Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

filthy dylan, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)

How a candle works.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

Practically everything.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:20 (seventeen years ago)

that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character.

ILX MOD (musically), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:32 (seventeen years ago)

DO you have a Mac?

The best things about macs is that making any character is stupid easy.

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

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Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

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If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:11 (seventeen years ago)

That (most) BMWs are named according to engine size (I was a car freak as a child but never knew this until being informed by a German flatmate while I was a PhD student).

i.e. 318 = 3 series 1.8 litre engine etc.

krakow, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:54 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't know that black and green olives are identical, just different stage of maturity, until a few months ago.

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago. Likewise Lipps Inc.

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 07:59 (seventeen years ago)

I've got a mac and I still don't know how to do any of, um, ^ those ^

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:01 (seventeen years ago)

I end up going to wikipedia and copy-and-pasting when I want unusual characters

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:02 (seventeen years ago)

The cows-and-bulls thing, plus Adam Ant, are the only things on this thread that I do know

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:03 (seventeen years ago)

how to cook an artichoke properly

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

(a julia child recipe steered me right)

nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

How to tie my shoes (velcro, you see..)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 08:12 (seventeen years ago)

Didn't realise that Adam Ant was a pun, until a year or so ago.

^^^ this. Same with Sandy Shaw.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:34 (seventeen years ago)

Fay Fife of the Rezillos.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:35 (seventeen years ago)

(i.e. it's a pun on "I am from the town of Fife, my good fellow" in broad scots)

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:36 (seventeen years ago)

What's the Adam Ant pun? Adam Ant = adamant? If so... pretty lame pun.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:37 (seventeen years ago)

That's it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Tell that to Lai Mpun, the lead singer of Bangkok's Phleng Chat.

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:45 (seventeen years ago)

I am 33 and didn't know any of these things. Wait - how the hell DOES a candle work?!

Savannah Smiles, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:53 (seventeen years ago)

Same with Sandy Shaw.
OK I was 32 when I found out this was a pun.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:54 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know how to explain it but i used to think chickens had a really weird way of "mating", something to do with the rooster's legs. (!!?!?) :)

Ludo, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

I CRIED (G00blar), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:56 (seventeen years ago)

"that SHIFT + 6 = ^. I think I figured it out a month or so ago. I always wondered how people got that character."

^^^Dude, you beat me by a month. Thanks!

I once spent a half hour trying to eject a cd from a Mac before someone finally told me there's an eject button on the keyboard. I was going through all these crazy menus and preferences...

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:10 (seventeen years ago)

I think I was like 16 or 17 when I learned that cows and bulls were the male and female versions of the same animal and not two distinct animals.

What sort of seemingly basic facts did it take you a surprisingly long time for you to learn?

― filthy dylan, Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:30 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


I did not know that oxen were cattle until about a week ago.

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:23 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

loooool one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory.

I think I've done that Mac eject button thing too :(

Pronounced lapels like 'labels' for years until corrected but happily don't dress well enough to use it often

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:34 (seventeen years ago)

My girlfriend was shocked to learn, at the age of 33, that a 'Flea Circus' is actually a rather charming mechanical toy, and is in no way operated by any parasitic insects.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:56 (seventeen years ago)

Ismael, at the age of 32, is shocked to learn the same thing. This thread is getting embarrassing

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:57 (seventeen years ago)

WAT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flea_circus

Øystein, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 12:59 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins were as tall as humans until that march of the penguins movie

one of my friends thought this and it was since passed into running joke territory

no but seriously, what is this about?

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

i mean i can see that there's rarely anything to size them against in the big white antarctic, but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

negotiable, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:03 (seventeen years ago)

u could still play tag w/it tho

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)

But you could make the same assumption with ostriches in the big yellow desert (or wherever they live), and in that case you'd be right!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:08 (seventeen years ago)

aw no-one said 'where babies come from'

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:14 (seventeen years ago)

I've had a lot of experiences in my adult life with mispronouncing words I understood as part of written text, but hadn't heard aurally in the context of conversation etc. For example, I was well into my twenties before I knew the word "vehement" wasn't pronounced veh-hee-ment. I wish others would politely correct you when you do that instead of letting you blindly sound like an idiot.

