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Which exonerates Brand and Ross how?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

They're both cunts, I'll be happy if their careers are in tatters.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually like both of them when they are doing what they are good at, though both have strayed way from their comfort zone through the media's insistence on overexposure of "popular" celebs (see also Myleene Klass, Anton DuBeke, Carol Vorderman, Kerry Katona, Katie Price, Jade Goody, etc etc etc) to the point where they think they can get away with anything because they are so popular and loved, when basically they were just liked for doing what they used to do before they got turned into poster children for taking the fucking piss and irritating the fuck out of everyone with their omnipresence.

ailsa, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:55 (sixteen years ago) link

HI DERE I HVAE BAALSACK!

THE AMAZING RUSSELL (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The video footage of them making the calls immediately made me think of Derek and Clive.

"I'll be happy if their careers are in tatters" - come off it Matt, if you were them you'd love every second of this and you want their lifestyle so much, as do we all. Be honest!

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link

OH NO LAST NIGHT I DID A POO ON UR GRANDDAGHTER'S FLANGE

JONU R (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"I'll be happy if their careers are in tatters" - come off it Matt, if you were them you'd love every second of this and you want their lifestyle so much, as do we all. Be honest!

what does the first bit have to do with the second bit?

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Not as easy as it looks, is it, Ken?

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link

apropos Brand impersonation

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 10:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Their careers in tatters = even more airtime for Graham Norton.

ailsa, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't say I do want their lifestyles, actually; I'm by nature a reasonably quiet and lazy homebody, and I don't imagine either of them has a great deal of time for lolling around with kittens.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i can get paid £6m talking about my balls, but i also wish other people don't get paid £6m talking about their balls (or mine). i'm being v honest.

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

if you were them you'd love every second of this

erm, Brand didn't look like he was loving too much of it on the footage of him being hounded by journos. Just repeating Krishna over and over, very nervous.

And FUCK if you think we ALL want his lifestyle, how can you make such a bollocks claim?

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

xposts it was very easy

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

how can you make such a bollocks claim?

correct term is ballsack.

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Marcello was being facetious, dudes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

no wai matt.

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i can get paid £6m being facetious.

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't say I do want their lifestyles, actually; I'm by nature a reasonably quiet and lazy homebody, and I don't imagine either of them has a great deal of time for lolling around with kittens.

Jonathan Ross has a great deal of time for lolling around with his little pugs and whathaveyou, dressing his dog up in stupid clothes forms quite a large part of his patter on his Friday night show. He's not been terribly controversial up until this point, has he? (I'm assuming this now to actually be controversial, even though I think it's bollocks). Agreed that Brand looked a bit uncomfortable outside his house, but I think he often does seem uncomfortable for one supposedly so egotistical.

ailsa, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, look at Jonathan Ross. Plenty of fuck you money, the freedom to do what he likes how and when he likes, he can buy all the games and gadgets he wants (buy? he probably gets them all sent to him free) and be a total geek with them. And he's probably a lot more of a homebody than he gets credit for. What's not to want?

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

The video footage of them making the calls immediately made me think of Derek and Clive.

so it turns out jayne mansfield did have someone to push lobsters up her arse.

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The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish I could get paid to talk about my hair, watch films, and have a wife with a nice cleavage.

I already do the first two.

Autobot Lover (jel --), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Ambition, Jel, ambition!

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(xpost) your wife has just filed for divorce, and hired Max Clifford to be her publicist for the ensuing tabloid shitestorm...

snoball, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

He's not been terribly controversial up until this point, has he?

He made the front pages after asking David Cameron if he ever wanked to pictures of Thatcher, apart from that I think the major controversy as far as Daily Mail World is concerned is his wages.

Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder why he never asked the late Alan Clark? He would have got a positive response, probably.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link

was led to believe Brand's on air response to CBB racism was "there's been some right bad racism abaht today and no mistake my liege, it's made Mr Winkie shrink right up into my balls it has, and my balls have only gone and gone up me arse" or similar, now feel betrayed

Glans Christian Christian christian Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link

If it's wishing to be something you're not - aim a little higher.

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

When it's written out like that you realise that Brand's not that far removed from Wogan, just with added scatology.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, Wake Up With Wogan is literally two hours of "and no mistake my liege."

