this has never happened :(
― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Carl Hiaasen writes interestingly about j'lists. I think in the post-Watergate Era, journalist got really full of themselves, thought they were the mob ("hey look, we took down the president, nobody fucks with us") and wanked themselves into Geraldo.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Journalism is dying but diaryism is on the rise.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
That doesn't necessarily mean a movie will be made. When Janet Cooke was busted for inventing a story and had to give back her Pulitzer, there was talk of a movie, but it was never filmed.
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
There was a time when journalists didn't pretend to be pure, because (frankly) the thought hadn't yet occurred to them. With the rise of the modern public relations agent in the 1920s and fascism in the 1930s journalists eventually learned modern propaganda techniques. It was only a matter of time before they applied the same techniques to improve their own image from that of sleazy purveyors of scandal to guardians of the public's sacred "right to know".
It worked, didn't it?
― Aimless, Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
all i'm saying is we need a connie chung biopic real fucking soon. for the kids.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
i've got an idea for a connie chung title but it would rightly get me booted from ilm.
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
That's what my friend Lukas does. He hates it.
― hstencil, Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 May 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 May 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Okay Tracer, I am going to drive into Baltimore this weekend and beat up heroin dealers with my shining teeth, blazing feet, and lightning wit. You have to come up with a crazy name for me, though.
I'm betting 4-1 that I have actually been impervious to bullets all along. Who's in?
― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
-- Aaron W (aaro...), May 29th, 2003.
the corruption and cronyism rampant at 95% of alt-weeklies is depressing
-- James Blount (littlejohnnyjewe...), May 29th, 2003.
not nearly as depressing as the awful writing though
Couldn't agree more, James.
ooh, ooh, count me in on all of this too. and let's not forget how fucking long it takes them to mail cheques. the assholes.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 May 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
But bitching about them feels counter-productive. People who are frustrated should get together and do their own newspaper.
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 29 May 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Meanwhile The WaPo pulled back at the last minute from allowing its publishers and newsroom to mingle with lobbysits.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2009 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link
our wonderful local rag, aka that nasty bunch of hypocrites: http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/news/Town-website-publisher-s-porn-business/article-1883453-detail/article.html
― tomofthenest, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/B5ez7.jpg
― gr8080, Friday, 6 May 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216382_1923770406620_1012896840_32277949_7741349_n.jpg
― offee is for losers only, do you not c? (Abbbottt), Friday, 6 May 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
So the Cape Cod newspaper has its very own Stephen Glass:
There is an implied contract between a newspaper and its readers. The paper prints the truth. Readers believe that it's true.It's not always so simple, of course. There are nuances in how a story is presented, what words are used to describe the action. Papers have personalities, and no two are exactly alike, but at the end of the day, facts are facts. And a good newspaper holds nothing more sacred than its role to tell the truth. Always. As fully and as fairly as possible.This is our guiding principle, so it is with heavy heart that we tell you the Cape Cod Times has broken that trust. An internal review has found that one of our reporters wrote dozens of stories that included one or more sources who do not exist.The reporter was Karen Jeffrey, 59, a writer for the Cape Cod Times since 1981. In an audit of her work, Times editors have been unable to find 69 people in 34 stories since 1998, when we began archiving stories electronically.On Tuesday, Jeffrey admitted to fabricating people in some of these articles and giving some others false names. She no longer works for the Cape Cod Times.We were able to verify sourcing in many stories written by Jeffrey, mostly police and court news, political stories, and recently a series on returning war veterans. The stories with suspect sourcing were typically lighter fare – a story on young voters, a story on getting ready for a hurricane, a story on the Red Sox home opener – where some or all of the people quoted cannot be located.In 2011, for example, a story on the Fourth of July parade in Cotuit featured Johnson Coggins, 88, “the patriarch of the family” and a longtime Cotuit summer resident. No one by that name can be found using public-records searches and there is no Coggins in the town of Barnstable's assessor's database. We were unable to locate five other people featured in that story.In a 2006 story on the Falmouth Road Race, we were unable to find five individuals, including Daniel Fortes of San Diego, a marathon runner who, Jeffrey wrote, has run the Boston Marathon and the Falmouth race but was sidelined with an injury that year. Fortes could not be found using public records and no one with that name had competed in the Falmouth race or the Boston Marathon for the five years leading up to the story, according to the races' websites.Times editors reviewed Jeffrey's stories using a variety of search techniques, including a public-records database tool called Accurint, searches of voter rolls and town assessor's records, a review of Facebook profiles and attempted phone calls in an effort to find the sources.
