Mystery Science Theater 3000: C/D, S/D.

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"Mobsters laughin', really smilin', a man selling herion..."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:02 (twenty years ago) link

I've always wondered about that reference, what's the exact song they're riffing on?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

"The director's vision: lots of shots of things."

Or: "Now here the director's beginning to lose control of his film. This is characteristic of many young directors: too many ideas. Or, in this case... none at all."

I use this one all the time.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

Y'know. MST3K could use a "parsing" thread like the Christgau one.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

"Taster's Choice, the final chapter."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

I've always wondered about that reference, what's the exact song they're riffing on?

It's Chicago's "Saturday in the Park."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

"You said 'bowling ball' earlier -- what was that about?"

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

"DON'T. EVER. STEP. ON. MY. LINES. KID."

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:07 (twenty years ago) link

It's Chicago's "Saturday in the Park."

Thank you! One mystery less. :-)

"Buzz off."
"Huh?"
"Buzz off, HUH!"
"No you buzz off!"
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

(That exchange was also of course the source of the 'tonight on Crossfire' reference I used a little while ago on a Fiddo/Aja exchange.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:10 (twenty years ago) link

BABY OIL?!?!?! ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:17 (twenty years ago) link

"...what would your momma say?"
"She'd say, 'He's not mine! You can't prove it!'"

"I dunno. You got an airbrush on ya?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

"its a wet TEACHER contest"

Pablo Cruise (chaki), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

"We've never heard such great disco."

"The whole building just lost on Price is Right."

"My period!"

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago) link

"We've never heard such great disco."

Ah, not quite -- it was the even better/more telling 'seen' rather than 'heard.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck. I'm the type to have my day ruined by a not-quite-right MST3K reference (of course, I'm probably ruined well into February from this thread)... good thing I'm minutes from bedtime.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:15 (twenty years ago) link

Manos.
Hands of Fate.
That's all.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:15 (twenty years ago) link

"Do you have any idea how you were framin' back there?"

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

"...the *haunting* Torgo theme."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link

can anyone give me an episode ID for the following:

"Now let's get those clothes off!"

That line has haunted me for years, in a comic sort of way.

Aaron A., Monday, 12 January 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link

"Now finish the job!"

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 January 2004 07:19 (twenty years ago) link

"Oh look, they arrested Harlan Ellison!"
"Good."

nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link

"reynolds wrap: keeps freshness in, can't keep mitchell out."

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

"I'll take Larry Czonka's breath away..."

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

That episode is laden with almost too much goodness.

"Time to settle in with the Book of Mormon."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

I'm late for my ice dancing lessons.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

"Joel...the human body."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

*singing* "Sixteen men on a dead Dodge Dart!"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

I watched Manos yesterday. My favorite line was (and I'm doing this from memory): "Every shot of this movie looks like the last known photograph of someone."

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

One of my faves too, that one.

"It's the DEVIL and it's FUN!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

A detailed report on that comedy thing Bill, Kevin and Mike were at. Sounds like it was a blast and a half (and it's always strange seeing photos of Bill without Brain Guy makeup).

News of Interest reported there:

Is it true that each writer had a "specialty" area, one for pop culture, one for sports, etc.? "Not really," said Bill, "although if we needed to know something about sports, we would go to Paul Schersten." Added Mike, "And if we needed to know something about obscure vaudevillian actors, we'd ask Frank. He was our 'go to guy' for vaudeville."

When asked if they had indeed heard from any angry actors or filmmakers, the inevitable shouting of "Joe Don Baker!" was heard from the audience. "We're not worried about Joe Don," replied Bill, "we can easily outrun him. Or should that be out-fast walk him?"

"I've got one thing to say to Joe Don," added Kevin, "Go ahead on." Kevin also mentioned that they had received an extremely angry letter from Gremlins director Joe Dante after they gave the MST treatment to Marooned, aka SPACE TRAVELLERS. "It's supposed to be some kind of monumentally epic tribute to Sixties space travel," said Mike. "Let me tell you something. It's not."

...

Questions were then taken from the audience. While nothing new was asked, there was one surreal moment when a woman angrily demanded to know why THE FINAL SACRIFICE was MSTed. It turned out she was Canadian, and actually liked the film. "Why?" asked Mike. "Because of its accurate portrayal of life in Canada?"

After the audience Q&A, the Sklar brothers wrapped things up by asking if there were any upcoming projects in the works. It turns out there are several. After the April 20th DVD release of Reefer Madness, Mike will be contributing audio commentary to the DVD of Carnival of Souls. Also, all three are in discussions to provide commentary for upcoming Three Stooges DVDs, and they're also all working together on a book about, naturally enough, the state of bad movies today.

Meantime, the Satellite News site sez a new DVD box set in March with Mike and Kevin both adding commentary. I liked Mike's brief bits on Vol. 4 so this could be fun. No word on what episodes in particular.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 05:26 (twenty years ago) link

a new DVD box set in March with Mike and Kevin both adding commentary

So meta I might have to watch it in mute.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 January 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno if they actually mean DVD-style commentary or the brief introductions that Mike gave on the previous set -- I sorta assume the latter.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:00 (twenty years ago) link

Hope "Hobgoblins" is on it. Or "Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders". I've always wanted to see "Attack of the Eye Creatures" on DVD as well.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:11 (twenty years ago) link

Something tells me this might be another exclusively Sci-Fi Channel box. I can't remember where I read it, but I seem to recall someone saying that basically all the Comedy Central episodes that had legal clearance to put out on home video have all been released already.(Can't imagine who would be sitting on the rights to some of those titles, though.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago) link

Well the thing with the Comedy Channel ones is that they had all been released by Rhino anyway on VHS, so in effect what happened was a porting over of everything (there's still one that hasn't been, The Gunfighter). It's likely though that indeed no more legal clearances have been/could be arranged -- and my further guess is that since MST3K has turned out to provide a reasonable enough profit for Rhino [they've been among the company's regular top selling DVDs for a couple of years now] that various rights holders could be holding out for more cash in some cases as well.

