Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

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Classic; but I never found the characters funny. The situations, yes, Kramer, no.

Kramer is awful

WHAT. Horseshit....Kramer and George top two characters on the show. Come on, Kramer modeling for Calvin Klein "his buttocks are sublime".

I have to say the same for the rest of the cast, tho. I always thought Jerry was rude, pretentious and annoying; George is one-dimensionally pathetic... Elaine wasn't so bad. Like I said, the situations and ordeals they were given were ingenious but I was never satisfied with the way they handled them nor and never found their dialog particularly funny.

I just loved the "Oh yeah! That happens/I think that/all the time" (like the age old: does she have one dress, or dozens of the same dress question)situations, and what mostly motivated me to watch another episode if my grammar isn't totally off by this far in the sentence.

the fuck kinda revive is this

i think the show should have been called Costanza...because i always found jerry the most useless of all the characters.

The Opposite = best episode of an American sitcom possibly *ever*?

This behind the scenes doc kicked off a big Seinfeld revival for me a year or so back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtu2WBO48U

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I always thought Jerry was rude, pretentious and annoying; George is one-dimensionally pathetic

isn't this the point of the characters (and the show!) rather than a flaw?

and not sure what multi-dimensionally pathetic would even entail!

yeah "The Opposite" is one of the best things ever

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even multiverse george is pathetic?

i kind of want to see a version of hamlet where wayne knight plays everyone.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

Favorite lines from Seinfeld?

They were showing the puffy shirt episode in syndication last night, which I believe was my original apotheosis moment with Seinfeld (not only the soft talker and the shirt, but George's hand modeling career).

This is probably one of the funniest shows ever created.

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george is the best character, btw. never understood why this wasn't bigger in the uk.

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― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:23 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

I read that a lot... it isn't distributed outside of Denver & Chicago, is it?

IMO the hidden strength of the show for me is the minor characters. Newman especially, but also George's parents, Puddy, Uncle Leo, Peterman, Susan...all great supporting roles. The show was great no matter who was on the screen. Even most of the extras/one-episode characters were great.

the paper version of the onion is still around in madison and milwaukee, not sure where else (it's all online obv.)

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 2:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This. I only got into watching it after I saw the first season of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

^coming from the aforementioned GENERATION X (*arms cross*) most dudes I know were watching this in middle-school, under influence of their parents. I guess it's also the result of going being friends with a lot of Jewish kids as well.

yeah I'm gen x too I guess, I just didn't have TV growing up

George's parents, his dad especially, make me lose my shit every time they are on screen.

spanish teacher of mine in high-school used to call me "senor puddy" b/c apparently i'm a doppleganger for the dude - husky, brawny, moronic type. i didn't really realize how insulting it actually kinda was til i started watching the series; but the name-calling was kinda mutual amongst everyone in the class.

I got into the show in 8th grade, during its second (?) season. I was a fairly indiscriminate fan of sitcoms at the time, but Seinfeld's particular brand of humor did speak to me.

I can't see, or really appreciate, this objectively still because it was so omnipresent and has always been on syndication since it left the air. So it's like a 90s song that you can't judge because you don't have fresh ears for it.

Don't understand? ^ I feel the issues they pose in each and every episode are kinda those things that are going to be forever relevant to anything post-90's.

big show for me while it was on, remember watching the final episode with friends the night I was leaving college for the summer after my freshman year and flying to visit my family in Hong Kong

No, I understand it and enjoy it, but it's that I a lot of episodes when I was younger -- maybe it's just me personally. I guess it'd be like if you were born in the 70s, had heard the Beatles since you were born, and there comes a certain point where you became spoiled and almost dismiss their work in favor of other pop that isn't as familiar, but then later you can hear it again.

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I had seen glimpses of, say, the Soup Nazi episode or the "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" episode, but I was still pretty new to the show when I bought the Seinfeld complete DVD set a couple months ago. It's now my favorite show of all time. I am absolutely obsessed. Even the not-so-great ones like "The Blood" and "The Dog" still have their moments. I also give this show an enormous amount of credit for quitting when it was time to quit, rather than sticking around forever and tarnishing their legacy and turning into The Simpsons.

Why did everyone hate the final episode? Surely the fans had a better reason to moan than "Oh I didn't want to see our heroes get thrown into the slammer!" Whatever. I roffled. "Now! It is Babu's turn to mock! They're very very bad people!" (plus the finger thing) Classic!

Interesting (but not all that suprising, really) to read that Seinfeld was a flop in the UK.

No, I understand it and enjoy it

Oops, sorry, my short-script way of writing tends to confuse people. I meant *I* don't understand - I wasn't questioning whether you understood the series or whatever. But I can kinda see what you're talking about now.

My wife and I gave up sugar/caffeine/meat/dairy/booze for a week and it's made her super focused and smart and turned me into a complete idiot - the past few days have been a series of jokes about her learning to speak Portuguese and me clapping happily about shiny spinning things, ala George and Elaine when they both gave up sex.

I totally loved this show, then watched way too much of it when it was constantly on reruns and we only had antenna TV and I got so sick of it. But it's been long enough that I actually want to watch it again.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 2:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was born in '81, and enjoyed it from about the age of 13/14 when they started showing it on bbc 2 in the evenings. it did take me a while to get into it though, didn't really get it at first. although NOBODY else in my entire school as far as i know watched the show. either never seen it, or just didn't get the humour.

It wasn't really a flop in the UK. On terrestrial TV it was only really aired late at night (around 11pm) on BBC2 midweek, and never really promoted.

It got a cult following, and it became a cliche to moan about how shabbily the BBC treated it. I once heard that it was because Alan Yentob, then the controller of BBC2, just didn't like it.

If it had had a 9 or 10pm slot on Fridays on Channel 4, which was the classic slot for US sitcoms, I suspect it would have been a hit.

i'm not sure. even most people i know who like "curb" have never really gotten into it. i can only think of one other person i know irl who's a fan.

Yeah only time I saw it,being a young child at the time,was when I had the flu and so was allowed to have telly on that late. I remember finding it funny but not getting a lot of it,the sponges for instance.

Yeah I know hardly anyone who watches it yet know plenty who watch curb.

i'm always flabbergasted by US sitcom literacy when UK sitcom literacy in America usually stops at "Are You Being Served"

Most of my friends in Glasgow were fans. Odd.

Xp. Not really that surprising surely? Majority of films at the cinema are american and tv,and sitcoms most of all,is done a lot better in america.

"Americans make the BEST shit sandwiches!"

if that metallica song, "sad but true", was a gif, I'd post it right here.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:03 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

are you kidding i was watching the shit out of seinfeld when i was 11... it was pretty much the comedic landmark of my early-mid teens

I wouldn't say British sitcoms are widely popular in the US but there's definitely a strong cult audience. I discovered Father Ted through my local video store when I lived in Richmond, Va., you can find the ILX thread where lots of American posters were sure the U.S. "Office" wouldn't live up to the UK "Office," etc.