Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

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wtf?!?

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

http://home.gwu.edu/~tombot/spinningFM.gif

roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

WOW!

Torrent of all episodes of Seinfeld ever was at 19.8% when I left for work this morning.

got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

my favorite seinfeld moment: george quits his job, regrets it, tries to go back only to be humiliatingly dismissed by his boss, and plots revenge by trying to "slip him a mickey." the plot goes off brilliantly, but right afterward his boss spots him and is in such a good mood he rehires him. so he proposes a toast while george desperately tries to get the drink away from him.

right up to this point, it's the classic sitcom setup, right out of "the honeymooners," and as old as shakespeare.

but now comes the twist: the boss proposes an utterly condescending, mean-spirited toast to "our shrimpy little friend here" whose "antics we've always enjoyed," and so on. george's face freezes in a moment of self-loathing and perverse glee, and he blurts out: "DRINK UP!"

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Shakey might be insane in not liking Seinfeld, but he's definitely right about Larry=JerrynotGeorge

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That scene also featured Elaine trying to distract the boss by pretending to be a nudist and to be interested in him. "Naked, naked, naked!" = teh hotness.

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And surely Larry is a combination of Jerry and George?

nickn (nickn), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe, but he's definitely not just (or even primarily?) George

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

you know how Jerry does that sort of lean-back moment-of-recognition semi-smiley 'aaooohhh' thing? and how Larry does the same thing? and George never does? yeah.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Seinfeld is the only thing that keeps me going, these days. Srsly it is the only TV show I feel like I can relate to. It's just about people with boring lives who fuck things up for each other and themselves. That's great.

disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Friday, 13 October 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

This is from the Roz Chast thread that popped up today:

Once you turn on Roz Chast, you can never go back. What used to be a little funny or insightful is suddenly insipid and played-out. My guess is that this occurs within the first year of a subscription to the New Yorker.
-- patita (muzee...), October 12th, 2006 10:04 AM. (later)

It pretty much describes how I feel about Seinfeld in 2006 (minus the New Yorker part). I loved this show madly, but in my view it isn't funny 85-90% of the times that it was in the 90's. Maybe it just hasn't aged well in my view.

researching ur life (grady), Friday, 13 October 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link

My guess is that this occurs within the first year of a subscription to the New Yorker

"year"

a portal to squee heaven (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 13 October 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

George is probly just the pure evil part of Larry, Jerry could therefore represent everything else.

I just fucking love George to bits. Jason Alexander has done a wonderful job of making such a spiteful hated little man into someone you can't take your eyes off watching.

Here's my list of favourite George moments:

Leaving his car parked in the Yankee stadium, to give the illusion to his superiors that he's working all hours.

His 'vertical leap' boast

his 'reverse parking' boast

his 'great parking space' boast, in the hospital visiting the new born babies parents "are you sure the baby wouldn't like to see the parking spot?"

pretending to be handicapped

Slipping the mickey into his bosses drink

cheating on his iq test by slipping his paper out the window to elaine

cheating on his latvian orthodox test, writing notes on his arm

again by writing crib notes on his arm, learning the 'move'

his answering machine, the whole episode George is avoiding his girlfriend because he thinks she wants to split up with him, he wants to take her to a works ball. his theory, if she can't find him, she can't break up with him.

eating the half eaten chocolate eclair out the bin.

taking his shirt off when he goes to the bathroom

When George and Susan are shopping for wedding invitations, the shop assistant brings out a huge catalogue and states "the more expensive ones are at the front". George grabs the catalogue and immediately flings it open from the back.

That whole Susan dieing episode, at the end. crazy

leaving a tape recording the Foundation meeting, due to paranoia that they're accusing him of killing Susan

The worlds collide episode, George losing it about Elaine wanting to be friends with Susan. Elaine rings up and George is reluctant to hand the phone over to Susan.

George persistantly trying to prevent the couple from stealing his idea about calling a child 'Seven', even to the point of badgering the mother when she's in labour. "I'm a friend of the mother, I'm having sex with her cousin"

Buying Elaine the damaged jumper, with the red dot on, because it was cheap

Walking out on a high note. George realises that once he's made a huge funny in his office meetings he just ends up saying something dumb soon after. So he develops a habit of just getting up and leaving after delivering a good joke. Particular funny when he performs this routine in Jerry's apartment.

pretending to look angry to create the illusion he's busy at work

reluctantly giving his debit card code out to save a mans life.

Georges 'man love' for Jerry.

Georges 'man crush' for Elaines 'cool' rush-junkie boyfriend.

wanting to appear to be the funniest member of the group for his new girlfriend, making jerry act depressed.

when he taunts the shackled prisoner guy in the magazine shop, "maybe I'll read it in the park tomorrow, it's supposed to be a beautiful day!"

His 'fire escape' involving knocking down old ladies and children to get out first. and then his amazing reasoning to everyone afterwards. Jerry's reaction in the coffee shop later "perhaps she'll see things differently once she's released from the burns unit".

