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Alison Graham doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. And Dom Passantino does.

Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Where are the standards of today, I ask you.

I don't have a Wikipedia entry either.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Thursday, 20:00
Radio Ha Ha

Radio 4 turns over the airwaves to solid gold laughter, as Steve Punt joins up with a host of stars, backstage movers and industry shakers from the comedy industry with a two-hour special.

Variety shows and radio were the traditional routes to comedy fame and fortune, but what about today? Super agents, DVD sales, straight-to-TV stars; where does radio fit in? Steve and a panel of guests pick apart the laughter seam of the modern comedy industry, as well as generating a few jokes along the way.

Includes News Summary at 9.00pm.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

In any given episode of "Extras", it could be 15% "brilliant", 25% "passable" and 60% "rubbish/obvious"...

like swimming in a cool sea and passing through a warm current, etc...

Where are the standards of today, I ask you.
I don't have a Wikipedia entry either.

-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...)

Oh, have I got one?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

you are diligently referenced on both j harris' and a petridis' though marcello.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

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Whew.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

before that little derail folks was talkin' about the public / critical reaction to extras s2. the critical raves so often feel like wishful thinking. wanting, needing to have that generation defining masterpiece happening on your watch. i have yet to meet anyone who regards extras as anything other than ok or entertaining.

also on the bad can someone please put Have I Got News For You out of its misery.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

At the risk of inviting hate mail, I'd argue that Gervais and Merchant's second sitcom is, objectively, a patchy programme.

At the risk of, on this reviewer's logic, inviting lynch-mobs to my door, I'd argue that Extras was shite.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Radio Ha Ha is great. I was fooled by it the first time.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

sometimes writers employ rhetorical devices.

xpost

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, i'm thinking of that other thing on radio 4. carry on. xpost

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: Yes, but I still think the sentence panders unnecessarily towards Extras when it can really go for the kill instead.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

'This week: Worzel says all reggae is vile.' thread actually linked to from John Harris wikipedia!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

A handful of contributors to the I Love Music boards have strongly attacked what they as a thread of covert racism in some of his work

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

david quantick wrote a book about chris rock?

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY QUIZZICALLY PURSED LIPS?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

to get off the hate and link to Quantick... TV Burp is back on Saturday! woo! Harry on this year's CBB should be a joy.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

for reference or summat from the green wing thread:

To put things into context: Harry Hill aside, all British TV Comedy right now is total shit.

-- Ruairi Wirewool (horseproduction...), January 15th, 2007. (Ruairi Wirewool) (later)


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what were the chances of that happening?
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), January 15th, 2007. (mark grout) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
Frankly, now that GW has been and gone, I'm inclined to agree with Ruairi, minus the bit about Harry Hill.

-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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If you can put CT and Green Wing on a par, you truly show a lack of discernment IMO.
no it's just a 'higher' (or rather 'stricter') level of discernment.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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'the thick of it' will be back, later in the year, and so will 'peep show'.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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but in a another more accurate sense...
-- mark s (mar...), January 15th, 2007. (mark s) (later)


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but then i do like Harry Hill so it's apples and roundabouts.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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rubbish
-- RJG (RJ...), January 15th, 2007. (RJG) (later)


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so you keep saying
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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RJG's TV Burp
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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Hmm. I was only talking about currently-running comedy shows. If Peep Show returns for a fourth bite at the cherry (and TTOI for a second), I will only be too delighted. Of course, the one I'm really looking out for is Nathan Barley II.
-- You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (papiermachealamphibia...), January 15th, 2007. (Haberdager) (later)


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i think it would be a big ask for there to be a 'great' uk comedy series to be running all 52 weeks of the year. i have low standards perhaps; but i don't ask for a 'great' film each month either.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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of course i too want 'nathan barley' back.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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They could drop scissors on a dog's head this time.
-- Dom Passantino (juror...), January 15th, 2007. (Dom Passantino) (later)


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uh, rose-tinted view there i reckon - but at least it was generating interesting discussion.
one episode of Screen Wipe a month would be good. ditto TV Burp.

-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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ha ha Dom OTM
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)


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as with 'green wing', take away the hype and the expectation it'll live up to 'the day today' and 'nathan barley' was 23 minutes well-spent. i lolled anyway.
-- the original hauntology blogging crew (miltonpinsk...), January 15th, 2007. (Enrique) (later)


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i didn't laugh more than i did laugh etc.
-- vita susicivus (n...), January 15th, 2007. (blueski) (later)

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

We're, what, 18 months away from NB now? Can we work out why it was so bad and so hated yet?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

we already did!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

like, 5 minutes after the end credits!

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm talking about THE BENEFIT OF DISTANCE AND HINDSIGHT

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Charlie Brooker's Monday G2 column is weird because you can see the video game journalist in him threatening to break through at any moment. qf the Geoff Capes gag in today's etc.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis you seem to be assuming that the guy from the Indie actually thinks Extras is shite, which isn't what he's saying. Something can be patchy and still have plenty of redeeming features overall

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

It wasn't bad. It was funny, well-drawn and turn-itself-inside-out clever, not to mention superbly casted and acted. It needs re-watching cos it skips from one idea to the next so quick, but yeh, it's awesome.