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay don't even go there comparing Wogan to Brand

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh no. Brand's way funnier.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, he's no Fred Macaulay, I'll give you that...

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

JBrand today: "The Beeb..beeceee... in it's infinite wisdom...shalom..."

XPOST YEAH! LET'S GO comparing Wogan to Brand

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Ross Abbot was in the Sarah Jane Adventures on Monday! In 20 years, Brand will be doing the same!

Autobot Lover (jel --), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Wogan - septuagenarian disc jockey and unpleasant little right wing creep on the quiet who's traded off the same limited range of sub-Flann O'Brien whimsicalities for the best part of forty years.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Top stories from the Beeb

Woman loses assisted suicide case
Scores dead after Pakistan quake
Jonathan Ross TV show to go ahead

Cool Hand Tiller (onimo), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Still in the wrong order.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Jonathan Ross dead after assisted suicide

Fake Tuomas (ken c), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

"But Sir David Attenborough, due on as a guest, says he is "discussing the situation with the BBC"."

Cripes.

Autobot Lover (jel --), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Russell Brand might have to be a filler guest. David, don't give 'em your mobile number.

Autobot Lover (jel --), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I understand Ricky Ger-vay is on standby.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

So, if he drops out.. Hmm, who can they get at short notice, that would be reasonably expected to make ratings thicksoup?

xpost damn gave it away the punchline...

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link

suddenly this has somehow turned into lose-lose!! how have they done this?

i actually have some sympathy for brand here; when you read what was actually said, brand was just running with something ross started - if ross hadn't raised the bar of blunt offensiveness so high at the beginning brand wouln't have had to go so far to "top" him, which is what these things always turn into

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"overpaid drivelling celebs" - bit of envy there, Simon?

hahahah: of course there is! somewhere out there, maybe even lurking over this thread, is an ageing ILX0r with whom i once tried very hard to be funny on the radio ... sometimes, maybe for mere seconds at a time, we just about managed it. so yeh, as someone with a short and unimpressive history in radio (not just at a student level, either), i'm envious of people who are more talented than i am. i think that's natural.

where i get pissed off is when the talent stops trying. i've repped for RB round these parts more than once: i think he has the capacity to be a wonderful comedian, and his live show a couple of years back was magnificent. however ... well, nick nails it:

I think both are occasionally very funny indeed, but both are also massively prone to indulgent and aimless ego-stroking wittering. The two together is like a pair of schoolkids egging each other on to swear so much the teacher gives them detention. Which is kind of pathetic given how potentially talented they both are

this is the point at which envy of talent/justified success gives way to something more base and basically jealous, ie: dude, how the fuck are you getting paid so much for this shit?

i mean, prank calling is feeble. i remember doing it when i was a kid: bored shitless at a mate's house after his commodore 64 overheated, we started ringing up the operator and being stupid. it wasn't funny then and it ain't funny now (fonejacker: that includes you).

JR, let's not forget, is the man who claimed -- tongue perhaps in cheek -- that he was worth a thousand BBC journalists. you know what? he might well be more talented than most of the other BBC talent. trouble is, nobody can remember any more because his schtick is about as lazy as it can be.

this isn't just about RB and JR; it's about what passes for comedy, or worthwhile broadcasting. (and yes, the fact that every newspaper and news programme is full of it also says a lot about what passes for news reporting!)

i'm meant to be writing a lab report. perhaps i should sack that and dig out my unfinished (barely begun) sitcom. it actually had a couple of jokes in it, if i remember rightly.

remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"Miss, he started it!"
"Yes but you carried on with it"

xp

ledge, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I took the "thousand journalists" comment as a sort of rap faux-braggadoccio. If he meant it then he really is a jerk. But somehow I don't think he is, except for that jibe at Rod Hull at the Comedy Awards whatever year of the nineties it was, even though that was scripted.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, I hope he learned from that particular misjudgement.

synths and drum machines (e.g. Simmonds) (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Ar age 16, stoned out of our minds, we looked up teachers' phone numbers at 4am in the local directory. Found our (youthful, leftwing) English teacher's number. Called him. Asked if he'd ever licked a dolphin. Hung up. Seemed like the funniest fucking thing of all time, at the time. Not so much later.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

And they've been suspended.

A country only rich people know (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link


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