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(I think Denby's disapproval of that trend in contemporary movies had a whiff of homosexual panic around it.)

I can't believe you all watch that sexist filth when you could be enjoying the egalitarian Trapped in the Closet.

Some one convince me to go running today.

yeah, someone convince me, too.

<i>...when heat isn't being generated out of overt sexism, like it was in the 30s and 40s, women just drop off the radar as interesting characters. guess I think it's kind of exciting from an artistic perspective, because it's uncharted territory. some directors who are invested in female characters need to get on this, I guess.</i>

I think these kinds of stories and movies are being made all the time (of the once I've seen in the past few weeks <i>Once</i> and <i>Before Sunset</i> come to mind. Maybe there's a new model for the romantic comedy out there that hasn't been made yet. It's just that these movies aren't going to be summer blockbusters.

Though, you know, <i>The Breakfast Club</i> kind of pulled this off, as far as a Hollywood movie targeted to mall kids.

Ooh, look at all those pretty attempts at tagging italics.

I would love to go running. I can't wait till I can again. Jeff, horseshoe: run! Run while you can! For tomorrow you might have no legs!

that's true, Eric, maybe I'm just talking about an outdated model of movie. but Before Sunset isn't really a romantic comedy in my mind, just a romantic movie. maybe it's the comedy where the conservatism enters. also, don't really think of TBC as a romantic comedy.

Yeah, I started thinking about movies in general more than outright romantic comedies. The comedies will always have men and women with hang-ups, but it's hard to know what would be a new way to tell a story about those hang-ups in a way that was both satisfying and innovative.

Superbad has a really interesting relationship at its center, and its not between a woman a man, it's between two high school boys. Ebert says: "In its very raunchiness, it finds truth, because if you know nothing about sex, how can you be tasteful and sophisticated on the subject?" The Seth character is gross (and funny) about "getting some vadge", but of course he has never had sex. The Evan (George Michael) character is more respectful, but he turns "respectful" into its own fetish. There's a great sequence where he forces himself to get drunk just to keep up, and then when he gets to the girl, she wants him to drink more. He makes a slurry toast to "respect for women." The movie never for a second makes adolescent sex look any less awful and awkward than you remember it.

Don't believe the previews, Jenny, this movie is great.

Not exactly related, but sort of:

One of the trainees at the restaurant saw his training server put the bill down in between a man and a woman, and he called her on it, saying, asking her why she didn't put it in front of the man. She explained that females pay as often as males, and that especially at lunch, it is business, not a date, and that makes it even more likely that the woman will pay.

He argued with her, saying that even at a business lunch the woman should never pay. Then he asked her which side of the bed she slept on, near the wall or on the outside. She said slept by the wall, which he explained was because the man always sleeps on the outside to protect the woman from intruders.

Later I heard him asking the other males if they would ever expect a woman to pay, and when they said, sure, why not, he said, "Guys, guys, come on. I know you're supposed to say that because of liberal feminists rights (his exact words) but be serious! The guy always pays!"

What's weird is that he was an experienced server. So for years he had been dropping the check smack in front of the man.

His protests lasted for a couple of shifts and he wouldn't let it drop, and he caught a lot of shit for it. He quit before his training was up.

Ebert also pint out that the filthy language is barely hiding an awful longing and desperation, but the difference with this movie is that it knows how awful it is. It's not "Revenge of the Nerds." It's a lot lot smarter than that.

great moment: Michael Cera (George Michael) is with a girl who's determined to fuck him. But the way that's handled is very not-teen-comedy... you get the sense of her self esteem problems and her pressure to have sex at any cost. George Michael is very uncomfortable with this way of losing his virginity, as well he should be.

Girl: "I'm so wet!"
Cera: "Yeah, they said that would happen in health class..."

You have to see it, I guess, but it made the theater I was in laugh enough that I missed the next 30 seconds of dialogue.

That happened a lot. It made the movie seem lush and verdant with comedy since they had enough funny that they could afford to throw in lines that would be lost in the wake of a big laugh.