And Screen Wipe rocks.

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Brooker should start doing his columns in cartoon strip form, like those ads for some gaming shop or other that were always in Gamesmaster magazine

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

ok 'nathan barley' in the oh-7: that corner of east london had probably lost its edge well before 2005, but now it feels even less edgy. the kind of magazine the show is lampooning is long gone. i have even forgotten the name of that sleazenation guy the guardian hired. but there were some very good throwaway gags.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

the IT crowd was about 300 times better than nathan barley if we're talking post being any good chris morris.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

i know a person who knows the redhead, from that.

it was good, but not 300 times better than 'nathan barley'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

30 times?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

IT Crowd would've been a lot better without the Irish guy.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

no. i actually disagree that it's better, but even if i dodn't i wouldn't say more than 1.5 times.

xpost

steve otm

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

it had jokes and didn't feel like an attempt to make a big insightful statement about something. nathan barley missed so many targets, pulled so many punches and generally got the tone wrong (we should HATE NB) that for me at least its glaring faults overrid any of it's mildly amusing qualities.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

well this was the thing, we weren't entirely supposed to hate nathan barley.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you sure that's not just because they fucked up the characterisation?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

oh he was hateable enough but his foil dan ashcroft, ie the viewers, was not much better. and i guess you can hate someone and be jealous of them.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

if you don't hate him what's the point? the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff. in the tv show he's just bloke in a silly hat who says daft things. how are we supposed to give a shit about might boosh man if all he's supposedly kicking against are people who are a bit silly? they could have created a proper comedy monster but it was just nothing.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

the original tv go home columns had him (or maybe it was his frineds) getting blowjobs from underage hookers and stuff.

this happened in the show except he thought she turned out not be under-age (at which point NB thinking it now okay to pretend she WAS under-age was actually quite a clever little point about...something or other).

i did hate NB but yes no less than anyone else around him.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

no more, rather

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought that was kinda the idea, that NB was a harmless berk, mooching around London and getting into scrapes like a coked up Shaggy, and DA (because of his own self-loathing) decides to not sort himself out, but instead write columns about how idiotic the rest of the world is.

Actually, scratch that, that's not the idea at all. It's funny caricatures falling into situations and scrambling to return to the status quo whilst simultaneously being trapped; a very old-fashioned sitcom thread. I certainly didn't feel that is was trying to make a big insightful statement about something, at least, nothing larger than "it's better to like something than to dislike something."

Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the barley getting a bj ep was better than any 'it crowd'.

'THIR-FUCKING-TEEN'.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Acrobat OTM.
In TV Go Home, 'Cunt' was unbridled misanthropy. 'Nathan Barley' gave us a guy who was a bit of a tool. You could forgive Barley being sympathetic if it was an entirely naturalistic piece, but the tone was so inconsistent.

In fairness, I guess originally Barley wasn't really a character, just a cipher, and in making him human Morriss and Brooker made him more, er, human. I just don't think that made for great comedy. It wasn't sharp enough to be genuine satire and it wasn't silly enough to be knockabout comedy. It was just 'dark'.

Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

on a thread that started with a load of gervais bashing... Barley should have been presented more like david brent. deluded, egotistical, actually unpleasant but whom we might in the end feel some sympathy for. all the "idiots" seemed nice, there was so sense of infighting or bitchiness which seemed wrong to me. also they could have had some more funny lines.

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

So was the "nicening" of NB down to Brooker, Morris, or Channel 4 themselves?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

what do YOU think?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link

'Cunt' was very funny in TVGH, on the whole, but a half-hour show on actual telly where he actually did those things would have probably been a bit shit to say the least

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I've just rememberd Baddiel's Syndrome again.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

lost classic?

acrobat (elwisty), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

certainly one of those two

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Should have been 30 minutes each week of David Baddiel pointing out who people look like.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Tim Vine has a recurring role in Lee Macks's sitcom Not Going Out, which imo is as close as UK comedy gets to its own According To Jim.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 September 2024 19:56 (three weeks ago) link

We just watched season six - the last of the old seasons we hadn't watched (we only got into the show during lockdown and had been watching the previous seasons in order of a blog my partner found that rated them), and I don't know if it's because the most recent season was such a drag but I really enjoyed it - Asim Chaudry was a great contestant, I really liked Tim Vine, the two young ones were mostly rubbish (esp Russell Howard, who was uniformly unfunny and seemed to simply want to assert he was a 'proper' 'bloke' in each task), and Liza Tarbuck was a manic, mischievous energy I very much appreciated. Not peak TM by a long-run, but still fairly strong I thought.

Excited for the new series, though.

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 07:44 (three weeks ago) link

Russell Howard, “one of the world's top comedians” (Sunday Times)

Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 6 September 2024 08:15 (three weeks ago) link

A mate of mine worked for Deliveroo a while and delivered food to Russel Howard. He didn't tip.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:22 (three weeks ago) link

Alice is very pretty but alas has a politics podcast with Matt Forde so is indefensible.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:24 (three weeks ago) link

I rewatched all the serieses last year and concluded that Alice Levine is the least standout contestant they've ever had (is this what the young people call "mid"?). She's not super competent or incompetent or funny or anything, really. I'm sure she's a perfectly nice person.

