Cleese? or Idle?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Cleese/Fawlty
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I think I saw Palin say that he was very angry about it all and had a selection of excellent debate points prepared, but then Cleese started with the jokes and he didn't know what to do with his serious arguments.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Hard not to resort to humour when confronted with Mervyn Stockwood, the gayest Bishop in Christendom
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link
He comes across as a guy you wouldn't want to fall out with
Apparently not even being Cleese's friend from college age, and his longtime professional partner, and then dying suddenly and very sadly, will save you from his scorn.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know if that makes him a bastard cocksucker or not, though. It probably is, in fact, quite difficult to work with someone who, though brilliant, has no work ethic at all and actually has the shakes if made to work for long hours.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:19 (fourteen years ago) link
No, can't be too critical of someone who has to work with an alcoholic
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), 13 October 2009 11:09 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkCleese? or Idle?
― Mark G, 13 October 2009 11:11 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
God
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
xp It does seem rude of him, though. Why say those things? Why bother at this point?
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, look what he did to poor old Graham Chapman :( (xp)
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
^ God, that is, not Cleese... or Idle
hard for cleese to come across as any other way, but if you think that being honest about graham chapman being difficult to work worth, or cleese's frustration manifesting itself as irreverence towards alcoholism or chapman's behaviour isn't understandable then........
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
No I get that. But see my earlier post. What is it that he's actually trying to vent? Frustration at not being properly recognized, is how it reads to me. And it's plenty petty.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link
but cleese being frustrated and bitter is a running joke at this stage, and i honestly think he plays to it when discussing python, particularly when referring to jones or being left to work with python.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Could be, but I hope when and if I'm his age I don't drag my dear old dead friends into it anymore.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i think they assume that
a) he wouldn't mind, would probably approve in fact
b) it's up to them how they refer to someone they worked with and knew closely for 20 years or so before he died.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Cleese: the Ingmar Bergman of the Pythons
so you wd say, Smiles of a Summer Night hata
I was more referring to his propensity for giving crusty, bitter interviews.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
I preferred his earlier, funnier interviews
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
^ we've come full circle
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link
he repeated himself after interviews 1 & 2 imo
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link
That Palin + Cleese vs. Muggeridge + Bishop of Southwark confrontation is classic though, not that Palin contributes much
would love to see the full clip
― no bubo, no credibility (stevie), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm a fan of crusty + bitter in comedians/people, don't all faint.
Why say those things? Why bother at this point?
cuz fanboys are still "blaming" him for leaving the show? I don't see his remarks as scornful. Don't hold your breath for the day Aykroyd says the same about Belushi.
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think anyone "blames" Cleese for leaving the show, I know Python fans are saddoes, but not that sad. I think he could be crusty and bitter because nobody finds him funny anymore, least of all himself.
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Aykroyd always wanted to leave the coke fiesta at 4.30am and bang some party girl before passing out and getting up 12 hours later to write five lines of banter, while Belushi always insisted on staying til 5 o'clock
― RAPTOBER (sic), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
... also because, the others, in different ways, all seem happier and more successful than him? (xp)
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
different in the way of not making fawlty towers?
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link
judging ppl's happiness by media/interviews = hilarious. Sample, 1993: "Oh, that River Phoenix and his healthy vegan lifestyle."
yeah, Eric Idle's current "success" largely built on the dumbed-down recycling that is Spamalot.
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link
It's making him rich(er), that's success of a kind
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link
judging ppl's happiness by media/interviews = hilarious
Well, of course, but there appears to be only one embittered sourpuss these days, where they're used to be two (Cleese and Idle)
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
do people want to see john cleese happy?
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
They want to see him funny
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Ok, look. The man will be 70 years old on the 27th. (Happy Birthday, Cleese, in advance -- the world would be quite a bit less funny without you.) It just seems unnecessary for him to go pissing on his ex wife in public, or his old friends... it's ugly, is what I mean. You'll be sour enough when you're dead, so lighten the fuck up. You're rich as hell and loved wherever people speak English. Count your motherfucking blessings, you old coot.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe john cleese doesn't think people want to see him happy, though? seriously, have you ever seen the man appear out of 'grouch' mode. i can't think of an instance.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, I'm on the record now, fwiw.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
john cleese, we'd like to see you happy.
but we don't pay as well as mastercard, so that's probably that out of the running.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, he's nearly 70, he's more or less retired anyway
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Younger than Woody Allen though
You're rich as hell
Not what he says! He's in Eddie Murphy HALF mode.
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I think that's exactly what it is, Morbs. How much money does he want buried with him, I wonder?
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, give the bitch the money. It's just money. It's not going to make her any happier, either.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link
bollocks it won't
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
taking it off him in the first place will make her happier, and then she actually gets to buy stuff with it.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, but... fine. Let her. I don't actually believe that he's hurting financially. He's just sour-graping. He can give her half and still have plenty to live in the country, drink the world's finest wine, and grow ever more Orson-shaped until his demise.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess i AM asking for a mellow, contented John Cleese. And I guess that is a bit silly.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
it's a fine world we live in when john cleese can't find happiness but jerry seinfeld only ever seems to be fucking grinning at me.
― Brewer's Bitch (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link
xp yeah, i just don't think i've ever seen anything to suggest cleese has that 'setting'
Maybe Michael Palin could help him
― The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiBWHHqK7W8
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:37 (fourteen years ago) link
He has a video about cheese, too.
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
(Although it seems the a youtube search for "John Cleese cheese" only turns up the obvious.)
― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link