There was a fucking asshole behind me who was compelled to say things like, "What a fucking pussy! Just fuck her, faggot!" And when the guys were bonding while drunk I thought he was going to jump out of his seat as he said, "Oh damn! They're faggots! What the fuck are they doing??"

he was otm. There is nothing more gay than two straight adolescent best friends.

except for, maybe, gay people.

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Lord of the Rings is all about leaving the homosocial bonds of adolescence for pretty girls.

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you are all otm

so...we were thinking about seeing 'knocked up' tonight. am i going to hate it? this thread has made me wonder if i'll find it annoying, although i've been trying to skim so i don't see any spoilers.

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You know there's a H&K II, right?

I missed the preview, but Courtney said they go to Amsterdam.

Please, why would I not know that?

They try to go to Amsteram

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Hi guys.

the man always sleeps on the outside to protect the woman from intruders.

I sleep on the outside. I handle the intruders, and Jeff handles the under-the-bed monsters, which come up from the side closest to the wall.

Collette, I don't know you, but Knocked Up annoyed me. To be fair, though, it also made me LOL a lot (the Paul Rudd (who I know now is not Paul Riser)/curly haired guy relationship (which, right on HS, it is the total focus of the romantic comedy in JA's movies) was truly hilarious). So I guess it depends on how analytical you're feeling. Maybe get really drunk first. That's just good advice generally.

Also, Collette, hi. You've met my husband (Jeff) but not me since I was all studying and stuff when you all went out. I look forward to meeting you one day.

Hi Dan Martin.

I think I want to do something. I don't know what, though. I'm antsy and borderline depressed but I can't put my finger on why.

Maybe all the air show noise is unearthing subconscious childhood fears of nuclear attacks.

Actually I think it's because I am faced (again, god) with the old "climb on the food obsession/WW/deprivation bandwagon and fit into that suit" (this will be the third time I've outgrown and then re-fit into that fucking thing) or "just be fat and buy a new one, already" dilemma. It's not helping much that I'm hungry for lunch.

Will you all still be my friends if I end up circus fat lady fat? Because seriously, I beginning to realize that's a possibility.

Wow. Feminism, vaginas, weight problems, and cripplingly low self-esteem. I sure am cramming a semester's worth of ILX chatting into one morning!

Jenny I'm going to send you an email (about this very thing)!

I ran! I timed myself on 5k, 27:53 from Cornelia/Broadway to North Avenue. I ran back, but a lot slower. I was slowed by air show crowds.

I like running in the rain.

Will you all still be my friends if I end up circus fat lady fat?

Is this a trick question? Because of course the answer is yes, but... is that the answer you want?

Don't ask those questions.

I will have no friends fatter than Divine. That's where I draw the line. So don't get fatter than Divine, and you're golden.

;)

whatis happening

Is anything happening tonight?

hi jenny, i look forward to meeting you as well. i think this weird weather contributes to weird feelings. i'm also a bit antsy today, but don't know what to do, plus it's so crappy out. i think i want to take a nap, but know i wouldn't sleep tonight if i do, which isn't good.

dan, are you planning on going to anymore footie games this year? the USA/Brazil one is a bit expensive, but i'd be interested in going to a normal game.

Watching the Fire
Beers somewhere? Probably after 10.

xpost Yes, not the one next weekend because of my sister's wedding, but any after that!

Kr and I are going to August: Osage County tonight. Text me if something happens later, but the show won't get out until like 11, I suspect.

Courtney and I are formulating a plan. As of now it consists of the following:

1. Go to a bar.
2. ???
3. Profit!

Okay, not really number 3. We're trying to decide on a bar. Something that isn't awash in smoke would be preferable.

if anyone's still reading this, i'm probably going to a bar tonight with some chapel hillians. somewhere down around by me though - WP or Uke V.

seeing the thunderbirds at the end of the air show, while "proud to be an american" was playing over the PA, actually made me a tad bit emotional! am i a wuss or what? they also played limp bizkit's "rollin" while the thunderbirds did rolling maneuvers.

Play formulated. We will be at Galway Bay (NOT Galway Arms, although if Galway Bay is no good, we an always run into Galway's lovin' Arms) at 500 W. Diversey at 8 pm. Be there or don't be there.

Sarah and I are going to see Cococoma at Ronny's I think.