oughta revirginize that bitch

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also four of them voted B???

voted w/ majority but it must be said that if a double LP were released today in the hated format it could be a bold choice, even be aesthetically appropriate for certain gatefold repeat offenders