^^^we need to use that word more
'recidivist' had me confused for ages
― william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link
great thread!
― plax (ico), Monday, 5 April 2010 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link
in quiet moments i have turned to ilx for words to websterise & learn online, it's good to have another depository for them
― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Monday, 5 April 2010 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought sallow meant pale in a way that could be complimentary. O shi.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 5 April 2010 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
this reminds me, when I went to apply for chinese courses at my uni, I wanted to explain to them that I was illiterate (couldn't read or write but could speak and hear pretty well). so I told them I was a 流氓 when I meant to say 文盲 - the former means bastard or hoodlum. ;_;
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 5 April 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link
We must spread the word 'insaniacked' all over the interweb. I will do my part.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 5 April 2010 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
obdurate
― symsymsym, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
learning new meanings for words you thought you knew is also key too for this thread. for example 'the standards obtain' etc.
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i tried following the whole "hauntology" thing a few years ago and never really figured it out.
― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
that's made up tho
― goole, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/pepper_pug.jpg
whiney always assumed "hauntology" was a red flag for "i'm a hackademic windbag" and unsubscribed all those blogs from my RSS reader
― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
what bugs me are those phrases that are used in fancy-like writing that everybody seems to accept even tho they make no sense. like "must needs". what the fuck is that about.
xp lol well "hackademic" isn't that much better
― goole, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, jargon. bleh.
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
jargon is the opposite of copacetic in my experience
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
also very relieved to confirm that callow meant what I thought it meant, this thread had me hardcore second-guessing
?? jargon is great, wtf
― goole, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
gimme a bona fide colloquialism over corporate jargon any day of the week
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
jargon tends to be unnecessarily obfuscatory, it's basically like "this knowledge is all that makes me special, ergo I will make up a language for it so that I look prettier"
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
totes^^^
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
also lingo > > jargon
hauntology was late derrida's poisonouse gift to the english langauge, latterly revivified as terrible hackademic crit theory meme & silly english chillwave analog
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
poisonouse
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes jargon is a good and necessary thing, other times you have things like the medical profession's predilection towards turning everything under the sun into an acronym (commonly referred to by doctors as "TEUTSIAN").
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha derridas is trolling over in his grave
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
--for some reason had to always look up "self-aggrandizing" before deployment---could never remember if it was a good thing or a bad thing.
--embarrassingly misused "effete" once in HS but can't really remember the details
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
leave me out of this, HI DERE
haha sorry, I could throw daggers at the computer profession as well but instead of being funny it would just be sad and pathetic
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"shop talk" >>> technical argot >>> lingo >>>>>>>>> jargon
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
by the way, I never knew what excelsior was until I came here, and even now I'm still mystified as to why it means what it currently means on this board
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
itt...wood shavings
i really, really love listening to professionals talkin in their secret pro twin talk
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
hantavirus intrauterine diuretically excreted relapse emissions, apparently
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
'quincunx'
― thomp, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i love acronyms
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
whoah had no idea about excelsior---always associated it with stan lee, tbh
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
language evolves because people want to express things easily. people who are engaged in a specific activity necessarily end up in their own linguistic sub-world. i don't think anyone comes up with jargon for the hell of it.
― goole, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
excelsior means higher and somebody used to shout it on a mtn? r something, dunno why it means what it means on ilx either
― plax (ico), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"excelsior" as used on this board means "that witty bon-mot so amused me that I spat tea onto my keyboard and shorted it out, giving myself enough of a shock in the process that I have also soiled myself and now have to explain to my boss why I need to buy emergency underwear and pants in the middle of the day without also tipping him/her to the fact that I waste all day making jokes on the internet instead of doing what they're paying me for"
― STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
idiolectal looool xenocentrism
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Excelsior: also the motto of NY.
― kate78, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think anyone comes up with jargon for the hell of it.
probably not, but some jargon can be used to conceal meaning from the uninitiated
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
language evolves because people wanna talk about the same shit in a different way
― ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
and i'm trying to think of an example of jargon that makes meaning "easier" for all involved
― Mr. Que, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread is very informative btw
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
boo hoo!
― goole, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I think you meant "blood diamonds"
also, annoying abbreviations aside, i love the precision of medical language, even if it is dense. kinda have to walk a fine line between colloquial explanations and high-test medicalese, though, when telling patients stuff, i think---some ppl hear plain talk and think yr a quack (cf Louis CK's bit on "head full of cancer"), others hear impenetrable lingo and think yr a hoity-toity know-it-all a-hole
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
eh i think a lot of the time jargon comes from trying to have a word that more narrowly means something than its synonym but without partic baggage from other contexts that those synonyms are also used in that might confuse what u r talking abt.
― plax (ico), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
american military pentagonese is the worst, full of wtf acronyms for scary weapons and strategies
― nakhchivan, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
interestingly enough, I think the density caused by the precision of medical language (which I also think is awesome) is a direct causal influence on its propensity towards acronyms (which I find kind of funny)
xp: oh yeah, nobody acronyms like the military, although there I can see a stronger reason for speaking in obfuscatory terms as it's basically like training your force to speak in cyphers
― Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Monday, 5 April 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link