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Wow, I don't remember that one. The number of actors who were on Seinfeld before becoming famous is pretty impressive, although the only ones I can remember right now are Jane Leeves (as "The Virgin") and the mom from That 70's Show (as Jerry's agent).

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:32 (twenty years ago) link

it's true though, if you have cable you're never far from an ep.

enrique I think the other cast members were jealous of seinfeld's creator/producer credit and the spectacular amounts of money he made from that

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

the episodes of the Simpsons which he wrote are the only watchable Simpsons

you are clearly wrong, and not only is EVERY simpsons episode watchable (even if they suck, which many do) the best were written by Conan O'Brien.

― Catty (Catty), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

Why do I have money for all these unread books and not for cable? I must be stupid.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

anyone catch the season premiere of Curb Your Enthusiasm last night?

― Chris V (Chris V), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, the effect of having the upstart comedian in Comedian was to make Seinfeld more sympathetic. The young kid was REALLY fucking obnoxious and full of himself.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, that was a little sketchy I thought--but it was interesting to compare the established comedian with the upstart

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

A quick search of imdb shows that the Denise Richards one was in season 4 (episode "The Shoes"), and that this weeks Paramount episodes will also be featuring Teri Hatcher and Megan Mullaly.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I just searched for that, too. I remember it now: she played Russell Dalrymple's daughter. Never knew it was her, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:42 (twenty years ago) link

The number of actors who were on Seinfeld before becoming famous is pretty impressive, although the only ones I can remember right now are Jane Leeves (as "The Virgin") and the mom from That 70's Show (as Jerry's agent).

also Janeane Garofalo, who i love love love, appears as the interviewer in the episode where George and Jerry get accidentally ovrheard while pretending to be gay - "...not that there's anything wrong with that!"

i have downloaded several episodes as mpg through Limewire - i dare say through Kazaa or soulseek you can get many more.

Greatest TV Comedy like, ever.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

That wasn't JG. She did appear in another episode as Jerry's dream girlfriend, though, who too loved cereal for lunch, dinner and in between.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Monday, 5 January 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

I heard that the problem with royalties was that the rest of the cast wasn't going to get any at all!

But yeah, I'll definitely get it on dvd. I liked Comedian a whole lot. The process of putting together his new act was interesting (especially the bits where he blanked out completely), but seeing all the snippets just made me want to see the complete product. I remember thinking that the commentary track was very good, but I can't remember why. Maybe just because Jerry is a funny guy and Colin Quinn is funny as an idiot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

hah - yes your right of course. I wanna see that cereal episode again.

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― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

the problem with DVD release, of course, is that there are around 180 episodes. Its a lovely thought though.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago) link

How many seasons are there? I'm sure they'll make a lot of money off them for a long time to come.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

Fucking BBC, shows repeats of Dad's Army that even I've seen six zillion times, and never any Seinfeld...

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link

I heard the hold-up on any DVD releases is due mainly to the cast negotiating for obscene amounts of money for doing the commentaries.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

tomorrow night is back to back last season of curb-YE on bbc3 or 4 or whatever digital back water is reserved for class shows

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link

Commenting on 180 episodes would be a bit of a chore!

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

its BBC4 for Curb Your Enthusiasm. i havent seen any of this yet.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

it's on at least three times a day where I live--i dont think the show would benefit from DVD--it's best when you randomly catch an episode every now and then, without any chronological perspective. having all that Seinfeld in one place would seem wrong.

― ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

ryan OTM

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 5 January 2004 18:30 (twenty years ago) link

well they should release it on DVD in the UK only then.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 5 January 2004 18:36 (twenty years ago) link

they wouldn't do the commentaries unless they got royalties was the thing

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 January 2004 19:04 (twenty years ago) link

Jerry Seinfeld does drop-in on old friend Larry David’s TV show
NEW YORK (AP) — Jerry Seinfeld will do a “pop-in” on his old friend, Larry David, this season on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
“But don’t blink,” David told Newsweek magazine for its Jan. 12 issue.
He said the comedian, with whom he created Seinfeld, showed up on the set during an episode set in Manhattan and makes a brief cameo, but wouldn’t elaborate.
The fourth season of the HBO comedy, which began Sunday night, stars David as himself: a cranky comedy writer. He figured he’d do 10 episodes a year, compared with the 23 required for a network series, and that production would take eight months at the most.
But even though the shows are mostly improvised, he found that writing 10 episode outlines takes so long, he has to start on a new season as soon as he finishes the last one.
“I’m working all the time,” the 56-year-old said. “It’s 51 weeks a year. I’m working more days on this show than I did on Seinfeld . . . It’s not OK at all! It’s the opposite of OK!”

