David Lynch - Classic or Dud

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at the Prince Charles? Have a bit of a love/hate relationship with that cinema..

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw it coincidentally a couple of nights before his death was announced, on dvd. It was fabulous, of course.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

giggling i can understand, sure, but not riotous laughing. i couldnt tell if it was film nerds showing how clever clever they were or just stupid people unable to treat it seriously. it was at the pcc yeah. i do like that cinema a lot, but sometimes you get some really fucking weird people there. eg - when i saw funny games one guy (maybe he was there last night too) just kept laughing at some of the most disturbing moments!

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

laughing at david lynch is not even on the same scale of inhumanity as eating at nandos

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

What about Chipotle? They opened one up on Charing Cross road recently, and embarrassing as it may be for myself, the food was awes for what is what.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

*what it was.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i know nothing about chipotle

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

not tried that chipotle yet but i plan too soon
hopefully it wont be as bland as the mexian places in angel though

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

oh I went to one of those! just opposite the station. it wasn't BAD.

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Thought it was better than Benito's Hat/El Burrito on Goodge, if you've been there.

My own barbecue slays Nando's anyday, but I do have a soft spot for the sauces on that counter.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Back to Lynch...I watched Twin Peaks s1 the other week. I mean it was good and certainly kooky but far from amazing....worlds worse than say Soprano/Wire/Mad Men class of 00s.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

pfft.

circa1916, Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

david lynch's film in general can be VERY funny -- and yes, this includes blue velvet (and yes, even some of the more disturbing moments). if anything, this is one of the reasons why i've come to love lynch's films so much.

(whether it's reason for people to laugh HYSTERICALLY at anything, though, that's another matter.)

about as twee as a being beaten with a phone book (Eisbaer), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Tad! Sorry I didn't respond to your ILXmail; suffice to say I've gotten off my arse and have stuff in the pipeline now. Hope you're kicking on!

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

not a problem, acoleuthic :-) glad that you're doing what you're supposed to do ... i kid you sometimes, but you're good people!

now back to david lynch ...

about as twee as a being beaten with a phone book (Eisbaer), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

which one should I see next if I've only seen BV and MD and regard both as titanic (esp latter)

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely get eraserhead. which can be pretty funny too, if you look at it a particular way.

about as twee as a being beaten with a phone book (Eisbaer), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, I've heard I'd probably love that one too

Inland Empire is the one I really want to see though

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

^^I've got that, waiting for the perfect time to watch it though.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

double-date imo

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i hated that

though like most DL things i might like it more now

though watching BV on a big screen yesterday just made me think id still rather watch lynch direct a film thats made on er film rather than DV

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Naomi Watts + Laura Elena Harring double-date

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Definitely would've been amazing to watch Inland Empire at the bfi or somewhere with a rapt audience. In fact, I'm surprised they haven't done a Lynch retrospective season yet.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha you want me to corrupt my principles here dontcha

also what happens when they end up making out with each other

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

we make a DIY Mulholland Drive 2: North West London

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Holloway Rd

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

actually i think IE might be better suited to watching at home on dvd
actually no, youtube is probably a better medium
watching it at the cinema i think is what made me hate it more

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

oh wait North West

Uxbridge Rd

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Exactly, what is London's Mulholland Drive/Sunset Blvd? Haverstock Hill?

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Either way, ILM is one of the most effective procrastination tools on planet Earth. :/

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

West Cross Way?

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Holland Park Ave

^^^Ave can also be Latin for 'hai' and Average, DOUBLE MEANINGS, also Holland is in the initial title

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

let's do this, where are attractive lesbians, sinister cowboys and expert mimes

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Only know NW + around my uni well, dude. There actually is a London in Literature module on my course but I liked the sound of Literary Linguistics more.

Holland Park def has a ring! Nandos is where the creepy man behind the car park lives.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh man that cowboy...what was his significance. do you think? Sent a chill up my spine when he appeared in that party sequence near the end.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah and where Naomi Watts really works (I always thought the barista in the opening 20 minutes and her either WERE the same actress, or should have been)

xp

Cowboy's significance? To deliver a fucking amazing speech, and to signify Classic Hollywood as a sort of ancient mafia, employing its own grandiose fixers to protect its fantastical domain?

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

and to signify Classic Hollywood as a sort of ancient mafia, employing its own grandiose fixers to protect its fantastical domain?

yeah this, film probably opens up and deepens some kind of resonance if you've lived or spent a lot of time in Hollywood. It is Wilder's Sunset Blvd's nightmare twin.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I wrote a lot about this interpretation of the film in the Mulholland Drive thread - it definitely is about the idea of 'the classic Hollywood movie' - showing the frail scaffolding of the concept and yet being one

am watching Youtubes of this guy's talks on Transcendental Meditation - is this shit as potent as he makes out?

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

SB is much worse though and delivers nowhere near the same mystical punch.

I'm interested though in films which present a similar vibe and setting to this, though. How about Robert Altman's Short Cuts?

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost I'll seek out that thread. MD is definitely a film to savor and grow old with, but one of my own cinephile philosophies is that for every film you watch for a second or third time you could watch something new. Hah maybe that seems quite entry-level but I hate to be the guy who's seen MD 134 times.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I almost always find once is enough, for films. Maybe I'm weird.

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Although to refute that, I love watching a real favourite film with a guest, for the dual motion of personally introducing them to something new, and enjoying the screening with them. I saw MD with my 17 year old brother recently and alas he hated it!

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, gotta get to work. Your degree is good at the moment?

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Although to refute that, I love watching a real favourite film with a guest, for the dual motion of personally introducing them to something new, and enjoying the screening with them.

yeah true, my best friend often rewatches a film with me present and I have been known to do the reverse. some of the greatest films I've seen...of course I'd see them again in different company. FEMALE COMPANY

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

My degree is OK, and I'm off to Dungeness for an interview tomorrow!

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

oooh with who? Or is it confidential? Hope to rack up some interviews this summer myself..

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

with a dude who runs a Bird Observatory there, and moonlights in a Top 40 indie-dance act

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Sounds very good, post MA...I guess this is like the true beginning of adulthood.

Davek (davek_00), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

lololol this IS my MA

post MA I don't have a fucking clue except that I'm starting a band

always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

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