maybe this has something to do with it??
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=213059&NewLang=en
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i am getting nowhere
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Is the drive making any weird-arse noises?
― I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
caek otm, buy another usb enclosure just to check if its the drive or the case
― steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
no it's not making any noises, it's very quiet
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
too quiet!!!
No clicking? No?
Swap enclosure otm btw. If the drive is that quiet it's probably not connected to anything.
― I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link
it must feel... so... alone
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:18 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I just bought a 2Tb drive for backups as a result of this thread.
― I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link
ha.
thankfully, my important stuff is largely backed up via a time machine/dropbox double-whammers.
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
what is considered the most reliable HD brand these days?
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I like eastern digital
― steendriver DUMB BIG, his HOOS got HOOS (dayo), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean western eastern is prob some cheap Chinese knokoff
hahah
i like oceangate and faxtor
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
In the past year I have bought two Seagates, five WDs and three Samsungs. The reason I bought three Samsungs is that every single one of them died prematurely because they are made by the cack-handed goons at Samsung.
― I went 62 days without WD and then fell back to MB (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link
here's the thing
the drive lights up when i plug it into the computer, but it makes no sound
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
that may be bad news but try it in an enclosure or another machine first
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
it got no love from the ps3... i guess i'll invest in an enclosure. i'll need a new HD anyway so i guess i'll get another internal too so it wont be a total waste of cashish if it doesnt work.
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
good plansh
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah if you just need massive storage that need not be particularly portable, an enclosure and a bunch of 3.5" OEM internal drives is a very good way to go.
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link
what do we think of the caviar green line?
should i get a mega-enclosure?
fuck usb2.0 i'm going fw800 this time.
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
should i get this?
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54483&vpn=EZQE61302&manufacture=Ezquest
stick 2 1tb drives in it?
will 2tb drives work do you think?
and then do i use it for... time machine? or superduper backup? or just to store my photos/videos off my laptop?
i cant wait till someone figures out a way for me not to have to think about this stuff all the time
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
if you're looking to spend "mad bank" then a NAS enclosure with 4 drives and RAID is "mad upgradable" and good from a data security POV. that's going to be ~1000 units of currency.
what is a mega-enclosure?
fw800 ftw.
xp
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
by mega i mean a RAID
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
not an expert on this stuff, but that seems kind of expensive for what it is.
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
do you understand what different RAID levels mean?
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i have to go and watch that shitty sofia coppolsh movie now, some other nerd will cover for me, i trust
― caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i do not
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
s1ocki if you're gonna go that way i will strongly rep for synology products, specifically this -
http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS211j/index.php
which is wayyy more than just an enclosure - it'll let you log in remotely, FTP, serve web pages, DL torrents, etc
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a way of life
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
if you set it up in RAID 1 you'll get data redundancy (everything is mirrored, so if one drive fails you can restore from the other one).. of course, caek would have you then back this up weekly to another external drive which you store at your mother's house or in an underground lead-lined bunker
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link
i use mine to store all my music and to take my time machine backups (you can use it as a time machine target)
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link
here's my issue.
i want a good backup of my laptop HD for obv reasons
but i also deal wiht a lot of big media files - HD video, RAW photo etc, which i have redundantly scattered around various drives
so i need at least one backup hd for my laptop (i have one, running time machine)as well as at least one external for media filesas well as ANOTHER to back up the media drive
so many hard drivesit's fucking annoying
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
well, caek would have me drawn and quartered for saying so, but i accomplish all that with a two-bay NAS
- create a backup volume on it (for time machine)- create another volume called "music", another called "video", another called "photos", etc- and... i don't back it up. i probably should. but since it's RAID 1, if one drive fails it's no biggie. get another drive of the same size, pop it in, and you're back to full redundancy in an hour or two
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
you can mount the volumes via AFP, SMB or NFS
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess a two-bay nas with 2 2TB drives in it?
i don't think a mirrored 1TB drive would be enough for my data-hungry needs
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Storage is so cheap atm. The 2Tb I bought yesterday cost $145, which is $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
*hangs, draws and quarters tracer*
― caek, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
> $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$
and probably £145
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link
£145 would get you a 1.2Mb floppy these days.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Raid isn't a backup: what if some installer goes mental and deletes the Pictures folder? An iTunes installer wiped out music folders stored on external volumes, once.
― stet, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Eek. Don't put your iTunes Music folder on your external drive, is what I'd say. I mean YMMV obv but I feel pretty safe since there's no apps or system files at all on there.
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I do Time Machine backups on the Mac, sod-all on the Ubuntu (nothing important lives there anymore) and wholesale drag & drop all my video media across to a dedicated ext hdd.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link
But stet you're right - RAID 1 is protection against physical drive failure (i.e. what happened to s1ocks) but not anything else.
What if an installer went mental on your NAS and you didn't notice for a month? In that case you'd really need Time Machine, or something like it. But can you even make Time Machine happen between two external drives?
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure you can, because I'm pretty sure mine keeps trying to do it. If your ext hdd is big enough Time Machine tries to annexe it, but you can whack a hidden file in the root telling Time Machine to bugger off.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes but if the drive you want to back up isn't connected physically, but lives on the network..
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, I dunno then.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link
> sod-all on the Ubuntu
i'm using Dirvish for backup. it's slightly friendlier than raw rsync or rsnapshot without being the gui-fest that is TimeVault.
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Oooh ta, I'll have a crack. Got sick of trying to find a package that worked.
― unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
package = GUI package