I'm told that the loan for the house I'm buying is structured in such a way that I can deduct the entirety of my mortgage payments. Something smells very Fat Tony about it, but if true I'm really looking forward to that.
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 15 April 2004 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 15 April 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― the krza (krza), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm trying to get it done by Tuesday so I can just go to my accountant's and be like, "here's the stuff, it's done, go to it." Then I get to watch my hard-earned checking account drain away. Sigh. It'll be worth it to have it behind me, though.
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 16 January 2005 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 16 January 2005 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish MuffMiner 2049er (Kingfish), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 March 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― jones (actual), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Nothing was taken from that relatively small amount of profit, but I assume it will absolutely drain any chance I have at a refund. (The last few years have been just under $1K.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
I can't see how I can possibly owe you two grand. I'm sure there are people who make twice as much as me who don't owe fuck.
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)
I r queen of last minute taxes.
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)
suckahs :-P
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― jody the country girl doll (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 April 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
xpost
― kephm, Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)
anyway, you wind up owing money this way:
if you're married, and you mark "married filing jointly" on your withholding forms at work, they withhold LESS money from your check than they would if you marked "single." this is because the tax system (wrongly, in almost all cases) assumes that if you're married and filing jointly, you're supporting your wife. If both people are working, you have to go through the two-earner, two job worksheet to find out what the difference is b/w what they'll withhold and how much taxes you will actually owe. This is almost always short though for some reason. (note: this is all only true for Federal. State, which is what I owe, doesn't bother to give you a nice worksheet to figure this out. They just say "fuck you", give you no tools to find out how much you owe, and then charge you when you're short. This is called "California is broke and squeezing you for money, bitches.").
If your income fluctuates from month to month because of overtime or bonuses or something, then God help you.
Being married sucks for taxes because of this, and also, this: say you make 70k. Say your spouse make 40k. If you're single, you pay the tax rate for someone making 70k, and your spouse would pay the rate for someone making 40k. But if you're married, you pay the rate for ONE income making 110k. Which is a higher percentage than the others. This means you pay more taxes when you're married than single people making the same money. This is called the marriage penalty and everyone thinks that they got rid of it last year. They did, but only for very low income people. The rest of the country (ie: the middle class) gets fucked.
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 April 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
you can pay taxes off over 12-24 month periods w/ interest rates that are pretty low compared to an interest rate you'd get on what is essentially a loan. if you can pay a chunk of it upfront and then spread the rest out over a period of time at the cost of a few hundred extra bucks it's prob worth it imo (nyc freelancer life)
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 15:35 (two weeks ago)
idk what magic sarahell used, but we got a big return this year after being totally screwed last year
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 15:37 (two weeks ago)
Lol you can pay taxes off over whatever period you want… you aren’t required to sign up for an official payment plan. The main benefit of the official payment plan is that you won’t risk wage garnishments … as a freelancer, this wouldn’t be relevant.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:01 (two weeks ago)
Geese are even getting their songtitles to the top of ILE, it's all paid for
― imago, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:03 (two weeks ago)
― sarahell, Tuesday, April 14, 2026 12:01 PM (thirteen minutes ago)
helpful tip and i didn't even have to pay you!
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:14 (two weeks ago)
sorry to link to l*ss wr*ng but here is a post from a guy who has made his entire personality about filing taxes correctly but not paying them... apparently the IRS can't do much thanks to statutes of limitation https://www.lesswrong .com/posts/AskPyNg6hHP6SrmEy/redirecting-one-s-own-taxes-as-an-effective-altruism-method
― 龜, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:18 (two weeks ago)
Uh, the IRS can do things … dude is just lucky.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:20 (two weeks ago)
I had a client during the Iraq war who mailed her payment to the social security administration as a protest action (it was self-employment tax) … didn’t work out for her, sadly.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:22 (two weeks ago)
my returns are usually pretty simple... I used the new IRS free file last year which worked very well, and of course was cancelled by the Trump admin. I'm sure Turbo Tax or someone like that made a hefty contribution to make it go away
So I went down to the library and got the paper forms... If they're gonna inconvenience me, then I'm gonna inconvenience them
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:50 (two weeks ago)
I took an early distribution from my 401k last year, from which was withheld about a third in taxes, but they failed to warn me about the 5-figure tax penalty I have to pay also. For using my own frigging money.