It's not always so simple, of course. There are nuances in how a story is presented, what words are used to describe the action. Papers have personalities, and no two are exactly alike, but at the end of the day, facts are facts. And a good newspaper holds nothing more sacred than its role to tell the truth. Always. As fully and as fairly as possible.
This is our guiding principle, so it is with heavy heart that we tell you the Cape Cod Times has broken that trust. An internal review has found that one of our reporters wrote dozens of stories that included one or more sources who do not exist.
The reporter was Karen Jeffrey, 59, a writer for the Cape Cod Times since 1981. In an audit of her work, Times editors have been unable to find 69 people in 34 stories since 1998, when we began archiving stories electronically.
On Tuesday, Jeffrey admitted to fabricating people in some of these articles and giving some others false names. She no longer works for the Cape Cod Times.
We were able to verify sourcing in many stories written by Jeffrey, mostly police and court news, political stories, and recently a series on returning war veterans. The stories with suspect sourcing were typically lighter fare – a story on young voters, a story on getting ready for a hurricane, a story on the Red Sox home opener – where some or all of the people quoted cannot be located.
In 2011, for example, a story on the Fourth of July parade in Cotuit featured Johnson Coggins, 88, “the patriarch of the family” and a longtime Cotuit summer resident. No one by that name can be found using public-records searches and there is no Coggins in the town of Barnstable's assessor's database. We were unable to locate five other people featured in that story.
In a 2006 story on the Falmouth Road Race, we were unable to find five individuals, including Daniel Fortes of San Diego, a marathon runner who, Jeffrey wrote, has run the Boston Marathon and the Falmouth race but was sidelined with an injury that year. Fortes could not be found using public records and no one with that name had competed in the Falmouth race or the Boston Marathon for the five years leading up to the story, according to the races' websites.
Times editors reviewed Jeffrey's stories using a variety of search techniques, including a public-records database tool called Accurint, searches of voter rolls and town assessor's records, a review of Facebook profiles and attempted phone calls in an effort to find the sources.
― super perv powder (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
1 Herald Plaza is gone.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 March 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/nyt_hasnt_been_hit_that_hard.php
― j., Saturday, 8 February 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link
http://crookedtimber.org/2014/03/27/journalism-and-astroturfing/
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-note-on-sponsors
― j., Monday, 31 March 2014 14:27 (ten years ago) link
"You probably think of us as big innovators on the editorial side."
― Little Nicky Pizza loved that rascal Rust (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Ha.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 31 March 2014 17:50 (ten years ago) link
hasan generally on pointhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNirsV1rLA
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
Once the hedge funds have snarfed up your local paper, it becomes much more difficult to follow his advice to support it, because you're getting fleeced, just like all the other 'assets' the paper owns. Figuring out how to convert them to employee-owned and run co-ops seems like a pipedream, but maybe that's the best avenue for keeping them viable.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link
something something cryptocurrency something something
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
Aimless otm. I worked in newspapering from approximately 1985 to 1999. My grandfather was the owner/editor/publisher of a small-town paper. My grandmother, mother, and my two sisters were all print-era creatures. I have ink in my veins. If I'm not a stan for print journalism, no one is. And yet...
The project of shlurping local papers into a homogenous corporate blob was already well underway in 1982 (having essentially started with the establishment of USA Today/Gannet/Tegna).
Nowadays, the remaining "local" papers are as local as those Clear Channel-style radio stations that have identical programming, except for the weather and traffic and one or two "this one goes out to Janie in Incestville" requests that help them "localize" what is otherwise centralized. In most cities it is not doing anything different from the local Fox affiliate.
