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Yeah, I'll hate too, thank you very much.

I'm told that the loan for the house I'm buying is structured in such a way that I can deduct the entirety of my mortgage payments. Something smells very Fat Tony about it, but if true I'm really looking forward to that.

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting a nice refund myself, but don't hate me, as it's pretty much all getting funnelled right towards paying off other debt.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm getting a pretty nice refund, although I think I missed out on some deductions I could have made and wasn't QUITE sure about some of the things I did deduct. I won't be able to spend it on anything fun anyway.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I won't hate you Girolamo since, according to the other thread, you are supposed to be dead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My refund is better than your refund

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a death-and-taxes joke in there somewhere, but I'm too busy hatin' on the folks getting refunds to think of one. (xpost)

m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I got a small refund about a month ago, after filing my taxes about three weeks before that. I've begun to utilize the assistance of the same woman my mother goes to, at an H&R Block place. She is the absolute best and makes the whole process go as smoothly as possible, which is really great because Lord knows there are more than enough headaches one can encounter in one's financial life without even going into the whole "taxes" issue!

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah. All I have to say is, fuck a self-employment tax.

the krza (krza), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I just telefiled for the first time. Easy as pie. But then again, I'm single and only worked one job last year.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...
I spent all day today going through mounds of receipts from the last five years, to prepare some back taxes. I'm probably gonna owe big time since I didn't file from 2000 on. (I tried to for 2000 but they wanted rent receipts and I didn't have 'em; I wasn't on a lease then. I haven't had one till last February, actually. Should be interesting.) And HOLY FUCK do my hands hurt! Cab receipts are TINY. ALL receipts are tiny, in fact.

I'm trying to get it done by Tuesday so I can just go to my accountant's and be like, "here's the stuff, it's done, go to it." Then I get to watch my hard-earned checking account drain away. Sigh. It'll be worth it to have it behind me, though.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Did 2002 already; the other years are separated out. So I have to go through 2000-1 and 2003 and figure out my total income and deductibles. I'll go to it tomorrow; right now I'm beat (and at the office, where all the paperwork is, eurgh.)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

2004 will be done during normal tax time, as w/everyone else.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

I finally did my Taxes for the last financial year yesterday. It was a lot easier than I'd built it up to be.

Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 16 January 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

yeah, if it weren't for all the damn bits of paper (five frickin' years' worth, ugh) so would mine be.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

whoo, that sounds awful matos! Things will be a little worse this year for me than usual because I have to figure my and my husband's taxes separately, then together to see which way is better, but at least I'm fairly certain there's a refund at the end. Back taxes, yuck.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
okay, exactly how strict are they about monitoring moving expenses? mine may or may not be work-related, in that i left michigan with one job, then drove to oregon, and eventually got another job.

Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Everyone having fun yet? (Calculated mine for feds and state today and essentially have a 'refund' in that the amount I set aside regularly each year to cover things beyond withholding will barely need to be touched, so I'll apply the balance to the Euro trip -- most handy.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 March 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

oh fuck I have to go to an accountant soon

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

A nice refund this year, for once. My accountant suggested that I use it to make all of this year's quarterly estimated payments in advance and I said "hahahaha... no."

Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

ever since i learned they have people who correct your mistakes, i just fill in random numbers and send them all my forms and stuff to "double-check".

jones (actual), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
So, yeah. 1099-MISC from City Pages, roughly $2500 in "self-employment" earnings. Do I use Schedule C, Schedule C-EZ or Schedule F (for profit/loss from farming)? Probably not F, of course. But I can't figure out how to use the other two. And then I guess I need Schedule SE on top of it all?!

Nothing was taken from that relatively small amount of profit, but I assume it will absolutely drain any chance I have at a refund. (The last few years have been just under $1K.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

I used turbotax online this year since I had some tricky stuff, I totally loved it. It cost like 50 bucks for the state and federal combined though.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

oh shit, i should do mine soon.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

GO FUCK YOURSELF STATE OF CALIFORNIA

I can't see how I can possibly owe you two grand. I'm sure there are people who make twice as much as me who don't owe fuck.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

FUCK A TAX DAY

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Have fun!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Argh...

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

We owe the same as Kyle. Fucking ridiculous.

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I haven't done mine yet. I'll do them tonight or tomorrow.

