I also have a horror of people who write prolifically in all caps.
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)
This is true.
But, this is a topic that should be dealt with routinely and harshly... the only way we can correct the language and suppress it's organic growth is by exposing and banning every new usage as it occurs... Isn't that what the French do?
― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)
Also: 'fridge,' girls who refer to each other as 'girl,' proactive...i'll be back when i think of more....
― roger adultery, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Roderick the Visigoth. (Jake Proudlock), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 03:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Melly E (Melly E), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Monday, 29 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 29 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 29 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)
'poetic justice'. Used by the lazy to describe all 'justice' the speaker approves of, instead of a particular type. The adjective is rendered meaningless.
Agree re 'bird' for woman/girl, and lament its threatened return. Stinks of 'I'm being un-PC, where's my medal?'. Also the C-person uses it, which kinda ends the argument.
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 29 December 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― barbara wintergreen, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― ermes marana, Tuesday, 30 December 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― gear (gear), Thursday, 18 August 2005 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Wait, huh? Fridge is the thing you put food in, whats wrong with it?
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm picturing him saying things such as "Would you like me to remove another beverage from the refrigerator for you, whilst we watch some association football?"
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Win A Lie-Down, Mrs. Davies (kate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― jimmy glass (electricsound), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― naus (Robert T), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)
As used to describe a footballer running into a streak of good form
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― stelf)xxx, Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)
When used in phrases like "a raft of policies" or "a raft of new measures" - why?!?!??!!?
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)
Or a colon.
COINKY-DINK, "guestimate," and any time someone ends an interrogative sentence with "at," as in "Where's my keys at?" or "Where's your head at?"
― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)
"hating on"
― gem (trisk), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)
"Action" used as a verb. (Especially with regards to some annoying little thing I had already been doing.) "Can you please action this?" Actually, no I can't. Action is a noun. If you would like me to DO it, then just ask. Argh.
Especially when coming from the same irritating marketing bods who last week asked me to "manage the relationship" with one of our suppliers. Fuck. Right. Off.
― Win A Lie-Down, Mrs. Davies (kate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― gem (trisk), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)
A term of address directed at Turkish shopkeepers by 13 year old boys and directed by Turkish shopkeepers at everyone else. The most annoying ever.
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)
DON'T MADAM ME, YOU LITTLE...!!! OK, according to Watching The English, this means that they have socio-status assessed me as middle class or higher. But it irritates me because it makes me feel old.
― Win A Lie-Down, Mrs. Davies (kate), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Diddyismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)
'Whilst'
― estela (estela), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― N_RQ, Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)
the phrase-final use of do used in (some) British dialects is a pro-verb that refers to an already-introduced verb:
Have you unpacked your things yet? -> I have done (ref. unpacked)
It's not a use-it or not-use-it distinction though, as variants of it are found in different contexts in most English dialects:
Have you tried these petit fours? -> No. -> Please do!
or
You should order the petit fours for dessert! -> That's what I was gonna do!
Go to bed early since we have to wake up at 6am tomorrow. -> I will do so.
and of course
I'm going to jump off this bridge! -> Don't!
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 16:01 (four days ago)
i am so satisfied and informed re my comment by all. thanky.
― viking voyages were all inclusive: leg irons, murdered children (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 16:14 (four days ago)
They do, though, don't they, though?
― kinder, Wednesday, 16 September 2026 16:45 (four days ago)
I've been having fun this afternoon thinking of lexical verbs where you can in fact still negate them without employing "do":
fear notworry notbe not afraid
all imperatives!
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 21:14 (four days ago)
Does “mustn’t” fit this category? I’m pretty hazy on grammar.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 21:16 (four days ago)
I was about to add “I suppose not,” but …
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 21:18 (four days ago)
"must" is a modal verb so not can attach directly to it, "suppose" is interesting though, as "I don't suppose" and "I suppose not" don't feel like they have quite the same meaning!
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 16 September 2026 23:26 (four days ago)
Be Not Afraid is one of the only religious songs I remember from my parochial education
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2026 02:47 (three days ago)
That may not be the title of the song, I’m afraid
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 September 2026 02:48 (three days ago)
ask not
― mick signals, Thursday, 17 September 2026 03:25 (three days ago)
xp I think it is the title. First line of the chorus at any rate.