I have no problem with more SciFi era stuff, but a box covering the shortened season seven -- say Night of the Blood Beast, Deathstalker, Escape 2000 and Laserblast if it could only be four movies -- would be spiff.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:21 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, info on the fifth box set is out, from mst3kinfo.com:

Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection Volume 5
We have more information about Volume 5 of Rhino Home Video's "Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection" series. The release date is March 9th. It will feature episodes 821- TIME CHASERS, 908- THE TOUCH OF SATAN, 1003- MERLIN'S SHOP OF MYSTICAL WONDERS and 1006- BOGGY CREEK II.


Special features on the set will include introductions by Mike Nelson (similar to those in the last set, but Mike tells us they will be somewhat longer), full-length interviews with Mike and Kevin Murphy, and the original trailer for "The Touch Of Satan."


Before you ask: Based on our conversations with our source at Rhino we don't think the contents of this list should be read as an indication that it's only Sci-Fi Channel episodes from this point on. Our source asked us which episodes fans would like to see next, and we referred him to the poll we conducted a couple of years ago, the result of which are posted HERE.


As soon as we know more about what's next from Rhino, we'll be sure to pass it on.

(In somewhat related news, the TV shows Freaks and Geeks and Invader Zim, both of which had MST vets working on them -- Josh, Trace and Joel on the first, Frank on the second -- are also coming to DVD.)

Also a reminder that the screening of The Screaming Skull coming up this Saturday morning is it, the final broadcast.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link

Man I was very interested in that Chris Fujiwara article. I used to watch this show a lot and it was very funny. The Joel stuff was my favorite but the Mike stuff was not bad either. Pod People and Laserblast were particularly memorable. Haven't had a chance to watch it in years tho, except for the movie which I did not appreciate very much. But the article articulated some of the stuff that bugged me about the show. There is inherent smugness in using such easy targets- sort of Wierd Al style- and I hate the dumb-downedness of calling things bad just because they are cheap or "unrealistic" and that reinforces dull movie realism conventions. I think the point is especially well made when he criticizes the MST3K movie guide book for having a shallow plot-synopsis style. It reminds me of how I used to sneer at my brother for reading the Blockbuster Video movie guide- it had a two sentance synopsis, 1-4 star rating, that's it. I was like "Christ man you will never learn to appreciate a movie unless you know HOW and WHY it was made." Director's body of work, credits of the main craftspeople like the art director, cinematograper or scriptwriter, even schools they came from etc. Without that stuff sometimes taste in movies degenerates to a kind of high school jock attitude. I love John Waters and nobody had better tell me he's not an artist. Well, anyways MST3K is usually pretty good so I believe I need to get some more of it again.

sucka (sucka), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

But the article articulated some of the stuff that bugged me about the show. There is inherent smugness in using such easy targets

The biggest problem, however, is that HE wanted his own easy targets mocked without recourse to the realities of film licensing and TV broadcast, and the costs involved, which would have made it possible (and more than that -- the various cast members have spoken many times about how many different big budget/more modern idiocies they would have loved to have done). Which in turn makes him look like an uninformed twit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

Seeing them do Battlefield earth would have been awesome.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link

:-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

So sad that this week MST3K officially goes off the airwaves for, one presumes, ever.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

Until Ned gets his own channel.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
OK, so I downloaded the MST3K movie recently, because I thought it would be nice to have a digital copy, and it turns out it was a GERMAN version. In GERMAN. DUBBED. This is madness!

They did a pretty good job although I'm not sure I liked Gypsy's voice done with an actual female type voice.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

Creative reinterpretation, sir.

A recent article by Mary Jo Pehl, short but funny. And Kevin Murphy's irregular pieces on NPR have been great!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 February 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Meanwhile, a striking and in-depth interview with Mike, nothing to do with MST3K and much more about himself and his beliefs and takes on things, which I find very valuable. He discusses his Christianity in detail, as well as a love for Paul Johnson's Modern Times (I remember reading that in high school at the behest of a history teacher who didn't agree with Johnson at all but wisely felt that it was good training to read and understand what other points of view are like), particular classical music recommendations and some interesting political conclusions. I have to say, it's interesting realizing more and more with time that, much like my apprecation of Tolkien, my own love for Mike's work certainly doesn't equate down the line with personal beliefs of his -- but that this doesn't diminish said love at all.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

Christian apologists OK (I mean in theory, I haven't read any); Modern Times ew.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

i'm kinda disappointed he chose tom wolfe over hunter thompson.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

Modern Times ew.

It's been forever since I read it -- but it was certainly pretty crusty.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

Not merely crusty, but I'm thinking his impossibly lazy stringing together of relativity and relativism...like, dude, no. That's so not how it works, OK? Don't even try.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link

Oh really? Hilarious...but actually, yeah, I dimly remember something like that from the beginning of the book. Hm, how very grad school.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link


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