Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Scone? Damn you autocorrect. Second.

how was that different to what happened here?

Spacey wacey.

I am turning into Matthew out of Sunday Heroes I think - "No, not aaah".

Anyway, I scone viewed it as well and while I didn't enjoy it as much it was still pretty good. As I hinted up there without being spoilery, this was all revealed on Blue Peter on Thursday - the console was a competition winner from back in the Rusty era, and they showed the toy that's going on sale. Someone on OG speculated exactly the Junkyard TARDIS from one of the first promo shots of this episode, which does show that guesses are sometimes pretty damn spoilery too.

Rose's "soul" was still in there, I guess, whereas Idris was just an empty vessel. Also Rose harnessed the powers of the time vortex which is maybe different from the powers of the Tardis, the living thing itself.

I enjoyed this episode a lot - though it does quash my theory that River was a personification of the Tardis.

Have barely read or seen any Gaiman, but I thought this was pretty good and did enjoy what I guess were some of the more Gaiman-like aspects - the junkyard planet and the castaways, Uncle in particular (credit to the actor there too of course). Tardis personification also grebt, much better than whatever happened to Rose, which I can barely remember anyway, also A+ Rory and Amy lost in corridors headfuck. Can't really think of anything I didn't like about it in fact. Definitely digging the new scariness in this season.

how was that different to what happened here?

Spacey wacey.

Continuity-wuity more like.

agree with most of Matt's criticism (esp. the pace + too many big ideas in too small a space OMG LIKE AN ACTUAL TARDIS) but was watching it at 4am quite drunk so must rewatch - thought it was pretty cool anyway despite the "wife" thing being inevitably ultra lame bait.

Idris/actress was excellent, also made the Bonham-Carter connection (via some other actually tenuous Gaiman/Burton comparisons). didn't see the point of the Ood (nor the old control room scene really...tho made me wonder the old control rooms would look on digital film as opposed to the video of the past) and also agree that the TARDIS corridors were strangely grim (but necessarily so in this case i guess). great dialogue throughout tho.

Ood qua Ood: Gaiman wrote a new alium but they'd run out of money to make new pointy ears.

wild ood entry

Michael Sheen was the voice of House?

How long is it going to take for the Doctor to twig that you can tell if it's a good Ood or an evil Ood by looking at the colour of its eyes?

This one still had good green eyes though

Also Amy really shines with Rory, huh?

I thought the good ones had blue eyes?

I don't see any Amy/Rory chemistry. Don't see what Rory has to offer at all tbh. Sorry, Rory.

he waits, that's what he does.

I thought it was green vs red

more "importantly", why they all wear the same worker outfit from The Impossible Planet?

oh duh, Ood had green eyes because House was green

also: uh

http://www.examiner.com/doctor-who-in-national/doctor-who-recap-review-the-doctor-s-wife-review

That poor girl. Her parents named her Acquanetta.

She could have changed it

Don't see what Rory has to offer at all tbh. Sorry, Rory.

I agree, I don't get Rory at all. The character's likeable in a "that bloke seems quite nice" sort of way but he's not at all interesting or charismatic. He gets plot functions and dies six times a week but otherwise he's just a third wheel.

Rory is utterly pointless. New assistant please.

What's especially annoying is that Darvill is at least three times as likeable in interviews, which makes me think the character is probably not a good fit for him.

Your spot on there. He seems an affable chap. What purpose does the Rory character have?

Eliminates the RTD-style Doctor/companion love interest thing.

Arthur Darvill's the RADA grad in the room and is doing Mephistopheles in Doctor Faustus later in the year. I don't think this sub-Lyndhurst dweeb we're currently seeing is where the character of Rory will end up (he did the whole 'going mental' thing v. v. well).

agh, what I'm trying to say is Moffffffffffffffeeettttttttttttttttttttttttt wants to indicate pretty strongly that his show will not create any sort of emo love affair b/n the Doctor and Amy and that Rory is the clearest manifestation of that xp

lol at "sub-Lyndhurst"

I for one do not approve of an emo love affair b/n the Doctor and anybody. It is a shame that Rory couldn't have had more depth.
I doubt he'll develop into a raging crazy all powerful Rory-Tron 3000. He'll probably just wimper in the corner like he normally does. Or die.