― jaymc, Thursday, 17 September 2026 03:35 (three days ago)
xxxxp "warshed" also big in Michigan
― henry s, Thursday, 17 September 2026 15:09 (three days ago)
interesting, i always think of warsh as more of s central midwest not appalachian adjacent or eastern midwest
― viking voyages were all inclusive: leg irons, murdered children (Hunt3r), Thursday, 17 September 2026 15:24 (three days ago)
and def not mich ftm
My aunt who grew up in Ohio and Illinois says warsh, but oddly my mom who grew up in the same house does not. I attribute this to my aunt being three years older, which means she was in Ohio for three more formative years before they moved to the Chicago suburbs while my mom was still fairly young.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 17 September 2026 15:29 (three days ago)
pellow, melk
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 September 2026 16:49 (three days ago)
Melky Pellow, lead singer of Wetttt.
That reminds me. There's a tonne of Wikipedia articles that begin with "(Bridge) is a steel truss bridge and was opened in 1972". Or alternatively "(Bridge) is a steel truss bridge, supported with cantilevers, and was opened in 1972".
It's the word "and" that annoys me. It really should be "that". Something is a something that was opened some time. Does it violate the rules of grammar? I have no idea, but it looks wrong.
I mean, you wouldn't say "Challenger is a Space Shuttle and famously exploded".
For example, the current opening line for The Swarm is "The Swarm is a 1978 American natural horror film directed and produced by Irwin Allen and based on Arthur Herzog's 1974 novel of the same name", which is fine. But imagine if it was "The Swarm is an American natural horror film directed and produced by Irwin Allen and was released in 1978". That would be bad and wrong.
The link to "natural horror" reminds me of the tagline for the classic, and ahead-of-its-time, eco-horror film Frogs and was released in 1972, which is "COLD GREEN SKIN against SOFT, WARM FLESH!". Now, between you and me, at the age of fifty I'm not as frisky as I used to be. But some mental images can at least remind me of what it was like to experience physical lust, and if that involves frogs, so be it.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:16 (three days ago)
i would say that about challenger
both aspects are true
the ability to communicate is perhaps the great wonder of meaning in the universe and 98% (ive counted) of the entries in this thread really do strike me as a study in pettiness against the joys of different paths to the same result
― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:40 (three days ago)
no i dont feel like behaving porportionately about this
― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:43 (three days ago)
i guess a good portion of this thread (and this point has been made before) is complaining about corny normie people cornilly appropriating outdated slang from subcultures they do not belong to
― brimstead, Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:44 (three days ago)
that second l in cornily will drag them out of the gutter- good work
― Wichita Referee's Assistant (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:46 (three days ago)
just doing my best to keep everybody activated
― brimstead, Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:46 (three days ago)
In short, I Love Everything once more fails miserably to live up to its name.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:48 (three days ago)
I helped organize a wedding last weekend where the bride was black, and the very normie suburban white woman who ran the facilities started saying stuff like "Girl, you do you!" and it was really awkward and cringe
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:51 (three days ago)
(and yes, I recognize that cringe is also cringe)
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 17 September 2026 17:53 (three days ago)
xxxp us great unwarshed denizens of Michigan only got "today the pond, tomorrow the world" as the Frogs tagline.
― henry s, Thursday, 17 September 2026 18:51 (three days ago)
and has about 900-1000 years of being used as a conditional conjunction (all Wiccans know "an' it harm none, do what ye will" although that is from the 1960s) so it being used as a subordinating conjunction isn't so odd
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 September 2026 21:38 (three days ago)
Is an (with no apostrophe, meaning "if") really derived from and? I thought they were different words.
― mick signals, Thursday, 17 September 2026 21:43 (three days ago)
it is indeed
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 September 2026 21:45 (three days ago)
(worth noting that Doreen Valiente was in fact trying to make the words sound ancient even though they weren't, but she did use "an" correctly)
― fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Thursday, 17 September 2026 21:48 (three days ago)