Background info: I went to a bar last night. My friend had never tried midori sours and I was like, 'wtf, you did go to college, right?' And now I have CORRUPTED her into liking the cheerleader drink, mwahaha.
― Abbott, Monday, 21 January 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link
How are you feeling about tipping this week?
Tip Jar Conundrum
Should I tip for a free drink?
Tipping again, non food
My secret technique for not tipping bartenders and getting good service.
― remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
You forgot:
tipping
― Abbott, Monday, 21 January 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link
by searching google for tipping trip, i just came up with a picture of my old cub scout troop
― remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
webelos at the tittybar
― sanskrit, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm on it
xpost
― elan, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
haha maybe not
― elan, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link
for me it's pretty simple - you tip because the waitstaff (here at least) get less than minimum wage, and if the 10 or so servers in rotation were each paid an extra $2 an hour to bring it into line, the price of the food you're eating would inevitably be more. so, tip because if other people didn't, you'd have to pay more anyways. other tippers are subsidizing your meal, in a way.
― negotiable, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlrnYoWW8IA
― El Tomboto, Monday, 21 January 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
and this week in lake wobegone…
― remy bean, Monday, 21 January 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link
those children are all above average
― El Tomboto, Monday, 21 January 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2302/2191192881_f591c42671.jpg
― chaki, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link
not NY, obv
― gabbneb, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Classic Ramzi.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, a tipping thread w/no mention of Mr. Pink and double that it's Ramzi? Awesome opportunity missed.
― libcrypt, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link
ok i would just like to point out: i was NEW, i didn't know how to sEARCH or whatever!
so, there ya go.
― Surmounter, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link
It's not the search function or whatever rule thingie. It's that you are totally Mr. Pink!
― libcrypt, Saturday, 10 May 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
not that i know Mr. Pink, but i'll take it -- BUT, i'm black too. just sayin.
― Surmounter, Saturday, 10 May 2008 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link
i basically have to wrangle customers into giving me tips here in nz. eg. the other night i had this gruff old dude who told me not to bother telling him/friend the specials because he knew what he wanted and there was no way his friend would order any of them. so i bet him $20 i could convince his friend otherwise and i won. he came back in last night and we upped the stakes: i had to get all three of them to order specials. i won again.
in many ways, the more of a challenge it is, the more satisfying the tip.
(i should admit that i make well above minimum wage at my job, so tipping ethics aren't really the same for me)
― Rubyredd, Saturday, 10 May 2008 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link
you convincer you
― Surmounter, Saturday, 10 May 2008 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if the situation in NZ will change anytime soon. Here in Wellington, bar staff don't seem to expect it. However, being a good Canadian by birth, raised on the 10-15% rule (before it went up), and a regular attender of bars, I always tip.
At a number of restaurants here, I see tip jars at the cashier, as it's often the case that you'll be served by more than one person and you often pay at the counter.
This might well be moot anyway. If you're paying by EFTPOS, for example, which seems to be more and more the norm, you're probably "tipping" your bank and cold hard cash or coin may never enter the equation.
― tvdisko, Saturday, 10 May 2008 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link
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god i miss changeable user names!
― tehresa, Saturday, 10 May 2008 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link
QUESTION:
if you have no change for a good tip, is it better to tip £1 on a £22 bill or nothing at all?
― czn, Saturday, 10 May 2008 09:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I think nothing at all is better: it's like spitting in their faces if you give a pound.
My dad tipped 7 euros (on 88 euros) for takeaway. Which is very uncommon in Belgium. hah
― stevienixed, Saturday, 10 May 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
so i bet him $20 i could convince his friend otherwise and i won
lol genius.
Sometimes America's tip-happy culture strikes me as kind of gauche or unctuous or something. (I tip anyway.)
― wanko ergo sum, Saturday, 10 May 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I kind of hate at a coffee shop when the jar says "starving college students fund" or something. "But I'M a starving college student." Which is why I'm buying coffee at a coffeeshop, of course.
― Abbott, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
this economy doesn't have time for your identity politics
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link
No one has time for an Abbott anymore.
― Abbott, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Me and the railroads, waning in this world of euros...