On a personal note: You can not imagine how hard it was for me to cancel print delivery of the Washington Post, after 42 years of having the day begin with its arrival on the doorstep. I don't know what to do about this, but it is a minor heartbreak.
― Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
i just started getting the ny times international edition delivered! it's magic, i love it. i got a very good introductory price and it saves me having to wait in a queue for the print edition on the weekends just so i can do the crossword.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link
I suspect your subscription also entitles you to access the online crossword?
Mine does.
― Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
i'd rather not do it at all if i couldn't use a pen. faintly ghosting in a guess with a ballpoint is one of my key techniques.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
it also takes my eyes away from a screen for a few goddamn minutes.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/pqrQItG.png
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
Might throw some dollars at this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1478924964/the-brick-house-cooperative
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link
More info here: https://www.cjr.org/first_person/introducing-the-brick-house-the-wolf-proof-media-cooperative.php
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
so it’s civil without the crypto and with a few new faces
― maura, Thursday, 27 August 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link
Is it? I didn’t pay much attention to civil
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 27 August 2020 03:06 (four years ago) link
other people vouch for maria b and certainly i admire the effort but establishing a post-click *and* post-blockchain economy seems like a lot
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 August 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link
ah shit paywalled. it's the story of how Wirecard tried to discredit the FT, going to mad lengths to set up fake news operations with some (shitty) former intelligence people bribing market manipulators and ... hell, it's all insane Bourne-Ultimatum stuff
― stet, Friday, 4 September 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
lol rong thred
This fucking guy... (the replies are as choice as should be expected).
A, perhaps odd, piece of advice to fellow journalists. Reach out to your hate mailers.I just had a great, instructive, and professionally helpful phone call with a man who called me "a selfish partisan hack” in an email this morning.— Sam Stein (@samstein) September 11, 2020
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
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― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 12 September 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
I've noticed the NY Times going ahead and using quite charged language when talking about Trump in their hard news items. It feels unusual to me, and maybe even unprecedented in my time reading it. For instance, the blurb for today's article about Georgia re-certifying Biden's win says:
The announcement is the latest blow to President Trump’s attempts to subvert the election results in the state.
"Subvert"! Pretty sure heretofore that verb would have been "challenge". When talking about trumpoid fever-dreams of election rigging, they'll routinely refer to Trump's "baseless" claims.
I just don't think I've ever seen them do this before. It's like a kid with a new toy who can't stop playing with it. Look ma! I'm using my professional judgment! When I first moved to London in 2003, newspapers were so incredible to read because the news pages would routinely pass judgment on what they people they were quoting had to say, and it was so refreshing. It was like the paper recognised that it was a participant in events, rather than a supposedly passive bystander. That it could impart its own view on someone's trustworthiness, or truthfulness, or history. The New York Times appears to be at least very occasionally realising the same thing. It's like watching an ape become sentient. Unfortunately, like that child on Christmas day, I fear that once Trump passes from the stage of national politics the New York Times will get bored of its new toy and just go back to its old ways.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
I don't think there's any question that the NY Times has become a lot more overtly partisan in its reporting during the Trump years. It's been going on for at least a few years now. Maybe it's gotten worse. I don't find it refreshing. I guess they felt like they needed to go there to compete with the likes of Huffington Post, who would otherwise repackage their expensive reporting with a more partisan slant and capture their audience. I don't really need daily headlines like "Trump Once Again Demonstrates Lack of Scruples" when that kind of thing is all over my social media feed.
― o. nate, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
If a sitting president working to cripple the US (because a crippled country is easier to loot) isn't newsworthy, nothing is. I'm all in favor of calling Trump a crook and a liar in news stories as well as op-ed and analysis pieces.
