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Is Jimmy White still in it?

― The Horse of Babylon's Butler (the pirate king), Saturday, 23 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I thought paul hunter was on 'playing it straight'.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Stephen Lee is hopefully going to lose to Peter Ebdon. I really don't like Stephen Lee very much

Hmm, but wanting Stephen Lee to lose would mean wanting Crazy Eyes Edbon to win.

Alan McManus should have "nearly man" on his waistcoat. Umpteen years in the top 16 despite being Not Very Good.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Jimmy's still in but 5-3 down against Matthew Stevens. Currently on the baize, Ken Doherty and Alan McManus are at 10-apiece, while John Higgins leads Shaun Murphy 4-2.

Hmm, but wanting Stephen Lee to lose would mean wanting Crazy Eyes Edbon to win.

Yeah, but I really, really don't like Stephen Lee very much. I'm not quite sure why, he just seems like such a stunningly joyless man. This impression may have been augmented by the 'Stephen Lee Snooker Skills Challenge' video on the BBC website, though.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

shaun murphy's hit some pretty beautiful pots tonight!!!

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and for UK peeps, every single match is being broadcast on the internet. Only for the UK though. Dunno why.

This is pissing me off! I want to watch this! How do they determine UK users, by IP address?

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I think it must be done by ip address. You could always fake it.

John Virgo just said that McManus has potted 26 out of 26 rest shots so far, which is very impressive. McManus 11-11 Doherty, Higgins 4-4 Murphy.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Presumably the broadcast rights are sold outside the UK which is why they don't want live feeds available.

― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Saturday, 23 April 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Probably the case - snooker's becoming very big in Asia, for instance, particularly China.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

If they could exclude non-UK ip addresses, they could include addresses from countries that don't broadcast the sport. (And if any US cable channels are carrying snooker, I'll eat my hat.)

How do I fake a UK ip address?

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

It's not so much that they could let countries where it isn't on TV see the streams, George, as that the BBC probably don't have the right to broadcast it outside of the UK and would be in trouble for doing so.

― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Nice couple of frames there from McManus to take it 13-11.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

There are loads of fake ip utilities around. I have no idea how good they are as I've never used one. Googling will give you a million hits.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Steve Davis' mic is making a noise like a lightsaber.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 23 April 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Couldn't believe how bad Ken was last night - such a complete contrast to his first round display.

some good matches so far but nothing quite close enough to the drama of ronnie vs maguire in the first round...

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 24 April 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

Stephen Lee has had a sodding awful peroxide job done on his hair. He now looks like Lee Trundle except even fatter. That said, he's also 5-1 up on Ebdon.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 April 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Lee leads Ebdon 6-2 in a match that the Beeb describes as 'desperately slow'. Williams 5-3 up on McCulloch.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 24 April 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, it's all kicking off again. Shaun Murphy has disposed of John Higgins 13-8 and apparently looked very, very handy in the process. Matthew Stevens beat Jimmy 13-5. Ebdon and Lee are 9-9 and Mark Williams leads Ian McCulloch 11-9 having been 9-7 down.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

The last two spots in the quarters go to Peter Ebdon, who ground out a 13-9 win over Stephen Lee, and Ian McCulloch, who came back to beat Mark Williams 13-12. The Draw:

Ronnie O'Sullivan - Peter Ebdon
Shaun Murphy - Steve Davis
Stephen Hendry - Matthew Stevens
Alan McManus - Ian McCulloch

You suspect it's gonna be a Ronnie-Hendry final, but the way things have gone so far this does actually look a bit open...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Steve Davis has been eating red meat. I think he could go all the way.

― Failin Huxley (noodle vague), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Was a good show by Ian McCulloch... The rest of the Bunnymen must be proud. Maybe it will be a Joe Johnson-style year.

I would love it if Steve Davis went all the way, but I've been eating red meat too and I'm not likely to; however, Shaun Murphy looks pretty handy too. Could be quite exciting.

― KeefW (kmw), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

i'm totally supporting shaun murphy now, despite being a big fan of the nugget

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

so yesterday wz the best day since the first -- mcculloch-williams being the pick.

hoping for a stevens-sullivan final: wouldn't know who I'd want to win if that happened.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

That's a pretty good 1/4 final line up. I wouldn't bet against McCulloch at the moment - he looked excellent against Williams(some superb long pots under pressure).