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a bit like that, but now I'm in the habit of saying works incorrectly, I can't get out of it. Canal is not pronounced can-el, but there's fuck all I can do about it now.

NotEnough, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:39 (seventeen years ago)

^ This happens to me all the time too - so much so that I actually now find it quite amusing when I realise, midway through a sentence, that a word I've never heard before is looming at the end. I suppose that people who talk a lot, rather than reading, must find the same with spelling. It only annoys me when some moron uses it as an opportunity to score cheap points (sadly fairly often)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

I was going to start a thread like this, but it was going to be more about 'life lessons' that took you forever to learn, rather than trivia.

Anyway it's taken me this long to fully realize how unreliable first impressions can be when it comes to people.

invisible jet (wanko ergo sum), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:42 (seventeen years ago)

but why would anyone then automatically think okay here's a bird i could play tag with

haha

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

TAL have an episode on this in the "best of" section on their wesite. people who thought unicorns were real, etc., lots of awkward silences at cocktail parties: good stuff.

rent, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

i like to tag birds. (runs)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

There's a penguin here and he wants to say "you didn't touch me ner ner ner"

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

I thought penguins went "weh weh weh"

╓abies, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:14 (seventeen years ago)

I'm still in touch with several grown adults who genuinely believe there's 'something' to supernatural claims about ouija boards, despite its fairly obvious origins in parlour games / illusions which utilised the (admittedly fucking spooky) ideomotor effect.

― Huey in Bristol (Huey in Melbourne), Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you couldnt get me in the same room as a ouija board

a country packed with ponies (sunny successor), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

I was about 35 when I figured out Open Sesame = Open Says Me.

Rotgutt, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:44 (seventeen years ago)

i used to think HAZCHEM was a foreign word for danger like Achtung

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

I just figured out, like 2 days ago, that the lyrics are "highway to the danger zone"

(until then, thought they were "I went to to the danger zone")

homosexual II, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

re: the Hawaii/TG group, there's quite the WaPo article out now

mh, Monday, 22 June 2026 18:46 (four days ago)

i'm being told that residents of the cape verde islands pronounce it 'cape vurd'

which means american soccer commentator jp dellacamera (who sucks even apart from not knowing how to pronounce the name of the team he's watching) got it wrong for 90+ minutes last night

mookieproof, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 00:58 (three days ago)

not only that it's actually officially called "Cabo Verde". according to Brittanica "In October 2013 the Cabo Verde government requested that the Portuguese version of the country’s name, Cabo Verde, be used when the country’s name was rendered in other languages."

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 08:50 (three days ago)

I knew that its official name was Cabo Verde, so mookieproof's post confused me. (Surely "verde" is not pronounced "vurd" in Portuguese?) But most of the population speaks a creole language that apparently does pronounce it more like "vurd." (Seeing a lot of contradictory info about this, though.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 12:00 (three days ago)

vurd is closest to french pronunciation imo.
https://www.polgeonow.com/2014/01/icymi-cape-verdes-name-change.html?m=1 hmm

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:14 (three days ago)

it says trad english name sounds like “cape verd,” and i’m like, not where i am, it’s cape VEHRday all round ime.

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:17 (three days ago)

Apparently pronounced VAIRD in (European) Portuguese.

stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:18 (three days ago)

European Portuguese (much like English) tends to replace unstressed word-final vowels with schwas, so yeah verde sounds like "verd". Interestingly, Brazilian Portuguese doesn't do this, there it sounds like "ver-jee". Don't know about the dialect spoken in Cabo Verde.