I r queen of last minute taxes.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I still don't get how you end up owing two grand (esp. in Kyle's case, hasn't had the same job all year.) Is your company fucking up what they take out or is their a withholding screwup? Crazy!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

2 grand! How horrific. :-( That's gotta be some fucked up withholding thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

You need a system like the British tax system! - good, solid, reliable, British!

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

http://www.armchairhawk.com/images/mainsmall.jpg

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

got mine done 3 weeks ago -- got my fed refund last week, my NY refund (all of $9) is due tomorrow.

suckahs :-P

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I did my taxes months ago and already got my money back ($200 for federal and about $250 for state.) It was nice.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

arr i need my refund please send me my refund

jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

What is the amount that if you make less than that you don't have to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Damned 1099 income. Instead of the usual grand I get. I'm only getting $250 from the govt and then have to take $180 out of that to give to the state of MN. Damn.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I ended up in a situation similar to Eric. My Fed. refund is paying my State taxes.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

hey just be thankful that you don't have to pay taxes to TWO states -- BOTH of which have some of the highest state income tax rates in the country!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Tad, sweetie, how much do you have to make in order to pay taxes?

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

$7,951 and up and you have to file

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I was owing a few hundred dollars because of federal self-employment taxes on the 1099 from my band, so I had to come up with all sorts of music-related deductions (all the cds I bought, gear, gas, rehearsal space food, etc.) to get in the red.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

(gross)-federal.

xpost

kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

i just got 5 bucks more on Telefile than what I calculated myself. sweet.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

did you ask for your refund to be direct deposited jody? I did and it happened within the week! It was great!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the baseline! I searched all over the IRS site and couldn'd find it.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

goddamn it I wrote a big thing and it got POXY FULED

anyway, you wind up owing money this way:

if you're married, and you mark "married filing jointly" on your withholding forms at work, they withhold LESS money from your check than they would if you marked "single." this is because the tax system (wrongly, in almost all cases) assumes that if you're married and filing jointly, you're supporting your wife. If both people are working, you have to go through the two-earner, two job worksheet to find out what the difference is b/w what they'll withhold and how much taxes you will actually owe. This is almost always short though for some reason. (note: this is all only true for Federal. State, which is what I owe, doesn't bother to give you a nice worksheet to figure this out. They just say "fuck you", give you no tools to find out how much you owe, and then charge you when you're short. This is called "California is broke and squeezing you for money, bitches.").

If your income fluctuates from month to month because of overtime or bonuses or something, then God help you.


Being married sucks for taxes because of this, and also, this: say you make 70k. Say your spouse make 40k. If you're single, you pay the tax rate for someone making 70k, and your spouse would pay the rate for someone making 40k. But if you're married, you pay the rate for ONE income making 110k. Which is a higher percentage than the others. This means you pay more taxes when you're married than single people making the same money. This is called the marriage penalty and everyone thinks that they got rid of it last year. They did, but only for very low income people. The rest of the country (ie: the middle class) gets fucked.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

but, thank god for schedule C. I got to deduct 3k worth of business expenses.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

AKM makes a great case for why you should always elect to have taxes taken out at the single rate.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I seriously doubt that, T … re audit

sarahell, Monday, 13 May 2024 17:02 (one year ago)

Though I totally understand the anxiety… I remember when I got cited for having “borrowed” registration tags on my car and I had convinced myself that I was going to be sentenced to jail or picking up garbage on the freeway in a yellow vest … I ended up with a $250 fine and that’s it

sarahell, Monday, 13 May 2024 17:05 (one year ago)

six months pass...

My tax preparer is a Republican (they're hard to avoid around here), and we've tacitly agreed to avoid politics when I meet with him every year. I asked him if there were any tax credits for our new heat pump, and got in a dig at red states that dragged their feet about implementation of the Inflation Reduction Act, hoping for a Trump win so they wouldn't have to do anything at all. He sent me an info sheet with a list of tax credits, seemingly not specifically tied to the IRA, and said I'd qualify for the $600 for a new AC. I said "what about the $2K further down the page that specifically refers to heat pumps?" He said "oh gosh you're right!" I think I need a new tax person.

WmC, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 16:42 (seven months ago)

I don’t use ILX to solicit clients but if you want to DM me about it…

sarahell, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 16:55 (seven months ago)

two months pass...