― the days don't get easier, the gaps just get bigger (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 16:54 (two weeks ago)
Got my first significant return (not even that significant really) in ages because all I had was a W-2, no self-employment income or EBay. Finishing in under 15 minutes was pretty nice.
― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 17:03 (two weeks ago)
Xp — did you look through the various exceptions to the penalty and determine none applied?
It is super demoralizing telling clients that they owe under this administration… I have a trans client who is afraid to deduct her medical expenses for gender affirming treatment…
― sarahell, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 17:31 (two weeks ago)
I did, and every exception I checked it was like, "lol, nope!"
― the days don't get easier, the gaps just get bigger (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 19:09 (two weeks ago)
my tax prep people have really jacked up their prices and it's now almost double what they cost when i started using them a few years ago so i used an online site for expats. it probably took 4-5 hours to fill everything out and collect all the info but they only charge like $175 for it and it worked fine― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, April 15, 2026 1:09 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, April 15, 2026 1:09 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Tell me about this site. E pays an absolute fortune to get her US expat taxes done.
― Ed, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 19:54 (two weeks ago)
We owe close to five grand this year. We collectively made 72 grand last year. We don't have 5 grand.
Fuck this shithole country.
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:16 (two weeks ago)
that sucks! sorry to hear that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:22 (two weeks ago)
if anyone is stressing, I just used an online free filing thing called TaxSlayer and it went pretty well... no charge and they were able to file my CA taxes as well
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:25 (two weeks ago)
TurboTax wanted to charge me $70 to file with student loan interest (of maybe $15?), so I used one of the free ones on the IRS site.
― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:33 (two weeks ago)
i filed for an extension and we’re going to go to a tax person. i am pretty sure that what is happening is that because we file together, it is thinking that i am receiving excess ACA subsidies…. but I pay for my plan myself?
i just can’t believe this shit. 7% of our yearly income, and for what!
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 21:38 (two weeks ago)
Figured it out: basically, I gave our financial info to PA ACA marketplace— if there are changes in income, then you are supposed to inform them. Of course, I didn't think to inform them when my husband became salaried and started making a fair amount more money in September, because why would I? But this altered our tax liability, and thus altered what I would have been offered in subsidies, and now we need to pay some/all of that back.
Sick sad world.
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 22:47 (two weeks ago)
Ugh that sucks.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 April 2026 23:00 (two weeks ago)
table that is exactly what happened to me when I owed last year, my sympathies
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 00:08 (one week ago)
now I have no ACA at all, so that's that
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 00:09 (one week ago)
― Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Tuesday, April 14, 2026 2:33 PM (four hours ago)
probably the last year I use them. I owed 1k in federal and got 2k back in state and after all their fees ended up only getting 600-700 or so back
― comrade jhøsh (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 01:56 (one week ago)
Got a decent state refund this year and a very small federal refund. (I use TurboTax.) It helps that my record label loses money every year. But I'm currently in the process of reconfiguring BA as a 501(c)(3), and I lost my day job in October, and I really don't know what effect those two things are gonna have for next year.
― wipes chooser (unperson), Wednesday, 15 April 2026 02:34 (one week ago)
The ACA subsidy repayment thing is one of the things I hate the most about the current tax code (and I am far too familiar with the federal tax code… because I had to study for the fancy licensing exam last year)… there have been caps on repayment in the past, but this year’s stupid bill eliminated them all.
The way they calculate the subsidies can also be weird… idk … I remember how much I had to pay before ACA existed so I always overestimate my income because $300/month for health insurance is still cheap based on my memory. …of course if I couldn’t afford $300/month, that would be a different story.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 19:33 (one week ago)
Meanwhile I have become an accidental salesperson for self-employed retirement accounts…
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 April 2026 19:39 (one week ago)
i have been trying to speak to someone at the IRS for over 2 weeks, I call multiple times a day and get all the way though until it goes to transfer me to someone and then I get the " We are experiencing extreme high volume please try later or tomorrow, bye"
I'm really at my wits end, it's really fucked up for them to send a notice with instructions to call by a certain date and then it's impossible to get through.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 22 April 2026 14:23 (six days ago)