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
I think it’s within the fundamental responsibility of journalists to call a claim “baseless” if, in their judgment, it is. They’re the people in a position to know (as opposed to, like, us). They’ve just interviewed the relevant experts on both sides of the story. And if an actual judge says that the President’s proxies are trying to undermine faith in an election, using a word like “subvert” is justified. On the other hand, NOT using those words would be granting Trump (or whoever) a legitimacy he hasn’t earned.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
I don't really need daily headlines like "Trump Once Again Demonstrates Lack of Scruples" when that kind of thing is all over my social media feed.
fetch my fainting couch!
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 7 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
I don't know, maybe Trump really is as relentlessly bad as the Times portrays him to be, but it's very hard to read that paper day after day and have any sense of why, you know, 72 million people might vote for him, other than they are all crazy, misinformed, racist or what have you. I guess there is a popular sideline in Times analysts trying to explain this great mystery, though no one seems to ever ask if maybe he's not as one-dimensionally evil as they portray him to be, and whether that might explain part of it. I feel like some other news sources have no trouble calling Trump on his bullshit yet somehow seem to present more of an appearance of evenhandedness or objectivity.
― o. nate, Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link
Weird genre of post you’re inventing here
― is right unfortunately (silby), Saturday, 12 December 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link
can you point to some articles in other press about various scruples that he has demonstrated?
― huge rant (sic), Saturday, 12 December 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link
I'm not saying other press sources are constantly writing about his strong moral fiber, just that they tend to treat him more like all of the other politicians they cover (not all of whom regularly cover themselves in glory where demonstration of scruples is concerned) and less like a uniquely corrupt and maleficent force. Anyway, there's no joy to be had these days trying to advocate for old-fashioned journalistic values of neutrality, separation of editorial pages from "hard news" pages etc. Perhaps those values were always a thin veneer of respectability that deserved to be worn away.
― o. nate, Monday, 21 December 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
Bob McChesney and John Nichols:
https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/the-local-journalism-initiative.php
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
https://www.esquireme.com/news/48076-how-the-uae-is-celebrating-todays-international-day-of-peace
...
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
Wow and yikes. I went to the homepage and it's all like that, just puff pieces sucking up to assorted Middle Eastern moguls and hotshots. Gross.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link
can't believe how far the most trusted name in news, Esquire Middle East, has fallen
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:34 (one year ago) link
I just looked it up, Esquire has a bunch of international editions. Not all of them owned by Hearst, some it looks like they just sold the rights to the name to an in-country publisher. But Esquire ME is an actual Hearst mag. So is Esquire Bulgaria, which I bet is a treat.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 November 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-weekend-essay/is-the-media-prepared-for-an-extinction-level-event?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_021024&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&utm_term=tny_daily_digest&bxid=5be9da642ddf9c72dc27c25d&cndid=29476922&hasha=f0ef51a738774f8c6d037c5c6beb7573&hashb=7cfed5b1cbcbc6a71fea3c2fc2bc754ee2661f52&hashc=fdd5c8d249d863be98861f55628588b242a4ca01384346986428715bbfdd44db&esrc=CDS_OP
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 February 2024 19:23 (nine months ago) link
Is the media prepared for utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_021024&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&utm_term=tny_daily_digest&bxid=5be9da642ddf9c72dc27c25d&cndid=29476922&hasha=f0ef51a738774f8c6d037c5c6beb7573&hashb=7cfed5b1cbcbc6a71fea3c2fc2bc754ee2661f52&hashc=fdd5c8d249d863be98861f55628588b242a4ca01384346986428715bbfdd44db&esrc=CDS_OP
― bae (sic), Saturday, 10 February 2024 19:37 (nine months ago) link
Never
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 February 2024 19:43 (nine months ago) link
I read that article (clean link) and my reaction was that it makes me wonder if journalists fundamentally misunderstand how the average person sees news. Why pay to learn something that will likely bum you out, and about which you can do nothing? Isn't life hard enough already? More and more, I feel like a medieval peasant. The rulers are gonna do what they're gonna do, and the people in charge of telling us about that are mostly cheering them on (in a "can't argue with success!" sort of way), so fuck "the news." I'd rather spend my money on music, books and movies, and if I'm "uninformed," so be it. I don't feel like I'm missing much.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 10 February 2024 20:31 (nine months ago) link
yeah
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 10 February 2024 20:45 (nine months ago) link
Urgh, my wife and I are j-school types. We don't really have a lot of backup plans and it's a bit late to generate a backup plan now.
