Monty Python's Flying Circus - Classic or Dud?

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I mean, Spamalot - is Eric Idle the Mike Love of comedy or what?

ask neil innes!

This--and I know you're just paraphrasing--is fucking brilliant.

agreed!

i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, well you can't rely on what Dave Eggers says, can you?

In Idle's defence, he was responsible for one of the great TOTP performances - "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" where he systematically demolished the stage set.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

about the only python related anything I can stomach anymore are michael palin's travel series, which are really fascinating. too much python in adolesence kind of spoils it for the rest of your life...maybe I'll come around again, some day.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The Python episode featuring Palin as a cyclist kind of spoiled Palin's travel series for me.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Makes me wonder how those Terry Jones historical things are.

Very pleasant and likeable, in the same way Palin's travelogues are very pleasant and likeable. Jones and Palin are still very good friends, I believe.

chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's a really good recent interview with Michael Palin: http://www.idler.co.uk/archives/?page_id=157

M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

In Idle's defence, he was responsible for one of the great TOTP performances - "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" where he systematically demolished the stage set.

Agreed. I was so happy to see that at long last, having heard about it for years.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Eric Idle, This paraphrased from a rutles thread on ILM...

Basically the dispute between him and Innes is well known, and I watched the Rutles with the "director's commentary" i.e. Idle's, and two things struck me:

1) No mention at all of Innes
2) or anybody else who did non-oncreen work.


Until about halfway through when he discusses Innes' wonderful songs, the co-director's work and everyone else. Ah well, I guess he warmed up.

Oh, and 4) It actually isn't unfair to claim he wrote it, as there is a great deal in it that isn't purely beatlessong or story.

Also, that he 'idly' pondered getting out all the out-takes and extras and making a sequel. "YOU NUTS??" I thought.... (It's easy to think this bloke chatting over the film is in the chair next to you)..

So I look up on Amazon, IMDB etc, and that is exactly what he did do. And how dreadful the reviews were for it.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Monty Python & Stephanie Edwards hosting A.M. America in 1975. Includes bonus Peter Jennings reporting on the fall of Saigon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfmS-DM8Jc0

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 August 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

My son has just started watching Monty Python and repeating the lines as I did as an irritating teenager (although he's only 11) and indeed still do as an irritating 40 something. It was one of the first programmes I was allowed to stay up and watch back in the early 70s. The circle is unbroken.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 8 August 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

palin's 70s diary rocks. great book to have on a pain-in-the-arse long journey.

piscesx, Sunday, 10 August 2008 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Monty Python Youtube Channel Launches

Manchego Bay (G00blar), Friday, 21 November 2008 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

holy fuck was the series lame. dig the movies, but i hadn't properly sat down to watch eps of the actual MPFC in aeons. so far not a single lol.

total classic, btw. as I have written elsewhere recently, almost unspeakably *important* at times.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, September 1, 2003 1:12 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wonder what he meant. maybe it was the comedy working-class accents or preponderance of loldolly-birds.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

the rutles movie is a stinker as well.

special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 9 February 2009 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Would you leave your kids with Eric Idle alright?

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 9 February 2009 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

It matters not which Python's were right bastards and which were nice guys, the comedy is still funny after all these decades (at least whatever was funny the first time through) and that is quite a feat. Classic, obv.

Aimless, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

nrq keeps rong streak goin

Dr Morbius, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the series beats any of the movies (as well as just about any other sketch comedy) any day.

i love how brits frantically detest any comedian of theirs with overseas appeal, then turn around and lionize shit like "friends."

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

TS: Benny Hill vs Curb yr Enthusiasm

Mark G, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i love how brits frantically detest any comedian of theirs with overseas appeal, then turn around and lionize shit like "friends."

Yeah, we ALL do that.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Because americans never lionised Friends or anything.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link

so far not a single lol.

And you, so renowned for your gaiety and hearty sense of humour

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

John Cleese, who at 70 is the oldest of the group, in addition to appearing in movies and sitcoms and making golf-ball commercials, sometimes turns into a cranky old buffer complaining about cultural decline and Britain’s tabloids. He doesn’t watch much comedy anymore. “As you get older you laugh less,” he says, “because you’ve heard most of the jokes before."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/arts/television/04mcgr.html?pagewanted=all

You see, this is why *I* am watching less comedy...

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 October 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it NY Times house style to call everyone "Mr."?

Michael Jones, Monday, 5 October 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Very much so. Especially if you are female.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 October 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember when their Iggy reviews called him "Mr. Osterberg."

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm told they used to add "Mr." and such even to one-name celebrities, thus Mr. Meatloaf, Ms. Cher, etc, but I'm not sure I believe this.

Nemo, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Mr Cent.

Mark G, Monday, 5 October 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Mr Mr Mr, the famous band

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Monday, 5 October 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

“As you get older you laugh less,”

Soon we die.

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha and I know exactly the tone of voice in which you say that...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I know you do, and you know why i agonized over "we" vs. "you," and now fear I may have chosen the wrong word.

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

You should really just relax.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Death relaxes you like nothing else can. Your bladder and bowels, too.

Aimless, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

haha

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

and sphincter.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 October 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Take it to I Love TMI.

a wicked 60s beat poop combo (Pancakes Hackman), Monday, 5 October 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Where is the love for the Monty Pythons albums?? ABSOLUTE TOTAL FUCKING CLASSIC!!

Monty Python's Flying Circus, though, is pretty duddy. Way too much laughtrack.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link

you're deranged, TV was their medium.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

people ragging on python must not have seen 90% of other tv. i'm hoping.

Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link

it didn't have a 'laugh track,' it was filmed in front of an audience.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you sure about that? Not the filmed bits -- I don't believe any TV comedy was permitted NOT to have a laugh track in that era.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

British TV didn't use laugh tracks, as far i'm aware

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Definitely in front of an audience from the start and the laughter you hear is live -- it's not only been discussed in any number of books/documentaries but a slew of sketches specifically use the audience as either backdrop or part of the whole thing. (Best example being the second season ender, the cannibal undertakers, which involved the audience supposedly rising up and charging the set in protest.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't think of a single British comedy series of the 60s and 70s with one

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Sketch in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWWg5shNWR4

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

One of the Pythons mentions in a later book and interview that this didn't quite go off as planned since most of the audience were loving it -- you can hear a few plants from staff/friends complaining and catcalling but the initial cutaways to the audience show 'em all chilling. The 'stage invasion' is a little easygoing at points. And then they all stand for the queen (the conceit of the episode being that Her Majesty was supposedly tuning in that night -- whenever she did so the national anthem was played, etc.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha I have very strong memories of that sketch!

The Book of Outhere (HI DERE), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Based on the time you broke into the mortuary and...well anyway.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

That IFC special sounds pretty cool!

Darin, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link


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