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 January 2004 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

is that Larry David sitting on a bench in the background of the Seinfeld Chinese Restaurant ep? Also, all eps of Seinfeld in 1 place = that basketballer ep of CurbYE

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 10:18 (twenty years ago) link

I bought the first 3 series of CYE off eBay and they are a joy to watch.

We don't *need* commentary on Seinfeld, just give us all the episodes to watch when we want!

― Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 17 January 2004 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...

"and you want to be my latex salesman" was an ad-lib! neat.

amateurist, wow. incredible wrongness.

i revived this thread to say that "bizarro jerry" must be top 3, easy. i just saw it again and realized that it features
1. bizarro jerry ("does he live underwater? is he black?")
2. man-hands ("there's a beach towel on the rack...")
3. kramer's fake 9-to-5 ("you know this is my crazy time of year!")
and
4. the meat packing plant turned secret model hangout fortress ("i guess the dj booth was over there, by the bonesaw").

god, unbelievable.

― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

has there ever been another sitcom so much about language?

― m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i still have never seen the "bizarro" episode, despite having seen most of the series' run. someone needs to alert me when it's on.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...

larry david wrote some simpsons eps?!

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 April 2005 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Seinfeld is the best show
Because
A) IT has Larry David's Cerebral Humour
B) Jerry Seinfelds Absurd Humour
C) Kramers physicial humour
D) Apply all these to the Elaine character so they include the female sex also.
= THE ENTIRE HUMOUR SPECTRUM.
truly genius concoction.

― Nellie (nellskies), Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Kramer is awful. the show essentially grinds to a halt when he comes on. I want to like it more than I do, and there's the occasional funny line, but its really just a pale facsimile of Newhart's show, ennit?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

you are insane.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(also super-meta-ending of Newhart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super-meta-ending of Seinfeld)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

well that goes without saying.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(not sure what that proves though)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

you are insane.

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― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

what can I say, Kramer has never made me laugh - the humor seems so forced, this really clumsy combination of Harpo Marx and a thousand other sitcom "wacky neighbors".

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i like when he gets sand in his eye

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

shakey mo collier you are wrong

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

way upthread: like it gives their self-involvement some kind of splendor by association

i think you're in part right about this but "splendor" is the wrong word--it's just a slightly exaggerated parody of the meaningless things we find important. i mean people could be smug and watch seinfeld--but then i think they are missing the point, and it's not fair to judge something by its audience, esp a sitcom.

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

and part of what makes Jerry so funny, and his performance as an actor perfect, is that indestructible phoniness about him. he is the most completely shallow person to ever live! they even made an episode based around this premise! he's like an angel of death walking through new york...contrary to george's despicable humanity.

― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

funnier "wacky neighbors" than Kramer:
Exeter
Mr. Furley
Jim J. Bullock (I forget what his character's name was)
Larry, Darryl, and Darryl (ah, anagrams)

(also -10 million points for the slap bass)

Jerry/Larry is easily the best character on the show.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

jerry/larry?

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 30 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"a slightly exaggerated parody of the meaningless things we find important."

i think this was true once, back when a lot of the ideas within the show were stand up comedy material, but the sitcom style seemed to actually deify the shallowness it once parodied. i'm not sure sitcoms *have* to do that, just saying that "Seinfeld" did. To me that made it unlikeable and even undermined a sound basic premise - that the meaningless ticks people have really are intrinsically funny.

― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 30 April 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

jerry seinfeld was always the worst part of seinfeld.

― f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Saturday, 30 April 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone else notice that Jerry Seinfeld sometimes kind of quotes mannerism bits from Don Knotts as Barney Fife? There are quite a few times I have picked this up.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 30 April 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

neither jerry nor george are really complete characters--judging by Curb Your Enthusiasm I'd say they are the two sides of Larry David's personality.

― ryan (ryan), Sunday, 1 May 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Not really. George is clearly Larry David. The show could almost do completely without Jerry.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Sunday, 1 May 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

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