Most of my heart is with Davis (for old times sake), but my head says O'Sullivan or Stevens.

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I'm gonna post the odds:

O'Sullivan: 4/5
Stevens: 5/1
Hendry: 9/1
Murphy: 11/1
McCulloch: 18/1
Ebdon: 25/1
McManus: 45/1
Davis: 200/1

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

The Nugget is getting munched - Murphy 7-1 up after the first session. Stevens leads Hendry 5-3.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Watching McCulloch-McManus now - there's something very unsettling about Ian McCulloch. He looks like he's constantly on the verge of chinning someone. He leads 6-5, though, but this twelfth frame looks like continuing for bloody ages...

Elsewhere, Murphy beat Davis 13-4, and Stevens beat Hendry 13-11.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

and as I say that, McCulloch takes it to lead 7-5 at the mid-session interval, coming back from 5-3 down at the start of play. McManus is reverting to type, it appears.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

omg peter ebdon what a dick!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Too right...

― KeefW (kmw), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

What's he done?

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

He's only just knocked the rocket out.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

And the crowd go mild.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

And, yes, watching this interview, Peter Ebdon may be one of the biggest cunts in sport.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

he kept taking minutes and minutes for shots and put ronnie off

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Right, Stevens-Murphy for the final, I'm reckoning. Because Ebdon-McCulloch would be a bit much to bear.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

he kept taking minutes and minutes for shots and put ronnie off

Five minutes for a break of 12.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

i felt like i was taking dirty money - when ebdon got to 13-11 i put in £5 for ebdon to win. £1.30 isn't worth the guilt.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Predictions for what O'Sullivan's gonna do now? Retirement? Suicide bid? Some Bobby Fischer kinda ish?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

he's going to start learning to play with his left leg

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

He's got to go through that awkward period of growing your barnet out after shaving it now, though. The "monkey hair" period.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

he's taking a year off to grow his hair back

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

You notice the two cuts on his forehead?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

yup! from his FINGERNAILS!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

oh wait.. what i meant to say is

RONNIE'S BUSTED WIDE OPEN!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Bloody hell. Murphy's one frame away from the final (16-12 up), and is playing like... well, like Ronnie. he's just put away a 123 break, and he was just flowing. If the final involves him, my weekend plans have just been sorted.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 30 April 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

ronnie is bad for the game.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

i thought he's the only thing good about the game for years.

― ken c (ken c), Sunday, 1 May 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I didn't catch ebdon-o'sullivan. maybe that worked out ok...the thing with o'sullivan is that you never know when he's doing self-deprecation or playing mind-games, as I thought he was when talking to the BBC after the maguire match: an 'interview' that looked more like a counselling session. But after this something might not have been quite right and Ebdon, who has won the title by playing great snooker before, exploited a weakness when he saw it; that's what great match players do, and args like people weren't given the fast game that they want don't hold up. you do what you have to. and could the referee, by using the rules that effectively would've compelled him to tell ebdon to hurry up have saved him? If O'sullivan had kept his cool like Murphy it would have been a diff story but he may not have been in the right frame of mind. And I say this as someone who really likes o'sullivan and watched in awe as he killed stephen hendry in the UK final when he was what, 17? 19? all those years ago...

but anyway, I thought the last frame of the mcculloch-stevens semi-final is a gd indication as to how the final might go. stevens playing tight and forcing his opponent into mistakes, with stevens potting the long red offered, and potting every single time. Murphy is a great potter but his tactical game isn't quite good enough right now. Stevens has been a great match player and as long as his nerve holds he'll win.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 1 May 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

First frame of the final lasted over 30 minutes. Murphy thought he'd wrapped it up early, but Stevens chose to return to the table with two snookers required. Stevens duly got both snookers, which set up a very tense safety battle, which only ended when Murphy snookered Stevens back. Next frame Stevens cleaned up in a businesslike fashion. Currently 43-20 to Stevens in the third frame.

― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 1 May 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

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