Huzzah. (Everything is ready, I just need one more form, and it sure would be nice to get that one more form, he said generally to the universe.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 21:08 (five months ago)

Man there’s stuff I don’t get until well into February

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 21:15 (five months ago)

Thought the bump would be with the deadline looming here in the UK.

brain (krakow), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 22:57 (five months ago)

two months pass...

Balls

trm (tombotomod), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 18:18 (three months ago)

The Doge kids approved my refund, so that’s one less thing to worry about.

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 18:39 (three months ago)

Gotta pay the man this year. (Last year was weird income-wise and I misunderestimated my estimated payments.) Wonder what happens if I don't ...

jk jk but for real who will even notice?

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 18:45 (three months ago)

I've wondered that myself. I decided last year to stop claiming a business loss on my old freelance work in 2025, but I think I could go along for a few more years with doge's blessing.

I think we're all Bezos on this bus (WmC), Wednesday, 2 April 2025 20:32 (three months ago)

i’ve had a refund in the mail to me for about a month now.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 21:12 (three months ago)

not looking forward to this

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 April 2025 21:16 (three months ago)

Having to tell people they owe money to corrupt fascists is unpleasant.

sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2025 15:10 (three months ago)

Olson discussed the impact of the cuts during a March 24 appearance on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, where she said that between layoffs and buyouts, up to 50% of the IRS’s staff could eventually be cut. She explained that taxpayers must work with the IRS well beyond tax season and that the staffing cuts will make it difficult to get through to anyone on the phone to resolve their problems or have their correspondence processed in a timely manner. With the IRS’s move toward automation, more taxpayers will receive automatic notices but won’t be able to contact a person working for the agency to resolve them, she said.

sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2025 20:26 (three months ago)

Wonder what happens if I don't ...

jk jk but for real who will even notice?

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, April 2, 2025 2:45 PM (yesterday)

i had a tax mishap w/ an old account over covid where my payment wasn't sent and honestly nothing really happens you just get a letter one day saying you owe money from an old return

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 April 2025 20:39 (three months ago)

There’s stuff that’s automated like if what they have on file indicates that you owe but you haven’t paid… so they will notice, because it’s easy to automate… there are other things that automation doesn’t catch and can go unnoticed/unenforced …

Basically you get a letter saying you owe … then, if you don’t pay, you get another letter… they add penalties and interest… if you still don’t pay (or amend the return), you will get a letter saying they are imposing a lien. If you are due a refund in a future year, they will likely take it to pay the balance due. They can also garnish wages, and levy bank accounts…

sarahell, Thursday, 3 April 2025 20:56 (three months ago)

Your refund was mailed on March 07, 2025. For information about how to file a claim because you have not received your refund check, please read the information below.

If you did not receive a check, or it was lost, stolen, or destroyed, you may file a claim if you know your current address.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:25 (two months ago)

fml

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 April 2025 11:25 (two months ago)

Oh no

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:13 (two months ago)

No direct deposit for you?

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 10 April 2025 12:57 (two months ago)

I don’t have a US bank account. tbf the letter is being mailed internationally but even so..

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 April 2025 13:09 (two months ago)

We had some useless accountants do our taxes a couple years ago and for whatever reason they had our refund mailed to us instead of direct depositing it. Some dummy intercepted the letter from IRS, endorsed the check IN HIS OWN NAME, and we had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get the IRS to send us a replacement. It was a huge refund too!

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 10 April 2025 15:32 (two months ago)

Did they have your bank info? Did you specifically request direct deposit? … Not to get into the minutiae of tax software defaults and legal requirements for the practice … but, in general, clients tend to assume accountants have psychic powers and access to special databases that they absolutely do not.

sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:11 (two months ago)

They had it direct deposited to us the year before! And they didn’t even ask our preference the year this happened. We fired them and I just do my own taxes now.

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:13 (two months ago)

But you just assumed that it would be the same? … Dude … no. Maybe they sucked in other ways, but confirming check vs direct deposit is your responsibility as the client.

sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:19 (two months ago)

OK

trm (tombotomod), Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:20 (two months ago)

Like imagine if you changed banks at some point in the past year and they just had the refund direct deposited to the same account? … You would probably have ended up getting a check tbh.

sarahell, Thursday, 10 April 2025 16:22 (two months ago)


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