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We had awesome foods yesterday: big ol' steaks, big big ol' baked potatoes, which I scooped out and mixed with bacon and cheese... you know, that potato bacon thing. Next time I'll cook the potatoes slower, though.

You made all that?

For you and Julia?

foie gras is in the "veal" category of cruel tactics for food.

let's no go there again

You made all that?

steak and potato is low on labor, high on quality of ingredients -- my kinda cooking

I just can't picture you eating anything besides takeout! (or s.t. her roomie makes, ha ha)

we eat takeout too often, it's true.

I also made Boca burgers... fried in bacon grease. Makes 'em so much better. :)

ha ha YoU WOULD!

i'm not trying to stir shit up but i do think that there are ethical lines crossed when it comes to food within the realm of eating meat. i'm not pointing my finger at anyone here it just seems like "in this day and age" there has to be a better way to get yer foie gras off. if you know what i mean.

you're not stirring anything up. it's just that we've been through this 10 times on 10 other threads.

how do you cook your steak, kenan? is that a grill thing or a stovetop thing or . . . ? I just realized that I have no idea how one would even go about cooking steak.

A grill would be premium, but in a plain skillet works, too. Medium-high heat, about 5-10 minutes on each side. Oooh... I should get an iron skillet. That would be better than steel and teflon.

I also made Boca burgers... fried in bacon grease. Makes 'em so much better. :)

Haha, I have totally done this.

Kelsey, I had that dinner with my stepmom and it did seem vaguely weird that she doesn't eat pork, because of keeping kosher, but is cool with foie gras.

Foie gras = a whole new kind of yum. I thought I had tried it before, but indeed I had not--only pates. "Meat butter" is totally OTM. Fucking delish in taste and texture.

Foie gras is from the goose which is "clean."

That is odd, Jordan. I'm puzzled by the eating habits of others. I'm sure my own would puzzle some as well.

Too bad we're not still in Chicago, Kenan. We have three cast iron skillets & really only use one regularly. It's pretty much the ideal Kelsey cooking situation. I love being able to turn the burner on & not worry about having things start smoking like crazy. I suspect I do not really know how to cook with a non-iron skillet anymore.

they're not expensive, are they? If they are, they shouldn't be. Simplest cookware there is.

I have 3 of varying sizes and I <3 them the mostest. Wish I had a good 12-inch nonstick pan, though.

I know it's technically kosher, but it still seems odd, given that kosher laws are basically about treating animals mercifully etc. (in addition to the "cleanliness" stuff).

I have good non-stick stuff, but I really need a big ol' cast-iron.

One of the things I'm most looking forward to about my impending move is cooking with a gas stove again!

Also, waaaaaaay xpost:

as far as my feminist take on superbad goes, i think jenny is spot on with a lot of what she was saying upthread. i think whenever i watch a movie like that (knocked up included), I tend to let my feminist thinking take a nap & just watch the movie & generally have a good time. i think apatow's relationship with "the vadge" is interesting & it's likely that he does fear it to a certain extent, but i wonder if it's more of the angle his movies tend to take. don't hetero dudes fear the vadge in that "what is it/i don't have one/what does one do with that thing/" kind of way? that's how i interpret the vadge fear in apatow's movies - view of inexperienced/clueless dude.

along similar lines, what really irks me are things like Zelda (which Leaf rented this weekend). The protaganist (who is you, the player) is a dude and EVERY SINGLE girl swoons over him. you score a wooden sword & the girls want you to show them how it works while they giggle over you. so irritating. who does that?

don't hetero dudes fear the vadge in that "what is it/i don't have one/what does one do with that thing/" kind of way?

Hahahaha no. Not this one, at least.

http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/stills/nes/zelda.gif

so hott

I mean before hetero dudes ever experience one. Isn't it this special thing?

I have real problems putting feminist sensibilities to sleep, altho apparently I can kill off all the other decency and kindness sensors at a moment's notice, judging by my sense of humor and continued association with JW. But yes, I was in Seattle last week. It was...not New York. Pretty, though.

you score a wooden sword & the girls want you to show them how it works

It was...not New York.

Few places are.

I dunno... they don't actually know what to do with it, no, not even in this movie. (Well, it seems like McLovin has the best idea of all of them... or the worst.) They're virgins. They fear women, sure, but I think a virginal high school boy who is simultaneously fascinated and terrified by women falls outside the definition of "misogyny." It's more like, "boy."

what was misogynistic about superbad though? i guess if i let my feminist sensibilities take a nap it was also rather easy to do so for this movie b/c it's about high school boys. i don't expect high school boys to have a developed sense of the world yet (or of themselves). i also watched it & thought that how seth & evan interacted is probably how a lot of high school boys act around each other.

also: who is JW?

Do women fear the wooden sword? No, they want to know how it works. Beware the silver sword, though. And the magic sword? TAKE FUCKING COVER

also again: i missed you, laurel. i revived the sewing thread & missed you there too.

i just realized what an awful example the wooden sword is. thank you, chicago.

what if i were to sub WS with slingshot?

To appease your sense of analogy and my sense of Zelda, go with boomerang.

Nick was playing some PS2 game for a while in which the lead male had to get the princess to come with him everywhere, but she apparently had problems and would just wander off and he'd have to go find her and drag her hand to get her to come along.

Ico?

Yes! Think so!

Hah, I was only making Zelda joeks, don't mind me.

I dunno, I haven't seen the movie, but when I was the age that I imagine the lead characters being I had pretty much gotten over most of the severe awkwardness and insanity that you guys describe. I credit lots of girl friends (both platonic and not), my upbringing, and my already marginalized social status for this. Also, and this may not make much sense, but my extended international jaunt to Australia and New Zealand incited a bit of quick growing up for me, I think.

xpost: video games are going to reveal a treasure trove of this kind of stuff

Thank you, Kelsey, I missed me too. And JW is he of the noize bored.

Video games are not good social barometers.

I'm with Dan re girl friends growing up, maybe even more so. I'm trying to think of if I even bonded with guys in high school.

i don't know how to talk out what's in my head today.

I didn't mean to imply that dudes are JUST like evan & seth were in the movie in real life or anything.

Of course not!

Yeah, most of my friends in high school were girls as well. Not that I didn't have any male friends (though a few of them were guys I met through theatre, and you know what that means lol), but I remember a couple of birthday parties junior and senior year when I was the only guy there.

OK, I have some memory of riding in someone's minivan in a parking lot in the middle of the night as the other guys took turns climbing on top and riding as the van did donuts in a parking lot, so I guess I did bond with guys.

But then I've got another memory of riding in a minivan with a bunch of girls singing along with Amy Grant.

<i>climbing on top and riding </i>

On the roof of the van, people, on the roof!