Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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Brains farting is like white people saying "dawg." Poser brains are trying to co-opt all the cool stuff the butt comes up with.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

There's actually a certain economy to "Can I help who's next?" that makes sense, I think, given the circumstances in which it's usually used. Plus, it allows you to put the stress on the next, since it's at the end, so that if the addressee isn't really paying attention, they'll at least hear "blah blah blah blah NEXT?"

the stressed-"NEXT" part makes sense, it's just the "can i help who's" that makes me tear my hair out.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

People making 5 bucks an hour caught in not using perfect english shocker.

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"can i help who's next?"

This is great if the next person in line happens to be Pete Townshend.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Nabisco OTM re: ebonics. It annoys me how often the idea is misunderstood or deliberately misrepresented.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"Dude, does anybody properly remember what the Ebonics thing?"

You used "thing"!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

AAVE (formerly BVE) has been around as a recognized dialect long before the Ebonics craze -- that was a classic case of the media blowing up a language issue because it's controversial. Does anyone remember when the jogger was attacked in Central Park? There was a media outcry against "wilding." What the kid actually said was that they "did the wild thing." Not that the media outcry over "wilding" and Ebonics is the same, I admit it's a tangent, but what the linguists wanted originally was, iirc, to acknowledge that AAVE has rules and is a verifiable dialect rather than a "bastardization" of English.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

ax anybody...

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, hate to be pednatic (don't really), but:

cooler-than-thou disinterest in the event

A *lot* of people get this wrong. To be disinterested is not to be uninterested. It's to have a lack of stock in the outcome (ie, "Jack, not a taxpayer himself, remains politically disinterested is this issue."). This does not mean that Jack is uninterested in the issue, but just that he has nothing to gain or lose from it.

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

people mix up "un- " and "dis- " and "mis- " all the time! they're not interchangeable!

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The misspelling 'rediculous', for some reason, bugs me more than any other; I think because I can't work out any sort of phonetic reason for it.

spontine (cis), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"I could care less about..."

Then, you're implying that you do care, if not just a little.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The misspelling 'rediculous', for some reason, bugs me more than any other; I think because I can't work out any sort of phonetic reason for it.

especially since it's an adjective of "ridicule," which i've never seen ANYONE spell "redicule."

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

1) "...As it were."
2) "...if you will."
3) "... the [X] that is [Y]" (e.g.) "The powerhouse that is John Cale."

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

2) "...if you will."

i like "if you'll allow" better.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

SPORTSCASTER: [insert generic inquiry here]
ATHLETE OR COACH: No question about it, [insert generic answer here]

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

it JUST DOESN'T GET any better than this.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Bad usages are legion. So many people should die.
First, we kill the impact-as-verbers. Save impact for meteorites. Impacted for BOWELS.
On a daily basis.
To be perfectly honest (always preceding BIG FAT LIE).
Labor-intensive (childbirth?)
Empowerment.

Beth Parker, Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link

only one mention of "proactive"? and by that roger adultery guy

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

the one time i heard someone use the phrase "crunch some numbers" in total seriousness, it required every ounce of my strength to not annihilate him where he stood.

i will also echo the "rediculous" hatred and submit "definately" and all related butcherings of D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y, PEOPLE, for the love of...

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate it when people write 'tow the line' instead of 'toe the line'.

estela (estela), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link

"crunch some numbers" is kinda cute!

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Two things that totally drive me crazy:

1. Seeing "could of" or "should of" or "would of"
2. "The hell with..." - this can't be right. It must be "to hell with...", but I've seen the former version in print so many times I'm starting to wonder. But even if "the hell with..." is somehow correct, I still despise it with all my soul.

zayats, Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate it when people write 'tow the line' instead of 'toe the line'.

here here! (sic)

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Based on this thread, we are all guilty of follies and should be slain.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

It's been said that the disinterested/uninterested distinction is one that was called to attention by Fowler as a pet cause, and it's unknown whether it would be seen as such a bugaboo without his lead.