Recently she looked into going to law school at age 46. That seems pretty far-fetched, but it's not like I have a better idea.
We are unlikely to manage mortgage/college/retirement/debt etc. whilst working at e.g. McDonald's. (No disrespect to those who do, just saying it would be a tough bunch of changes.)
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 February 2024 21:12 (nine months ago) link
if you're considering career moves, as a high school teacher i mean this 100% sincerely, please consider teaching! media literacy is absolutely kicking our collective asses and we don't have enough people who understand it to teach kids about it.
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, 10 February 2024 21:34 (nine months ago) link
The essay's right about the forces at work, but what's amazing to me — and The Messenger is obviously the most ridiculous example of this — is how many people with lots of money at big media companies have just totally failed to understand the realities. Advertising is gone as a primary revenue stream for news/media companies. But these guys still think they're gonna get rich selling ads.
Subscription and/or nonprofit models are the obvious ways to go. They both have their challenges, but there are a lot of people doing good work with both of them right now. Will just have to see how well they can sustain themselves. I'm less pessimistic about journalism than I was five years ago, because I think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. But for sure it's unstable, and I'm happy not to be working for legacy media companies still trying to retrofit their old models.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 11 February 2024 05:25 (nine months ago) link
More and more, I feel like a medieval peasant. The rulers are gonna do what they're gonna do, and the people in charge of telling us about that are mostly cheering them on (in a "can't argue with success!" sort of way), so fuck "the news." I'd rather spend my money on music, books and movies, and if I'm "uninformed," so be it. I don't feel like I'm missing much.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 10 February 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Most people in the medieval era couldn't read or write. Which is what I get from your posts
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 February 2024 14:00 (nine months ago) link
The essay's right about the forces at work, but what's amazing to me — and The Messenger is obviously the most ridiculous example of this — is how many people with lots of money at big media companies have just totally failed to understand the realities. Advertising is gone as a primary revenue stream for news/media companies.
And when a much-ballyhooed site like The Messenger collapses the crash sounds louder -- it becomes another warning sign, another "there, you see? Media IS collapsing!"
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 February 2024 14:31 (nine months ago) link
xp I suspect that primary and secondary school teaching is going to mostly be a volunteer force in 20 years and work on an equivalent of the original Sunday School system in 30.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 11 February 2024 15:05 (nine months ago) link
please consider teaching! media literacy is absolutely kicking our collective asses and we don't have enough people who understand it to teach kids about it
Teaching media literacy would have to be a stealth operation, because with the enshrinement of standard tests driving the entire curriculum these days there's not much space for anything else in a school day.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 February 2024 19:54 (nine months ago) link
I disagree. It’s pretty easy to align lessons on media literacy with the common core. You are assessing their ability to make inferences and comprehend nonfiction texts.
― treeship., Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:02 (nine months ago) link
treesh, I know you're a smart and experienced enough teacher to control your own lessons in depth and make your teaching materials work for you rather than the other way around, but that is a high level and a difficult attainment. For a less experienced or committed teacher, the fact that most contemporary media are not consumed as nonfiction texts places a large constraint on their effectively teaching media literacy. Even more so, if the classroom materials are imposed rather than discretionary.
Anyway, I acknowledge your greater expertise on this, so if you think my perspective is insufficiently grounded, I'll accept your conclusions.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 11 February 2024 20:20 (nine months ago) link
Nice to see that Chicago's longtime alt-weekly is now an actual weekly again:https://chicagoreader.com/columns-opinion/staff-notes/weekly-newspaper/
― jaymc, Saturday, 4 May 2024 15:19 (six months ago) link
Good editorial.
― bae (sic), Saturday, 4 May 2024 18:39 (six months ago) link
yeah. stirring stuff!
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 4 May 2024 20:55 (six months ago) link