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do you understand what different RAID levels mean?

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i have to go and watch that shitty sofia coppolsh movie now, some other nerd will cover for me, i trust

caek, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i do not

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

s1ocki if you're gonna go that way i will strongly rep for synology products, specifically this -

http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS211j/index.php

which is wayyy more than just an enclosure - it'll let you log in remotely, FTP, serve web pages, DL torrents, etc

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a way of life

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

if you set it up in RAID 1 you'll get data redundancy (everything is mirrored, so if one drive fails you can restore from the other one).. of course, caek would have you then back this up weekly to another external drive which you store at your mother's house or in an underground lead-lined bunker

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i use mine to store all my music and to take my time machine backups (you can use it as a time machine target)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

here's my issue.

i want a good backup of my laptop HD for obv reasons

but i also deal wiht a lot of big media files - HD video, RAW photo etc, which i have redundantly scattered around various drives

so i need at least one backup hd for my laptop (i have one, running time machine)
as well as at least one external for media files
as well as ANOTHER to back up the media drive

so many hard drives
it's fucking annoying

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

well, caek would have me drawn and quartered for saying so, but i accomplish all that with a two-bay NAS

- create a backup volume on it (for time machine)
- create another volume called "music", another called "video", another called "photos", etc
- and... i don't back it up. i probably should. but since it's RAID 1, if one drive fails it's no biggie. get another drive of the same size, pop it in, and you're back to full redundancy in an hour or two

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

you can mount the volumes via AFP, SMB or NFS

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i guess a two-bay nas with 2 2TB drives in it?

i don't think a mirrored 1TB drive would be enough for my data-hungry needs

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Storage is so cheap atm. The 2Tb I bought yesterday cost $145, which is $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

*hangs, draws and quarters tracer*

caek, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

> $145 in CA$ and $145 in US$

and probably £145

koogs, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:24 (thirteen years ago) link

£145 would get you a 1.2Mb floppy these days.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Raid isn't a backup: what if some installer goes mental and deletes the Pictures folder? An iTunes installer wiped out music folders stored on external volumes, once.

stet, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Eek. Don't put your iTunes Music folder on your external drive, is what I'd say. I mean YMMV obv but I feel pretty safe since there's no apps or system files at all on there.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I do Time Machine backups on the Mac, sod-all on the Ubuntu (nothing important lives there anymore) and wholesale drag & drop all my video media across to a dedicated ext hdd.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

But stet you're right - RAID 1 is protection against physical drive failure (i.e. what happened to s1ocks) but not anything else.

What if an installer went mental on your NAS and you didn't notice for a month? In that case you'd really need Time Machine, or something like it. But can you even make Time Machine happen between two external drives?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure you can, because I'm pretty sure mine keeps trying to do it. If your ext hdd is big enough Time Machine tries to annexe it, but you can whack a hidden file in the root telling Time Machine to bugger off.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes but if the drive you want to back up isn't connected physically, but lives on the network..

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I dunno then.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

> sod-all on the Ubuntu

i'm using Dirvish for backup. it's slightly friendlier than raw rsync or rsnapshot without being the gui-fest that is TimeVault.

koogs, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Oooh ta, I'll have a crack. Got sick of trying to find a package that worked.

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

package = GUI package

unintentional boob pic (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

guys what are our thoughts on DROBO... sounds like, though a bit pricey, it could do what i want it to do?

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

had thought readynas was better(cheaper?) than drobo? I don't have either, though I have been messing round with Openfiler recently, seems good so far

for local/fw drives, I've been using G-Techs

cherry blossom, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the advantage of the synology boxes is really in the software and admin interface, really. you can create any number of volumes on the fly, create users with difft levels of access, quotas, etc., do UPnP, fileshare, FTP, etc - screenshots here:

http://www.techspot.com/review/169-synology-ds409p/page4.html

(that's a different, more expensive box but the software is basically the same across all their models)

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont think i really to do much of that stuff, as cool as it sounds...

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

really need to

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

well the budget 2-bay synology is $200 so if the drobo or whatever is cheaper then, yeah! but i've found it's really nice to be able to get a file off of it when i'm, say, not at home. and it works reallly well as a torrent seedbox uh, media thing.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

the four-bay drobo is about $100 more expensive... hrm

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

FOUR! daaaaaamn.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.drobo.com/resources/drobocalculator.php

shirley summistake (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

UPDATE

i didnt do anything and my drive is still uh.. 'sleeping'

but i found an old backup of my itunes library dating to one year ago on another drive, so at least i rescued a bunch of tunes

as you were

tickle me imo (s1ocki), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://limelighttalent.org/Images/index_bow_stage.jpg

tickle me imo (s1ocki), Monday, 13 December 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i thohght abut getting a drobo but i heard the device itself is not too reliable

deej me how to whiney (dayo), Monday, 13 December 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

im hearing its slow which is not really good for my purpz

tickle me imo (s1ocki), Monday, 13 December 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

How can I get a battery for an old Thinkpad? IBM/Lenovo don't make 'em anymore, and I don't want to buy a third-party one and get gipped.

calstars, Sunday, 19 December 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

bloody windows 7. how come i can't perform administrator actions in my administrator account, yer know like simple fucking tasks such as saving a fucking file to a location?

F-Unit (Ste), Sunday, 19 December 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno, it was your idea.

e.g. delete via naivete (ledge), Sunday, 19 December 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i think some of the locations are psuedo directories and don't actually exist. first they came for the file extensions but i said nothing...

koogs, Sunday, 19 December 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

battery - ebay?

location.. depends where and what you're trying to write to!
system folders will put up some kind of fight. elevate whatever program you're using by shift > run as different user (then admin creds as normal.

as ever, you want real pain go look at the mac threads lol

fndgo, Sunday, 19 December 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

So my building, which is owned by my school, provides wireless to my apartment via a wireless router in the hallway. The connection speed SUCKS and I can't help but think it's at least partly due to the low signal. Any way to boost my computer's receptivity to the signal and thereby improve the connection?

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

How's your bars looking?

It could well just be a dirty signal, but if you've got reasonable signal strength it's worth at least exploring your options.

The Hankerciser 200 (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 02:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I usually have near full bars. What's a dirty signal?

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Your signal could be strong but full of interference, say for example if it's bouncing around a hallway and feeding its own echo into itself. A bit like how telly used to look back before digital, if you were behind a load of trees and copped bad ghosting.

The Hankerciser 200 (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that's likely the problem. So is there something I can do about it? I can't really alter the box in the hall, so I'm wondering if there's something I can hook up in my apartment / to my computer.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really not sure to be honest. It could be one of a number of factors.

Do you run a load of torrents?

The Hankerciser 200 (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 20 January 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link


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