― Abbott, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Why don't they tip (poorly paid) salespeople? I'm serious, why doesn't this happen????????????????
― stevienixed, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Salespeople aren't as poorly-paid as servers. They're guaranteed at least the minimum wage, where servers earn $2.35/hour. In the event that a server doesn't make enough in tips to reach the minimum wage for a shift, the restaurant is supposed to make up the difference (never heard of this actually happening, though, even on the occasion when a waiter had two tables for the entire night, etc.)
― milo z, Saturday, 10 May 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
why not just make it mandatory to pay the minimum wage and let them raise the prices?
― darraghmac, Saturday, 10 May 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
You could do that, but to what end? Just so people wouldn't have to figure out how to divide by five in their head?
Servers would actually be getting $12-15+ an hour. You've just quintupled labor costs for the front of the house - and restaurants would have to make up the tip out that goes to hosts/bussers/bar staff as well.
Final cost to the patron is probably the same, it would help some waiters (bad ones, or unlucky ones) and hurt some good waiters (who make more by virtue of bigger sections, better tips). Kind of pointless to overhaul an entire industry for that.
― milo z, Saturday, 10 May 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
why is the industry different to begin with? these people are working at the bar/restaurant, so why aren't they paid like a normal employee?
and you're omitting that it would also charge everyone equally for the service costs, not just good tippers.
good waiters will still get tips, at least they do where i'm at (where service charges are usually included, and servers are subject to a reasonable minimum wage) and at least others would be getting a living wage fram a shitty job.
― darraghmac, Saturday, 10 May 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
^^good point. like i said, i actually get paid really well in comparison to the rest of the hospo industry in NZ, but i still get tips occasionally. during our busiest time of the year i probably make an average of NZ$3-5 p/hr in tips, but now that we're hitting winter it's about NZ$2 p/hr.
― Rubyredd, Saturday, 10 May 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link
xp - Tradition. Don't know what to tell you - I'm sure there are studies and studies on the History of Tipping In America. The history is irrelevant, though - what incentive is there to change the system drastically? What's the big deal?
I've never known a waiter (above the level of Denny's) who wasn't averaging a living wage. That's the draw of serving in the US - despite the stress and aggravation, it pays pretty well compared to jobs of its class.
― milo z, Sunday, 11 May 2008 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link
A good waiter at a nice restaurant can make a good living in most cities. Most of my waiter/bartender friends make way more than I do, and tax free at that!
― ian, Sunday, 11 May 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I know a guy who tends bar 4 shifts a week and brings home $900 -$1000 each week... and the bar is beer/wine only! can you say E-Z!?
― wanko ergo sum, Sunday, 11 May 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/food/2008/07/oh_no_british_people.html
― mookieproof, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
LOL
― gabbneb, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Comments are hilarious.
― jaymc, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder what this waiter has a degree in?
― jel --, Monday, 28 July 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
neat gin? stout fella
― blueski, Monday, 28 July 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link
He should just stop being so passive aggressive.
― jel --, Monday, 28 July 2008 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Germans were always much worse than Britishes
― milo z, Monday, 28 July 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Didn't expect to find myself writing the phrase "Tory even by Comment Is Free standards" today, but looks like I just did
― DJ Mencap, Monday, 28 July 2008 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
hmmm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/magazine/12tipping-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print
― Mr. Que, Friday, 10 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Under the old system, waiters earned between $25 and $35 an hour, much of which was untaxed. “Now, waiters make about $25 an hour, which is fully taxed,” Boyd says.
Fuck a bunch of that.
― sad man in him room (milo z), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
i had a horrendous experience at a bar a few weeks ago. don't think i posted about it -- basically, a bitchy bartender told me off for requesting her cheapest beer. she thought i wasn't gonna tip her, but the whole point was that i wanted a cheap drink so i could like, afford a tip. so after she refused to serve me at first, and gave me all the lip (it was awful), i refused to take the beer. then her friend asked me to leave and i said no, i'm here for a friend's birthday and that's stupid. then their guy friend came up and was like, uh, she was just a huge bitch to him, leave him alone. and he gave me a free beer. new york is fucked.
― Surmounter, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
what bar was this at?
― Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link