I have to say, I love Tim Vine. I've been to see him a few times at the Fringe, and have laughed very hard at all his very stupid jokes. He's just excellent at what he does. I can see how not everyone could like what he does, however.

trishyb, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:35 (three weeks ago) link

he should do a politics podcast with jeremy vine

conrad, Friday, 6 September 2024 09:42 (three weeks ago) link

TM made me finally explore Tim Vine's standup stuff, and his brilliance at the dad-joke made me suspect if I ever caught a show of his I mighth legit die laughing - he tickles a spot within 49-yo me that only Harry Hill previously reached. Alice might have had potential but she was absolutely scuttled by being teamed-up with Russell Howard in every team task.

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 09:50 (three weeks ago) link

Don't understand Alice Levine's appeal at all, much less how she spent nearly 10 years at Radio 1 including a stint in the Peel slot.

This series of Taskmaster New Zealand failed to deliver, despite Abby Howells delivering probably the greatest ever prize task item, first up in the first episode. I suppose it was always going to be downhill from there, but it actually felt a lot like S12 UK with all the contestants being generally competent and rarely outstandingly funny.

Overtoun House windows (aldo), Friday, 6 September 2024 10:17 (three weeks ago) link

S12 UK was great! Desree! Guz!! Morganna!!!

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:00 (three weeks ago) link

Hmm, I just remember it as Alan Davies and VCM being able but not really funny. I thought Morgana was great but stood out in a shallow pool.

Overtoun House windows (aldo), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:08 (three weeks ago) link

> Liza Tarbuck was a manic, mischievous energy

the thing i remember most about her in this series was her just stomping something into the ground.

koogs, Friday, 6 September 2024 11:18 (three weeks ago) link

The thing where she gets Alex to plant his naked arse into a cake

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:22 (three weeks ago) link

That's what I won't forget

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:22 (three weeks ago) link

Anyway, this show is remarkable in how it's redeemed a whole slew of what I imagined were low-table DAVE panel-show dullards and proved they are actually very very very funny (tbh I watch no panel shows beyond WILTY). The TM magic failed with Russell, however.

nabisco poppins (stevie), Friday, 6 September 2024 11:23 (three weeks ago) link

Very few people can't be redeemed by Taskmaster, so it's quite an achievement for Russell Howard to be as bad at this as he is at everything else.

Do you guys get to see the New Year one-off specials? There's some real gold in there too - Rylan Clark and Kojey Radical and Shirley Ballas should really have done a whole series.

ailsa, Friday, 6 September 2024 11:54 (three weeks ago) link

I liked Alan Davies a whole lot more than VCM on their series. And I concur that it's probably possible to die laughing at Tim Vine's stand up. He's the absolute GOAT at his format.

ailsa, Friday, 6 September 2024 11:56 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah Kojey was great.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 September 2024 12:32 (three weeks ago) link

i thought it was time for a dedicated taskmaster thread: a thread for Taskmaster

na (NA), Thursday, 12 September 2024 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

I’m in!

nabisco poppins (stevie), Thursday, 12 September 2024 22:42 (two weeks ago) link

catching up with Colin from Accounts and it's pretty good, albeit without much Colin. episode 5, the Brisket episode, especially good.

they were on Front Row tallking about it and it gave it a bit more context. all those jokes about being married, all the age difference jokes, the odd phrase here and there (Dame Edna, sleak brown dog...) all from life.

koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 17:21 (three days ago) link

and Ludwig starts tonight, him from everything and her from everything, comedy detective show. i will give it a go but it's on bbc1

koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 17:22 (three days ago) link

Love Colin, tho heart sank as everything went tits-up in the final ep (hoping there's a s3 to make it all good again). the episode in the resto with her mate's awful gf was excellent. it's a sharp and warm romcom but - and this is key - it also has a line or a joke or a setpiece every episode - and indeed, often several - than genuinely has me LOLing.

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:20 (three days ago) link

Still not clear if the couple also partook of the drug party in that one episode and I think they purposefully kept it vague

Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:21 (three days ago) link

and Ludwig starts tonight, him from everything and her from everything, comedy detective show. i will give it a go but it's on bbc1

― koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2024 18:22 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Watched ten minutes of this and couldn't be bothered with continuing, not enjoyable or interesting on any level.

John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 September 2024 20:51 (two days ago) link

As someone who likes wry, silly, murder mysteries based around puzzles, and Mark Corrigan trying to wing it in fish-out-of-water situations, and Anna MM being a bit sarcastic, this in theory is right up my street. Unfortunately the "case of the week" aren't fun puzzles you can work out (yet) and you don't see any of the 'main' puzzle. So it's more for people who like the idea of puzzles but not actually doing them. I'll watch them all though I guess.

Really like Colin From Accounts. Altho - did I miss something with Meggles and who she was with then wasn't? And the Rumi character at the dinner was amazing!

kinder, Thursday, 26 September 2024 22:45 (two days ago) link


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