Rory's been ok in Moffat's own eps where he tends to get both funnier lines and more to do. Plus the constant dying is starting to get funny now.

And the bit where aged Rory is all "You always leave me!" was pretty sad and alarming

Just realised that Suranne Jones, who played the TARDIS Idris, was also the actress in 'Single Father' with Tennant last year, in which she was also rather excellent

I wonder if Moffatt ever saw the thing Lawrence Miles did in the books with the humanoid TARDISes

Now I'm wondering if Gaiman saw the thing Lawrence Miles did in the BBC books with the humanoid TARDISes

oh hai it's me, the one who said last year was worse than syphilis. I just watched the Vincent van Gogh episode and bawled for 10 mins straight.

:D

I think maybe Moffatt's a fan of the Doctor-Sarah Jane-Harry season but Rory's there to fill the walk-around-looking-bewildered role. For one thing, given that Amy knows the Doctor is going to die there needs to be a co-conspirator onboard to stop her just blurting it out. I get the feeling he's being lined up for something later in the series.

Constantly dying is starting to bring the lolz though.

The bloke who does the Guardian Who-blog suspects Rory is being lined up for something too. And even if he isn't, surely fathering the time-babby is enough? Being a kids show, you couldn't have Amy getting preggers from a one night stand with some random soldier/timelord/alien, lest the Daily Mail blow a gasket. I think the dynamic between the three is getting more interesting, what with the big secret, their own marriage (loved the bunk bed gag) and their Tardis corridor drama.

yes yes its Threadless but this is pretty cute

http://media.threadless.com//imgs/products/2899/636x460design_01.jpg

Finally the Ga'Hoole/Dr Who fan mashup I have been craving.

Dr. Whooot

Hopefully, like the Ga'Hoole movie, this season's climax involves Matt Smith flying in slow motion with a bucket of molten steel while Dead Can Dance plays.

http://isamypregnant.com/

ok I laughed way too hard at that

"To see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor's home planet."

Just caught a bit of Satan Pit on Watch - a meh episode that doesn't hold up at all well. Waste of a (visually) good monster.

I dont think this has been posted: Doctor Who credits in the style of Buffy The Vampire Slayer :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiMCMWp4bw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Thought that was terrific and genuinely creepy. I have soft spot for "idiot humans let down the Doctors moral universe" episodes. I suppose it raises the possibility of the Doctor we saw dying being the ganger though.

thought the whole 'clones running an industrial facility then getting upset about being clones' thing was a great idea, perhaps someone should make a film w/that premise

That was really good. More like old school Doctor with its 'trapped in a scary castle' setting. Relatively low budget too, so relies on some good old fashioned scares. Benefitted from the two part treatment too - not too frantic, with the bit part characters given a chance to develop. Good SF premise too. The Doctor fighting his doppleganger has the potential to be a bit naff, but hopefully they'll pull it off. Could the doppleganger be the Doctor who dies? Or maybe that's a bit too obvious, not to mention rather early a reveal.

Doctor Who credits in the style of Buffy The Vampire Slayer :D

amazed at how much I like this!

More like old school Doctor with its 'trapped in a scary castle' setting.

Yeah, I've been non-spoily teasing people this week saying how classic-70s Who it felt. A spooky castle! A small team in a base under siege! Horror elements! The threat is from within! And a cliffhanger!

I don't think the ganger is going to turn out to be the Doctor that dies - a simple plastic Doctor wouldn't regenerate - but they're definitely planting piles and piles of references, hints and red herrings about deaths, resurrections and alternate bodies through the year to make us wonder and have fun speculating on how it's going to go down. I really loved the downcast Rory, now used to karking it most every episode, saying "Welcome to my world" in response to the pretty girl's fear of dying.