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I love the editing mistake where dude teleports into the booth in the restaurant.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'M BACK!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(Jabootu's take on that is worthy of note:

Suddenly, due to an apparent splice in the master print from which this video was taken, Buz magically appears at the table in the middle of the conversation. (This kind of stuff never happens when they transfer Martin Scorsese’s films to video.) )

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

MY MIND! I USED TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MIND!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Nice PANTS."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Final Justice was on Sci-Fi this morning.

"Hey Malta... GET A TREE!"

― jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Last one I watched was Squirm.

"oh come on, nobody's THAT Southern!"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Snarf.

The final final ever TV broadcast of a MST episode is later this month -- The Screaming Skull of all things, but it does have that great Gumby short to go with it. Sci-Fi Channel decided not to renew the repeat contract alas, so after five years of a half-life the show will be permanently a tape/filetrade/DVD experience.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ohhh fuck! I should have been taping more! FUCK FUCK FUCKKKK! *cries*

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

karmically this is what I get for not being a dilligent enough MST fan. Fuck, I haven't even bought Side Hackers like I've been promising myself for ages. GOOCH!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

TSK. Well, check the file trade networks as mentioned, pretty much everything is encoded now aside from the absolute earliest of the KTMAs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this is awful! all i have is the boxsets and i feel so incomplete. :(

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

COUGH(S**ls*ek)COUGHCOUGH(Ebay).

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ebay?? hmmm....

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(Use "mst3k" in your ebay searches rather than "mystery science theater.")

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 10 January 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"junior rodeo daredevils" is some kind of peak of human endeavor

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"next week...geriatric rodeo"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"the home economics story" too.

"hey look, it's lou costello in drag."

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"Tool operator... tooooooool operatoooooor..."

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

My sisters were really nice to me and bought me bootleg tapes of four episodes, covering many of my favorites: Racket Girls, Village of the Giants, Girls' Town, and the Colossal Beast one with "Mr. B Natural" on it.

Rodeo Daredevils:
"You should see the boys with her at the dances."
CROW: "Yeah, they buck her off right away."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Creeping Terror's dance sequence ("here comes some juicy rump, a little more rump here, a little more rump there...") and their use of the lame music in the next skit for about nine hours or so.

Destroy: MST3K: The Movie. I'll take their claims that it basically halted their momentum cold at face value. And it's really not even a very funny episode. If it was in with the rest of the magnificent season six it would easily be the worst in the bunch.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: San Francisco International, really one of my two or three favorite episodes ever...

"Ah yes, the opulently appointed San Francisco International"

"Ditch him at the gate."

"That bitch, I'm the hostage!"

"I made-for-TV love you."

"Meet the new boss."

"The parents of the Beatles!"

... and that magnificent run of jokes at the expense of the kid whose mom is trying to let him down gently.

Mom: I'm going to try to explain this to you again, Jimmie.
SERVO: You're a loser and we're sending you away.
Mom: It's just that sometimes married couples need to spend some time away.
SERVO: Apart from their kids, I mean.
Jimmie: You're going to get a divorce, aren't you?
SERVO: Yes, and I don't want custody.

I could go on all day with this episode.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm going to miss my neo-Renaissance lifestyle...and my green jacket."

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 10 January 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"...my WINDBREAKER." < / pedant >

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, yes, I knew that line was wrong.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"junior rodeo daredevils" is some kind of peak of human endeavor

Old timer Billy Slater seems like he would be an unfortunate person to encounter.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I love you windbreaker. Do you love me?

Perhaps if we had a child.

Insert Tab A into B movie.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dig ME!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I realize now that this little riff session went on a bit longer...

Mom: I'm going to try to explain this to you again, Jimmie.
SERVO (as mom): You're a loser and we're sending you away.
Mom: It's just that sometimes married couples need to spend some time away.
SERVO (as mom): Apart from their kids, I mean.
Jimmie: You're going to get a divorce, aren't you?
SERVO (as mom): Yes, and I don't want custody.
Mom: Now you know that hasn't been decided yet.
CROW (as mom): Although because of you it's very likely.
Jimmie: Do we have to go now?
SERVO (as mom): You have to go now!

Also, another great line: "Here's your script. You'll be playing 'Black Woman on Plane'."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 January 2004 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

And Chris Fujiwara is so dead wrong. Just like Jonathan Rosenbaum was (sort of... his negative review of the MST3K movie wasn't exactly misguided, and he admitted to not being familiar with the show... but he still complained about the homo cracks which I grant were perhaps an overused crutch, but didn't strike me -- Mr. Touchy-Feely wrt Homophobia -- as anything to get hepped up about.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 January 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

When I was bored this week, I checked out "I Accuse My Parents!" which reminded me how much I love this show. I don't know if it's a 'classic' or not, but the reaccurring "It's my birthday!" and "I won an essay contest" jokes got me every time.

― NA (Nick A.), Sunday, 11 January 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, I want to hear more about this alleged homophobia on MST3K. I always assumed, by the way they handled it, that someone on staff was gay.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought in the later seasons it was Bill (certainly his character was meant to be gay insofar as he didn't actually have a body, but character does not equal actual person of course).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I settled on Trace, but figured I was probably wrong. I mean, it could have been Paul, but that's hardly exciting!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. But I like Paul. In the book Mary Jo mentions overhearing phone conversations with Paul as he pleads with a 'Debbie' over something, so who knows?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, well, uh...Trace was/is married.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Was he trying to get more snack cakes?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(I googled up a recent interview where Trace says he's not married but he does have a special lady.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how that makes it look like Trace got married to get more snack cakes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

All I'm saying is, god bless Canada.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

In any event, I never noticed any homophobia myself -- it was more like a sense of joking around with various social conventions of homosexuality (for instance, the concluding sketch of The Human Duplicators where Crow and Tom finally confess that they are robots, to Joel's lack of surprise [Tom: "But how did you know?" Joel: "It's MORE than a little obvious." -- which was almost exactly the conversation I had with a gay friend of mine who came out of the closet shortly before I starting watching the show!]).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, exactly -- that sort of thing (along with the way they teased out the lines in Frank and Forrester's relationship) made me think there was someone clued-in and sensitive. I can't really think of any offensive homophobic jokes.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It goes back indirectly to the point I made at the start of this thread -- the crew there had a total loathing for bullshit, and that surely includes homophobia. And given that a good number of the performers are religious (Mike and Bridget are Christian, Kevin was raised Christian and has been a Buddhist for many years, Joel is religious as well though I don't recall his specific beliefs), it's all the more wonderful and appropriate.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

are you guys serious? i love MST as much as anybody but making an emasculated, lisping gay caricature of any 'weak' charecter (the lab assistant in this island earth, for one example of many) usually seemed to take up half their jokes in any given episode

― diamond princess, Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

My sense of the jokes about that character was mostly because of his weenieness, surely.

(Oh, hi there Mr. Trife!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Trina, it's certainly there but I think you're overstating its frequency. Well, yeah.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, MST3K successful navigated the straits between "pansy" and "gay".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 January 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, in a number of cases they were clearly dealing with characters portrayed by the *films* as emasculated gay caricatures, etc. Thus for instance Mr. "I'm a Virgin" in The Pod People.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Like I say above there were a few things that bugged me, like the lesbian jokes in Racket Girls (none of them were offensive in of themselves, but gawd, so many) and a few lines I can think of here and there but it's nothing I dwell on. Even Buffy is more troubling for crying out tears.

BTW, "fembot" and "space swish" are my most favorite catty insults EVER.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris, do you have any idea how much I love/loathe the term "snack cake" ?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

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