David Lynch - Classic or Dud

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What I've seen:
Eraserhead - classic
The Elephant Man - undeniably classic
Blue Velvet - halfway-to-classic
Wild At Heart - rather odd, but it gets more classic as it progresses
Twin Peaks first season - undoubtedly classic



Therefore, Lynch = classic so far.

Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I watched Mulholland Drive again last night and was amazing by how much it actually makes sense.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, i thought the same when i watched it for about the 5th time last week.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

these days I think his only not-very-successful film is Lost Highway and at least that one looks cool

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

And has good music.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Explain to me how Mullholland Drive makes sense if it's a loop that begins where it ends.

Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i think "Wild at Heart" is awful.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Or am I thinking of Lost Highway?

Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

who said it was, Unfortunate Prankster?

xposts

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Mulholland Drive and Lost Highway share a structure, I think he just did it better in Mulholland Drive.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i've said that before. (xp)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i suppose Lost Highway is that to an extent.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

(it doesn't make any sense to me but i still like it)

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

One of these movies is a damn loop, right? I remember watching one thinking it was pretty good and wondering how it was going to end and then all of a sudden it was back at the beginning scene and the movie was over, which pretty much invalidated everything in between the beginning and the, uh, beginning.

Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i think lost highway is more explicit about it, iirc.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link

but Mulholland Drive isn't a Loop.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Double feature idea — Lost Highway and Head.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The imdb review of Lost Highway simultaneously spoiled and explained it to me! Never even thought of that!

Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, that's an excellent review!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

here's a quicktime .mpg of the Lumiere short.

http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NS8O0JGU9TKG240R4ERQ14KVV

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

i have a wmv of that that i dowloaded somehwere called "premonitions following an evil deed" (credited to "tulse luper"), and it has a couple segments before yours begins.

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

er that is i think the thing you uploaded there is incomplete

g e o f f (gcannon), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I have the Lumiere DVD if I can figure out how to copy part of it to MPG

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

you can find the short online for download! it's pretty easy.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i also found a hi-res version on limewire. it's really short, so it's not a big download.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

you're right, g e o f f, it's missing the cops sequence from the beginning. strange.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

the best review of The Straight Story I've read. Now I think he's a little more classic than before.

Also, has anyone noticed that the twins in the movie are "the Olsen twins"?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"Shut up, Danny!"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 18 June 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Lynch is on his T.M.-related speaking tour and appears at UCI tonight; my friend who is helping put this on has info about how you can tune in if you'd like:

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David Lynch live tonight from UC Irvine. Probably one of the smaller venues this tour has been at. (424 capacity). We're also hosting an overflow lecture hall next door with a live video feed of the event for those that can't get seats. For all of you out here worldwide, there's a live radio remote on KUCI.org

http://www.kuci.org/

supposedly also a video stream at

rtsp://128.195.138.185/dLynchlg.sdp

and a small version at
rtsp://128.195.138.184/dLynchsm.sdp

http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org

http://www.davidlynchtour.org

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 November 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

(Presentation begins at 7:30 PM Pacific Time, though he is one of three speakers in total and I'm not sure how the presentation itself is organized.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 5 November 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Why do people hate Wild at Heart so much? I was on TV last night, and I caught the second half. I love that movie! Even my normally stodgy roommate liked it. Are ya'll just grossed out by the greasiness of it all?

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I just get tired of it - its narrative leaps are nonsensical, there's no "forward motion" in the plot, and I don't care about the lead characters. I blame the source material - not a big fan of the way Gifford structures his stories.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

also, ilx be hating Nic Cage

Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

people hating nic cage must not understand just how fantastic raising arizona is.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I honestly don't get Lynch's appeal - I find his films cold, uninvolving, meaningless and boring.

Having said that I liked Twin Peaks, mostly because it was funny.

xpost - yeah he's great in that. And in Adaptation.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

i personally love wild at heart!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The Straight Story gets better and better; in its quiet way, as subversive as Mulholland Drive. What beautiful music – some of the best scoring I've heard in modern film.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

wild at heart is a comedy.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.skaityta.lt/img/KingStand.jpg

Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

wrong thread!

Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

and while lynch's films are, perhaps, cold & meaningless they're certainly not uninvolving or boring!

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

wild at heart is hot

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

don't jump back so slow, i thought rabbits were supposed to be fast.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

this is rockin good news

account settings (account), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

my dog barks some

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Enough jibber jabber, get me one (1) trailer for Inland Empire

Should've Never Give Jimmy Mod Money (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

He has a new animation DVD out, but I have a hard time paying money for some crappy Flash series he put together learning the program.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

wild at heart is a comedy.

i've thought of it as a david lynch airplane! movie, gags every 30 seconds. not all of them connect, but the ones that do are boffo. and since it's a lynch airplane!, it's also scary-weird, but that's just a different kind of gag. sherilynn fenn picking her brains out -- funny, disturbing or just icky? all of the above.

it's his Pop movie. i love it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

also, i think only some of his movies are "cold." eraserhead, maybe, although that's too dreamy to really be cold. dune is chilly, he didn't really engage with that one. and lost highway is definitely cold, which is what i don't like about it -- it's the only one of his movies that really feels nasty to me, and egregiously. blue velvet and mulholland drive are warm and dark.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

gypsy -- sherilyn fenn involved in any kind of picking is hot.

killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 16 March 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link


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