Geoffrey Nunberg in The Atlantic:

Unbiased and impartial will not do the work that disinterested used to be reserved for. But there is no point making a fuss about this change, because it was forgone that disinterested would lose its older sense once interested lost the sense of "having a stake in," which we retain only in the fixed phrase interested party. Even if disinterested had survived intact, therefore, it would eventually have become one of those curious asymmetric negatives like untoward and disgrace, whose senses are not recoverable as the sum of their parts. Invoking the second criterion, we should be prepared to admit that the fight on behalf of disinterested is a "lost cause," as Trilling described it. This may be an occasion for regret, but indignation would be out of place. Isaac Asimov writes, "I'm very proud of knowing the distinction, and insist on it, correcting others freely." The fact that being familiar with a distinction can be a cause for self-congratulation is, however, reason to eliminate it from the canons of standard usage, which should not be repositories of grammatical arcane.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate people who write "draw" instead of "drawer" (the things you store your cutlery in etc). DRAWER, people. IT ISNT A PEN.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

panties

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

when someone in the uk says 'do the math', my blood starts to boil.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I could have sworn I posted about my hatred of standard canned office speak such as "can of worms" and "head's up" on here already but I guess that was somewhere else. Also vile: "compelling". FUCK THAT don't tell me that something is "compelling", make it interesting to begin with.

Also, "That being said," and all variations of it. IF YOU WEREN'T RIGHT OR DIDN'T MEAN THE FIRST BIT WHY DID YOU EVEN SAY IT YOU ASSHOLE?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"one [Person's Name]" -- as in "Walking out of the coffee shop on Tuesday morning was one Spencer Chow." (Usually used to suggest some sort of eyebrow-raising "who should it be but.")

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Kyle, surely you understand the concept of ambivalence?!?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"can of worms" is office speak?

I should get a job

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

'No pun intended' annoys me. Usually it's said to someone who didn't intend to pun and can't be bothered with whatever pun is being inferred by the punster.

estela (estela), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Nabisco and Walter: Hey "Dudes", thanks! I went and read again about the ebonics "thing". I see your point. But if you cannot communicate and people cannot communicate with you how can you possibly learn math or anything for that matter?

Wiggy (Wiggy), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of the offending examples in this thread (excepting the marketing-speak) could be perceived as creative/colloquial/regional/whatever language and, while we all have our peeves, may not be incorrect per se.

Language witched up by human resource departments (ew) however, deserves its own special place in the fiery hereafter. I recently got an email at work that proudly held forth on our NEW AND IMPROVED orientation program for new employees...except, instead of boring old "orientation", they're launching the new term "on-boarding". As in, getting someone ON BOARD. If you sat within 20 feet of me you'd have heard teeth grinding, I tells ya.

Laurel, Friday, 19 August 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Recently, I've been exchanging e-mails with a girl I met online and every message from her contains AT LEAST one "anywho".

kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"Appies" for appetizers is an expression I loathe and is now so common it's showing up on menus.

everything, Friday, 19 August 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Argh I admit I say "that said..." a lot :/

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Usually because yeah I'm ambivalent, or at least trying to indicate I'm open to different POV on an argument. eg "well I think X, but that said, Y seems plausible too, so yeah". Etc.

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

people throughout my entire company overuse "due to" and do so incorrectly ALL the time. it makes me want to scream!!!

tehRZA gibbons (tehresa), Friday, 19 August 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, "That being said," and all variations of it. IF YOU WEREN'T RIGHT OR DIDN'T MEAN THE FIRST BIT WHY DID YOU EVEN SAY IT YOU ASSHOLE?

i take "that being said" to be an introduction to a follow-up statement, or a proviso. i appreciate the inverted-pyramid-style organization of thought here: lay down the most relevant information first, then start to put your own spin on things.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 19 August 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Appies" for appetizers is an expression I loathe and is now so common it's showing up on menus.

i'm sort of curious about the very english thing of diminutizing (infantilizing?) common nouns. "butty" and "sarnie" and "appie" and "footie" (although "footie" usually refers to aussie rules football, right?) and (to name a few where the diminutizations don't come with any shift in literal meaning) watching "telly," paying the "lecky" bill, getting a new "brolly" as a "pressie," etc.

i know i'm posting this on an "annoys the shit out of you" thread, but i have no problem with any of it!

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i think all languages might do this though!

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate when people say "just deserts" and I know if they had to write it down they'd spell it "desserts." Stupid fuckin' twats. People. I hate 'em. Also, it's not "Custard's" Last Stand. I mean, I'm almost positive some thinks it's "Custard," but it isn't. Okay? It isn't.

off 'is meds, Friday, 19 August 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know what you mean, s/c

RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

otm caitlin

tehRZA gibbons (tehresa), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:18 (nineteen years ago) link

It's late for this, but I really hated the whole "death of irony"/"end of irony" meme. You might say I hated it from ground zero.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i like this meme, but only in that irony is so tiring. maybe it's less annoying if you aren't surrounded by ironic morons in college.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"purposely" and "purposefully" are NOT THE SAME WORD, ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE, AND DO NOT MEAN THE SAME THING. STOP DOING IT. THANK YOU.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 19 August 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link


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