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:35 (three days ago)

I imagine it's close to European Portuguese.

stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:38 (three days ago)

looks like most residents' primary language is Cape Verdean Creole so that's gonna be a factor

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:55 (three days ago)

This obviously has implications for those of us liable to order a vinho verde, but I looked in this and as far as I can tell all answers are correct. https://forvo.com/word/vinho_verde/

Tim, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:56 (three days ago)

and said creole has nine distinct dialects so they probably don't even pronounce it the same way amongst themselves

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 15:57 (three days ago)

That the thing at the back of Horace out of Hungry Horace and Horace Goes Skiing is meant to be a ponytail not an arm.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 18:13 (three days ago)

:O

I think I did learn that a few years ago and then forgot again because of course it's his arm.

stick your cheffing job (ledge), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 20:18 (three days ago)

so he has a ponytail and no arms? how does he put his hair in a ponytail with no arms?

Bog Dork (koogs), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 20:22 (three days ago)

You missed the prequel, Horace and His Valet.

Alba, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 20:25 (three days ago)

Cape Vurd sounds like the 110% Anglicized version. (Also see: New Madrid, Missouri; El Dorado, Arkansas; Amarillo, Texas...)

pplains, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 21:05 (three days ago)

Looking at a few videos online, it looks like Cape Verdeans pronounce it something like "kep verd"

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 21:19 (three days ago)

I saw Cisco Pike last week and there's an amusing krishnas cameo outside the Troubadour in one of the scenes

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 21:23 (three days ago)

(Also see: New Madrid, Missouri; El Dorado, Arkansas; Amarillo, Texas...)

when my mom moved to western pennsylvania she was laughed at for trying to pronounce versailles, pa the french way

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 00:44 (two days ago)

Versailles, Mo. would have too.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 00:46 (two days ago)

omg they say versayles, shouldn't be surprised after hearing Notre Dame pronounced noter daym

pax ramona (Matt #2), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 01:06 (two days ago)

Was just watching an episode of Justified where there was some discussion of Versayles, Kentucky.

wipes chooser (unperson), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 02:22 (two days ago)

i’ve always liked buena vista co going as BYOOna VISSta aka “byoonie.” after 35 yrs if i hear elsewise, i’m just like, ay, GIT

and nearby Salida going sal-EYE-da

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 03:11 (two days ago)

On my hike, I kept unintentionally calling the vistas VEE-stas which while technically correct, made me feel like Peggy Hill.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 03:18 (two days ago)

Coalinga, California’s name is derived from it being Coaling Station A on the railroad line. I thought it was another pseudo-spanish thing for some reason

mh, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 03:23 (two days ago)

How do folks there pronounce it?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 03:54 (two days ago)

Recently deceased pioneer of microhistory carlo ginzburg is the son of Natalia! Somehow never knew that

Karmic posing as I always do 🧘 (wins), Wednesday, 24 June 2026 18:48 (two days ago)

the residents of Martinez, Georgia, call it MAR-tin-ez

Brad C., Wednesday, 24 June 2026 18:53 (two days ago)

lol I lived there for two years and was very embarrassed by that

rob, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 19:07 (two days ago)

Alan Vega was born in the 1930s

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 25 June 2026 00:09 (yesterday)

That is surprising. (Would've been 88 yesterday). And Martin Rev is almost 10 years younger, I never figured that.

Josefa, Thursday, 25 June 2026 02:27 (yesterday)

Ah shit I missed the Cabo Verde chat.

The creole is indeed closer to European Portuguese than Brazilian Portuguese, so "vurd" it is. Cabo Verde is reasonably close to the Azores, where I grew up, lots of migration. It also likes to see itself as a bridge between Europe and Africa, it even has some standing accords with the EU.

The impulse to swallow vowels at the end of the word is even stronger in S Miguel than in the rest of Portugal, so when I first started speaking it as a kid I would just sort of let words trail off into mumbling and silence, worked ok but I had to readjust once I got to the mainland.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 25 June 2026 07:50 (yesterday)

The Krishnas are a serious problem in Hawaii aiui? Oahu is a small island, and I heard from one woman that there's a sense that the cult preys on people there who are then separated from their families and local society. She said the mayor of Oahu had "kicked them out" but I don't see evidence of that now online from a quick search. See also the current breaking news w/r/t Tulsi Gabbard.

This unlocked a whole new subtext to one of my favourite video games, thanks for the info!

