y'all welcome here!
topic 1: marion brown! i have a hard time choosing a favorite among burton greene's first ESP-DISK' record, marion brown's first ESP-DISK' record (both real dry and free -- my favorite exemplars of the ESP sound), afternoon of a georgia faun (super "creative" session -- very free with lots of noises and anthony braxton on sax and andrew cyrille on percussion (stay tuned!)), geechee recollections, and sweet earth flying (both a lil funkier and less free, but reaaaaaaaally beautiful -- these feel like the most fully-realized marion brown sound). vista and why not? are a little bit weaker. ive never heard three for shepp, and there's this whole "unwashed" sector of japanese-only records, live records, and weird group records. anyone have any info about more hidden gems? underrated favorites? shit to ignore?
topic 2: andrew cyrille! whoa, what a creative and fucking rad drummer. just got his solo drum record on actuel, and it totally rules. lots of "percussion" in his drumming. he fits super well in unit structures and conquistador! and afternoon of a georgia faun, and im looking for more stuff like the last -- the sort of "free creative improv" end of 60s/70s jazz. i know he has a well-loved record w milford graves, but im not sure where to go from there. anyone know any total burners w cyrille?
topic 3: british jazz! maybe youve noticed that im obsessed these days with the whole hopper/coxhill avant/fusion/prog/jazz/canterbury scene thing. i also have this john surman record that i like. i like the manner of the british jazz that is completely different than america's thang -- less visceral free stuff, more connection w european classical (but definitely the weirdo side of that), just as many drugs probably. im just getting started here, and basically just expanding out from the soft machine connections -- any other ideas would be k-rad.
also this isnt just a SUGGESTIONS thread -- we can discus.
― 69, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Shit I think I feel a jazz thing coming on, now that I've worked through some of this punk energy I've been feeling.I should look for some stuff at KOPN, we've got tons of jazz records, but they aren't very browsable. They are on the upper shelves and you have to wheel that stairs over to them. When I've looked for specific artists before it's always turned up interesting stuff. (Some Sun Ra originals on Saturn, for instance).
I love Hopper Tunity Box.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
you know you could replace those sun ra records with reissue copies and it wouldn't be like you were STEALING. you know?
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't even know if reissues exist of the ones that I saw. If I were more of a buyer/seller/trader, I would probably be more tempted to do that.But I haven't listed anything on Ebay since I tried to sell some super nintendo games like twelve years ago (Bust A Move, I think I shipped it to Hawaii).
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
no reissues yet on the fancy handmade-sleeve (or plain white sleeve) sun ra recs on saturn iirc.
i love hopper tunity box, too! it occupies this awesome space where it expands out one particular type of soft machine sound into a full album. this is how i feel about 1984, too. the freer and skronkier (read: earlier?) the hopper stuff, the better, in my mind.
― 69, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link
do you like Bill Fay? great great british folk records (not the point of the thread i know), but Ray Russell plays guitar on Time of the Last Persecution. amazing amazing album. depressy stoner folk, but ray just fucking goes off skronk style on a lot of the songs. anyways, i have one of his solo albums on Black Saint called Secret Asylum and it's him freaking the fuck out w/a guy on drums and a guy on trumpet. i think you'd really dig it.
― jaxon, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, i guess one of the dudes from soft machine plays trombone on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RppeB9KiCTE
― jaxon, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
ya know Hugh Hopper did this great record with people from Caveman Shoestore called Caveman Hughscore, search that out. And from Caveman Shoestore we can draw a line to the Tone Dogs (Chalenor's early band w/Amy Denio) and then to Denio herself and her glorious, glorious, totally underrated albums - solo or with Pale Nudes, EC Nudes, and The Tiptons (who are the most strictly jazz of all these and who are especially great live). But I've always found Amy's work to be infused with a lot of that Euro-prog sensibility a la Cuneiform (she also has an opera record the name of which escapes me).
― sleeve, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
hey, good info guys! ill investigate!
― 69, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
hey buddy, i'm about to start listing a bunch of stuff on discogs. i believe there might be some stuff you'd be interested in. lots of jazz. this one specifically.
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1500689/a/Bittersuite+In+The+Ozone.htm(this is also on mutant sounds if you wanna check it out first)
also a few Kalaparusha Maurice McIntryes and AEoC recs.
― jaxon, Friday, 18 February 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
all LP's or CD's? i still have yr joni, caroline, and hamBo records -- are you workin from home tomorrow? i could bring yours by and check out what you got on my way home!
― 69, Friday, 18 February 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
ya, wfh tomorrow. i posted a bunch of cds, but now i'm about to list rex. listening to this bob moses right now and it's soooo up your alley. it's prett out but really beautiful. on the mellower free side. lots of instruments.
i feel like you may have seen a bunch of this stuff before when you dug through that box and got the don cherry and terry riley records? but maybe i've added some? maybe i'll add more?! so sick of "stuff"
― jaxon, Friday, 18 February 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
im your man, man. i still love stuff! ill call u bw 530 and 6!
― 69, Friday, 18 February 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
crap, i'm djing happy hour 6-9. maybe this weekend. i have monday off too
― jaxon, Friday, 18 February 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
word! if i can get there early, ill do it -- if not, saturday or monday will work. maybe we can hit some rad brunçh up one day?
― 69, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
jaxon is married, pete. stop trying to go on dates with him.
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
youll never understand california if u never visit bro
― 69, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
ian. don't be jealous. i still <3 u too, boo. we'll hang again soon enough (actually just bought tix for ny in may)
― jaxon, Friday, 18 February 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://mussiqa.net/i25/6nwmdu.jpg
pretty good!
― 69, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, that's a great one. if you like it, you definitely want this one too:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kMkWq1e4b7s/TIb2iAwwkoI/AAAAAAAAHFE/BWpZzZEIARs/s1600/front_cover_small.jpg
and probably better keep an eye out for this one too
http://www.mynetimages.com/a61e4140.jpg
(has a different American title, but the same album I think)(and actually all of the Colossuem MK I recs are pretty rad in my opinion)
and Surman, and Giles, and so on .. sorry not much time to contribute to this thread .. hopefully this weekend, but it's all about the Chris McGregor/Brotherhood of Breah/Blue Notes/Ogun axis for me!!
and don't sleep on Egg or East of Eden or the Centipede record!
http://place1.dyndns.org/music/files/images/detailed/417042.jpg
― Stormy Davis, Thursday, 24 February 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link