The whole marriage thing, regretting it immediately and spending episode after episode trying to postpone it. "When are you getting married?", Susan: "June", George: "Late June"

When Jerry asks him to pretend he doesn't know him in The Race episode, they chat like they've just met after five years and George goes into lie overload. Ends up almost walking away without getting to the point of why they're lieing in the first place.

In the car dealer shop, George refuses to trust any of the salesmen and OMG it's just so fucking funny.


Jerry: "It's a perfect plan. So inspired. So devious. Yet so simple."
George: "This is what I do"

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, that last one is pure George gold, how they plan to do "the switch", right? That whole planning scene is brilliant.

Other George highlights:

"The sea was angry that day my friends... like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli" from The Marine Biologist.

"A simple joke, from a simple man," he tells Jerry in The Abstinence, in which he's turning into a genius because he's 'not getting any', and ponders the idea that maybe he should just never have sex again, 'maybe I can serve the world better this way'.

But the most brilliant, mindblowing George episode for me is The Opposite, when he finds his 'religion' in ignoring everything his instinct ever told him, and to do the opposite. "Hi... my name is George, I'm unemployed and I live with my parents."

Oh and Dr. Carl Sagan completely OTM, it keeps me going as well, I cannot get enough.

Gerard (Gerard), Friday, 13 October 2006 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

it's little exchanges like these that make George so great for me:

Jerry: "All right, you're on a desert island. You can bring five books. Which five do you take?"
George: "I gotta read five books?"
Jerry: "All right, one. Come on!"
George: "Oh, I got it. Three Musketeers."
Jerry: "You've read that?"
George: "No, I'm saving it for the island."
Jerry: "Let's start this whole thing over. Best Chamberlain: Wilt, Richard, or Neville?"
George: "For the desert island?"
Jerry: "OK."
George: "Richard."
Jerry: "You know, he was in The Three Musketeers."
George: "Exactly. Save me from having to read the book."

peter in montreal (spaces are allowed), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa I don't remember that at all, was it in the beginning credit sequence?(i started missing a lot of those in the later years)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i downloaded a lot of torrents and i think season 8 misses off most of the beginnings :(

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Another classic George moment is when he's hauling in the marble rye - the way he grabs the rod over his head as if he's pulling a marlin over the bow of a boat. Cracks me up every time.

shorty (shorty), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link


And the whole "The ocean called, they're running out of shrimp" back and forth with the insults, ending with him making a U-turn on the freeway and driving back to get in one more dig.

nickn (nickn), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Jerk store!

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

HIS WIFE IS IN A COMA!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 14 October 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmb6JeF0Yo

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks, I kept trying to remember what the insult was that prompted the "jerk store" retort but was too lazy to look it up.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

In spite of seing Seinfed as a dud currently, I always thought it was great how the finale was a big Kafka/Stranger reference.

researching ur life (grady), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I don't think I had previously seen the one where the jazz saxophonist busts his chops by going down on Elaine for too long, then can't play for his record label showcase. That's pretty amazing.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 22 January 2007 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
I wish the movie was him wearing that suit and not CG.

Abbott, Thursday, 17 May 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuHcNkLo8Ok

ian, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 04:33 (sixteen years ago) link

this kid's videos are an absolute goldmine of lols.

ian, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 04:39 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pkfPDPKfpg&feature=related

ian, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 04:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't lol till the end credits.

Alba, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 08:17 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rd7I0Q75o

Lolpez, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know what it has to do with Seinfeld but it sure is funky.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Seinfeld hate is insane. What else do you hate? Christmas? Batman? Love?

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 12:02 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there was a festivus set-up in DC when i was there this weekend.

ian, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

By all that is holy, Seinfeld should be entirely unwatchable. The acting is rather awful and overdrawn. The writing is peculiar, but hardly great. I still wonder why it is moderately amusing. I suspect it may have something to do with the strange medium of television, or else the cuteness of Elaine.

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Seinfeld succeeds because everyone secretly identifies with George.

ian, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"everyone"

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont identify with him as much as want to be him

choom gangsta (deej), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

everything else about seinfeld>>>>>>>cuteness of elaine

and I will admit, elaine is damn cute

sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

this might be another case of british vs. american tastes in humor.

ian, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the top rated british sitcoms of all time feature men in frilly shirts with stupid accents going all king george this, and fish and chips that. of curse they wouldn't get seinfeld

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Two nations divided by uncommon sitcoms?

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

the british seinfeld:

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

this was supposed to be the summer of george

omg grapeHOOS superman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Post-Arrested Development/It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia this show doesn't really grab me by the booboo like it once did.

"I Like My Hogen-Mogen" (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

One feels compelled to note the outstanding solo careers of all the principal actors after leaving this show. Bee Movie, anyone?

Aimless, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

in britain its the summer of king george

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link


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