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 25 June 2026 07:52 (yesterday)

European Portuguese (much like English) tends to replace unstressed word-final vowels with schwas, so yeah verde sounds like "verd". Interestingly, Brazilian Portuguese doesn't do this, there it sounds like "ver-jee". Don't know about the dialect spoken in Cabo Verde.

― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 June 2026 16:35 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah thanks for finally explaining that because I've been so confused about the pronuncation. British people (including me) generally pronounce it "CAP-ay VERD-ay" but someone who seemed to know a lot about the Lusophone parts of the world pronounced it "Cap-uh Verj-uh" and that discombobulated me somewhat

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Thursday, 25 June 2026 07:56 (yesterday)

Have you not being watching the World Cup? Literally everyone in the British media pronounces it Cape VERD-ay.

stanes on the knees and blood on the jumber (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2026 07:59 (yesterday)

Reminds me of my first trip to Lisbon. I tried to explain to the taxi driver I was staying at "ROO-ah da SANT-o EHS-TEH-VOW" (R. de Santo Estêvão), innocently thinking it must be pronounced roughly as it's spelled and with similar inflections to Spanish. He looked at me blankly until I showed him the address written-down - "Ah! Rua De Santo SHTEH-VOH". It was at that moment I realised European Portuguese isn't pronounced anything like it's spelled and spent the rest of the trip fascinated by how many letters disappear into the tongue

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Thursday, 25 June 2026 08:02 (yesterday)

xp no I don't watch the World Cup

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Thursday, 25 June 2026 08:02 (yesterday)

but you're right - I Think I've got so used to moving the pronunciation around in my head it's become "capay verday" but, yes "cayp verday" is more common

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Thursday, 25 June 2026 08:05 (yesterday)

It was at that moment I realised European Portuguese isn't pronounced anything like it's spelled and spent the rest of the trip fascinated by how many letters disappear into the tongue

Now imagine my surprise to learn the pronunciation of Leicester Square, Ladbrokes, Chiswick...

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 25 June 2026 08:31 (yesterday)

This unlocked a whole new subtext to one of my favourite video games, thanks for the info!

Lol same

99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2026 09:21 (yesterday)

I have to admit that for a long time I pronounced Mojave as Moh-Jave. I would like to thank Our Lord Jesus Christ that I never visited the Mojave when I was younger. The people would probably have shot me in the head! And then I would have been dug up by a robot and nursed back to health by a friendly doctor. Then I would have been killed by flying tarantulas.

I was aware that there was a thing called "the Mow-Have-Ay" but I assumed it was something else. Now I just remember the line from Fallout: New Vegas. "Mojave, mo' problems". I once fed Victoria to the White Glove Society. Her story has an unhappy ending no matter which options you choose, so I felt that it was at least good that she got to wear a nice dress, if only briefly.

I am smart enough to know that Texas is pronounced "Teck-Sar-Say".

Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 25 June 2026 18:10 (yesterday)

wait how is Ladbrokes pronounced

mookieproof, Friday, 26 June 2026 02:19 (twelve hours ago)

For the longest time I thought Yosemite rhymed with hose bite

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 26 June 2026 03:49 (ten hours ago)

xp "brooks" rather than "brokes"

Here is the mentioned donkey, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 June 2026 06:36 (seven hours ago)

Which is very sad as its function is indeed to get lads broke.

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 26 June 2026 08:12 (six hours ago)

see that's how they get ya

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Friday, 26 June 2026 08:15 (six hours ago)

Arkansas was the one that got me for the longest time. Made sense in my head that you had Kansas and Arkansas, like the Arctic and the Antarctic.

rameau in the main room (dog latin), Friday, 26 June 2026 08:17 (six hours ago)

I always want Vegemite to be pronounced va-JEM-i-tee based on the Yosemite model

xp Arkansas as in Arkansas River is pronounced two different ways, apparently depending on which US state it's running through

Josefa, Friday, 26 June 2026 12:50 (one hour ago)

Ladbrokes is pronounced fuck off you pernicious leeches.

Ed, Friday, 26 June 2026 13:40 (forty-seven minutes ago)


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