Is this anti-semitism?

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I suspect you understand stats as well as I do. I'm not trying to say anything other than expressing a certain scepticism about the way stats get pushed in press releases to journalists. If asked to guess, I'd say that there was a real, depressing, spike in antisemitic incidents last year, that it's subsiding and that the longer-term trend is flattish.

I'm probably not going to email the CST questions because I'm lazy and would vaguely worry about being mistaken for some weird antisemite obsessing over their work.

Alba, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

well i'm glad yr optimistic but i'm not feeling it myself

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.leparisien.fr/laparisienne/actu-people/antisemitisme-presume-galliano-suspendu-de-ses-fonctions-chez-dior-25-02-2011-1331441.php

Le Parisien is reporting that he said, «Dirty jewish face, you should be dead», and «Fucking Asian bastard, I will kill you». That first one sounds odd. "Sale tête de juif" is a perfectly traditional anti-Semitic thing to say in French but who would say that in English? Maybe he was speaking Franglish.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

oh glenn

not so shocked about the reform rabbis claim as I am rmde at alleging that Holocaust-survivor George Soros collaborated with the Nazis to send Jews to death camps

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, it's anti-Semitic to draw devil horns and a goatee on a picture...?

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

they gave him john galliano's facial hair

Romford Spring (DG), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

According to Rabbi Abraham Cooper, scribbling a beard and devil horns on a photo of someone is "a symbol associated with virulent anti-Semitism going back to the Middle Ages, deployed by the genocidal Nazi regime, by Soviet propagandists and even in 2011 by those who still seek to demonize Jews today."

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/662,2068869/Did-Moses-have-horns.html

buzza, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The mistranslation that causes Michelangelo to portray Moses with horns (instead of 'radiant') has nothing to do with the demonization of a pre-Christian European horned god.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 25 February 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I had heard the "Jews have horns" things before but never actually connected that with the picture defacing

I feel like someone shat on my childhood

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet you drew penises too.

Super Cub, Friday, 25 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

THAT'S ANTI-SEMITIC TOO?????

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

depends - were they circumcised

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I might get a horn making out w/Betty, too.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 25 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Classic. Fashion designer an arrogant hateful dick SHOCKAH!

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

This article was amended on 27 February 2011. The original headline, 'Bon viveur? Yes. Racist? Non', was felt to have been misleading, by giving the impression the writer had concluded John Galliano was not a racist before any allegation had been fully investigated. It has now been changed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/25/john-galliano-paris-shows-doubt

lol

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

"It was the Dom Perignon talking, occifer, honest..."

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

oh gawd

No one was surprised that Dior suspended him pending the police investigation.

yeah, the fashion industry is well known for its high ethical standards

this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

one season, he was Fagin in squished black top hat and hobnail boots;

erm

Romford Spring (DG), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

the 'second mumford and sons album cover look' as it will be known

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, it'll come out he had a "reaction" to medication, or some such...

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Galliano caused offence for what many perceived as gross insensitivity a decade ago when he used outfits improvised against harsh weather by homeless people in Paris, whom he saw every day while out running, as inspiration for a couture collection worth upwards of £10,000 per garment.

haha omg

iatee, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, it'll come out he had a "reaction" to medication, or some such...

"With parole as inducement, Virgil submits to the vaccine test. It is a success, except for one temporary side effect. For several hours, he is turned into a rabbi."

http://dryden.eastmanhouse.org/media/tamo.jpg

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

LOL @ unemployed racist wanker

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Waiting to see how 'troubled' he is - I am suspecting major issues here besides assholism and alcohol, dude was drinking solo which is NAGL but as of now, no scary Dior press office to back up/hide his bullshit. Good on Natalie Portman for speaking up, because I'm sure her threat to quit over it was probably the last straw.

The irony is killing me: a gay man would be oven-ready in Nazi Germany too.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

According to some Guardian journalist on Twitter, Julian Assange has told Private Eye that he blames a "Jewish conspiracy" for his predicament. Classy dude staying classy.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

a gay man would be oven-ready in Nazi Germany too.

Exactly what I was thinking

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

why would he tell private eye that? richard ingrams is no longer editor anyway

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Most people who bang on about Jewish conspiracies don't actually know any Jews for reals.

Disturbing part of the Galliano story is that he's doing sterling work giving homophobes ammo for the 'bitchy gay man' angle in lots of the reporting. Gay friends already complaining about it.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

http://liberalconspiracy.org/images/media/privateeye_assange1.gif

joe, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://liberalconspiracy.org/images/media/privateeye_assange2.gif

joe, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, bit hard to read, try here: http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/03/01/assange-goes-off-deep-end-blaming-jews-and-guardian-in-private-eye/

joe, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, suzy, part of fully accepting the humanity of homosexuals is realizing that their capacity to be drunken, racist assholes is every bit as large as any other person's.

For me, the real story is about how sheltered someone so pampered can become and how that deference paid him has obviously sheltered him from having to interact with normal people who would otherwise call him on this inane BS.

Also, it's interesting to me that Arnault/LVMH acted so quickly and so firmly to protect not only Dior's rep but possibly all their other holdings.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

a gay man would be oven-ready in Nazi Germany too.

eh Ernst Rohm wasn't exactly executed because he was gay y'know

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

MW, I agree with you - I am merely passing on what my friends are complaining about in the reporting of the story and people's comments in social media.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

The Nazis were not as rigorous in their homophobia as in other forms of hate but oven-ready is a felicitous way of putting it, nonetheless, Shakey.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes when i'm in stamford hill morrisons (supermarket) i see lots of jewish people stocking up on baby/face wipes. lots and lots of them. why is this?

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Christian babies need to be ritually cleaned before we make matzos out of them

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

controversial stuff from the west coast lenny bruce as many are calling him

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

shit is it too late to make a "Well he can probably get a job at Hugo Boss" joke or have we moved on to Assange?

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^LOLLLLLL also, Chanel.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

stamford hill eh? reminds me of this delightful piece in the indie

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/christina-patterson/christina-patterson-the-limits-of-multiculturalism-2036861.html

Romford Spring (DG), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, she's all over the place there.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

When I first moved to Stamford Hill, I didn't realise that goyim were about as welcome in Hasidic Jewish shops as Martin Luther King at a Klu Klux Klan convention

first they came for the subeditors

they will have been disappointed not to have been (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

shit is it too late to make a "Well he can probably get a job at Hugo Boss" joke or have we moved on to Assange?

― no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Tuesday, March 1, 2011 5:24 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

nice

this odyssey that refuses to quit calling itself (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link


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