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Anyone done this with a Mac? Procedure with a PC is to drink coffee and swear a lot.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 6 December 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

open the case. inside you will find almost certainly find a hard drive with a regular SATA interface. either find a desktop PC or Mac to connect it to, or find/buy a USB caddy (check size of drive first, most of these will likely do: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=enclosure&x=0&y=0)

caek, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

sorry mean to link here: http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=92&name=External-Enclosures

caek, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago)

Prosoft Data Rescue. Had a drive once where the directory or whatever was so fucked that Disk Warrior wouldn't even mount it to be able to fix it. Data Rescue saw it, let me save all my files, then I wiped the drive clean, reformated, and I'm still using it. And all data was saved, but some of it was in weird places.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

s1ocki can you open a terminal and run "diskutil list" with the faulty drive attached and paste the output here?

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago)

/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *500.1 GB disk0
1: EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 499.8 GB disk0s2

so basically just my internal

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

appreesh the efforts btw

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

prosoft cant seem to see it arrrrgh

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago)

this is the weird one i have

http://thydzik.com/how-to-disassemble-a-seagate-freeagent-pro/

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago)

maybe this has something to do with it??

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=213059&NewLang=en

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

i am getting nowhere

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:55 (fourteen years ago)

Is the drive making any weird-arse noises?

I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago)

caek otm, buy another usb enclosure just to check if its the drive or the case

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

no it's not making any noises, it's very quiet

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

too quiet!!!

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

No clicking? No?

Swap enclosure otm btw. If the drive is that quiet it's probably not connected to anything.

I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

it must feel... so... alone

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

btw I just bought a 2Tb drive for backups as a result of this thread.

I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago)

ha.

thankfully, my important stuff is largely backed up via a time machine/dropbox double-whammers.

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago)

what is considered the most reliable HD brand these days?

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago)

I like eastern digital

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

i mean western eastern is prob some cheap Chinese knokoff

steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

hahah

i like oceangate and faxtor

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

In the past year I have bought two Seagates, five WDs and three Samsungs. The reason I bought three Samsungs is that every single one of them died prematurely because they are made by the cack-handed goons at Samsung.

I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

here's the thing

the drive lights up when i plug it into the computer, but it makes no sound

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:33 (fourteen years ago)

that may be bad news but try it in an enclosure or another machine first

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago)

it got no love from the ps3... i guess i'll invest in an enclosure. i'll need a new HD anyway so i guess i'll get another internal too so it wont be a total waste of cashish if it doesnt work.

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

good plansh

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

yeah if you just need massive storage that need not be particularly portable, an enclosure and a bunch of 3.5" OEM internal drives is a very good way to go.

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago)

what do we think of the caviar green line?

should i get a mega-enclosure?

fuck usb2.0 i'm going fw800 this time.

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

should i get this?

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54483&vpn=EZQE61302&manufacture=Ezquest

stick 2 1tb drives in it?

will 2tb drives work do you think?

and then do i use it for... time machine? or superduper backup? or just to store my photos/videos off my laptop?

i cant wait till someone figures out a way for me not to have to think about this stuff all the time

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

if you're looking to spend "mad bank" then a NAS enclosure with 4 drives and RAID is "mad upgradable" and good from a data security POV. that's going to be ~1000 units of currency.

what is a mega-enclosure?

fw800 ftw.

xp

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

by mega i mean a RAID

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

not an expert on this stuff, but that seems kind of expensive for what it is.

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

do you understand what different RAID levels mean?

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

i have to go and watch that shitty sofia coppolsh movie now, some other nerd will cover for me, i trust

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

i do not

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

s1ocki if you're gonna go that way i will strongly rep for synology products, specifically this -

http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS211j/index.php

which is wayyy more than just an enclosure - it'll let you log in remotely, FTP, serve web pages, DL torrents, etc

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

it's a way of life

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

if you set it up in RAID 1 you'll get data redundancy (everything is mirrored, so if one drive fails you can restore from the other one).. of course, caek would have you then back this up weekly to another external drive which you store at your mother's house or in an underground lead-lined bunker

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

i use mine to store all my music and to take my time machine backups (you can use it as a time machine target)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

here's my issue.

i want a good backup of my laptop HD for obv reasons

but i also deal wiht a lot of big media files - HD video, RAW photo etc, which i have redundantly scattered around various drives

so i need at least one backup hd for my laptop (i have one, running time machine)
as well as at least one external for media files
as well as ANOTHER to back up the media drive

so many hard drives
it's fucking annoying

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

well, caek would have me drawn and quartered for saying so, but i accomplish all that with a two-bay NAS

- create a backup volume on it (for time machine)
- create another volume called "music", another called "video", another called "photos", etc
- and... i don't back it up. i probably should. but since it's RAID 1, if one drive fails it's no biggie. get another drive of the same size, pop it in, and you're back to full redundancy in an hour or two

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

you can mount the volumes via AFP, SMB or NFS

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

i guess a two-bay nas with 2 2TB drives in it?

i don't think a mirrored 1TB drive would be enough for my data-hungry needs

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

Storage is so cheap atm. The 2Tb I bought yesterday cost $145, which is $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

*hangs, draws and quarters tracer*

caek, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

> $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$

and probably £145

koogs, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:24 (fourteen years ago)

£145 would get you a 1.2Mb floppy these days.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago)


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