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Aw.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Alba i think what I mean with spotlight is that it saves the step of clicking on your application and then doing whatever search you're gonna do or whatever. I use it to launch programs that aren't in my Dock, for instance. Much faster than clicking onto Finder, selecting Application menu, scrolling, double-clicking.. I know there are other apps that launch programs, but the exact same interface can be used to search mail, addresses, etc. Just start typing a few letters and the shit comes up. So to speak.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

I like not having to type anything at all to launch an app, so Thee Method is to drop the Applications folder into the Dock and control-click on it there to turn it into a contextual menu. Even apps nested in folders with support documentation can be gotten at to launch.

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. my point is though that you can't use that exact same interface (control-clicking on the dock) to bring up address info, emails, etc. - i am dumm and need ONE thing for EVERYTHING. once i considered writing every single piece of text in a Eudora "new message" window. i thought it might give everything i wrote intimacy and zing.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Much faster than clicking onto Finder, selecting Application menu, scrolling, double-clicking

I put a shortcut to my Applications folder in my dock, then rightclick on it to get access to them all. But yeah, Spotlight's OK.

Anyway, I've gone back to 10.4.0 and all is dandy. Snappy, even. I've got Azureus running in the background and I'd not even noticed. I'll see how it goes and if some app needs a later version and I'm feeling reckless I'll try out the 10.4.6 combo update.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Alba how much memory does yr emac have?

― stet (stet), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Thee Method is to drop the Applications folder into the Dock and control-click on it there to turn it into a contextual menu

http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/Tips/images/startmenu.gif

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

stet - 512MB. I went up from 256MB to 512MB and didn't really notice that much difference so I'm reluctant to spend money on any more.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

That's because 512MB still isn't enough for Tiger to run well, in my experience.

― milo z (mlp), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oh well, it runs OK for me, now.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

256 --> 512 = no difference because both are totally insufficient!

― Euai "jon williams" Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Is Process Viewer not a good guide then, cause I've never seen the total processes in there add up to anything like 512MB RAM? I expect you're both right and you really need 20Ghz of it to even run TextEdit in Tiger, but I've spent enough upgrading my Mac and I'm happy with it now.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

20GB, I mean, but not really.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - lol TOMBOT!

― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Tom, did you buy the RAM elsewhere than from Mac? They tried to front like it was my RAM last time I went in, and who knows, it could have been a number of things, but that didn't really make sense since I bought it along with my computer and it was installed at the store for me. Then again, they also tried to front like it was because I had folders on desktop god forbid.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I actually just ordered the extra RAM when I bought it. sheer laziness. I had two folders on the desktop plus a picture of a man singing "do you want some hot ice cream, i got some in my pocket" and they didn't bat an eye.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Alba I will simply repeat this chestnut, from an old sysadmin I once knew: "RAM is like money, you can't have too much of it."

Tom how did they know what he was singing?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

'cause it was in wavy pink block letters superimposed on top of him, you moron.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

we are all jon williams now

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I think you can have too much money. I'm going to give my RAM to disadvantaged kids.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

i'm running mavis beacon on my macbook pro, and presumably because it was written for an earlier version of os x, it doesn't seem to multitask very well. specifically, it lowers the resolution and takes over the whole screen. however, other programs still run ok in the background, so i can listen to music etc etc while i learn to type - but if i want to change the online radio station i'm listening to i have to quit and restart mavis beacon, which is annoying. is there a way around this?

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 4 September 2006 08:42 (eighteen years ago)

ok, i'm clearly an idiot, but i just spent 10 mins trying to find the former hoonja-doonja thread, and i can't. anyone got a link to it?

also - what's a good (free) rss reader for the mac?

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:38 (eighteen years ago)

safari's got one built in if yr running 10.4

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

NetNewsWIre

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

sorry not free

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000337.html

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

some mod took hoonja-doonja out the title, if that helps.
bloglines is good for being multi-platform, and it ties into firefox. NetNewsWire Lite is best free standalone

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

everything shrook related is, well, poxyfooling right now, hehe

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

hoonja-doonja thread:
your favorite little computer program (mac version)

― stop moving. (cis), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

NetNewsWire Lite is free. Shrook is, I have to say, better!

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

Is Shrook still the metal-interface mess it was? I remember v1 rocking, then it went metal and shit

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

I have never really forgiven Andrew for removing "hoonja-doonja" from that thread title.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

on a tangent, i fucking hate any big software companies that can't be fucked to write universal versions of their not-remotely-obscure apps, yeah i'm looking at you adobe you fucking cunts

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago)

to be fair UBs are being produced as part of a complete recoding for CS3 and adobe were pretty swift during all of the other transitions apple have undertaken.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

yeah so by the time the next version comes out they've only had 2 years to prepare

even fucking quark can be bothered! FUCKING QUARK!

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

that is somewhat suprising from the company that took, what was it?, three years to produce an OS X version, but maybe they were smart and recoded using XCode rather than sticking with Codewarrior.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

me too, Jtn.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

it also affects macromedia shite as they're adobe now as well...just as well i got me the educational discount version heh heh

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Shrook is brushed metal, yes. That doesn't bother me as much as it does most people, seemingly.

On a related note, can anyone recommend a web-based rss reader that works well on crappy old IE5.2 for Mac, such as I am lumbered with at work.

Orijjin.com is quite good, but on IE5 formatting goes a bit screwy.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

what's a good (free) rss reader for the mac?

I like Vienna: http://www.opencommunity.co.uk/vienna2.php

― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Alba: Bloglines at http://bloglines.com is ace -- and it'll import your OPML. Or give me a shout if you still want Mozilla.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeh, bloglines also has a firefox plugin which rocks. I've stopped using a separate reader altogether.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't Adobe in deep financial shit, possibly slowing down their CS3 development?

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Why is adobe in deep shit?

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, I read it somewhere that was talking about Adobe's product cycle. I assume they've taken a big hit from Final Cut Pro and Final Cut Express (and Avid's offerings) in video editing, Apple beat them to the punch on a comprehensive digital photography program, etc.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for the suggestions - am trying netnewswire lite and bloglines. bloglines seems a little clunky so far, though...

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ADBE

profit margin of 23% revenue up year on year but earnings down (probaby CS3 development costs)

seems al right to me

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

I think that Photoshop is to them like Office is to Microsoft...

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Aperture is by no means comprehensive, premiere may be less of an earner by after effects is still widely used and Adobe were talking of returning Premiere to OS X (probably at a price point between FCE and FCS with better after effects integration)

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Also, They have Macromedia director, shockwave, flash and coldfusion to drive earnings forward. They have no vector graphics competition to speak of , PDF is the document interchange standard and Go Live did well whilst Quark had its finger up its arse over OS X compatibility.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

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