― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
"Now let's get those clothes off!"
That line has haunted me for years, in a comic sort of way.
― Aaron A., Monday, 12 January 2004 06:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 January 2004 07:19 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link
― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 12 January 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link
"Time to settle in with the Book of Mormon."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 12 January 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link
"It's the DEVIL and it's FUN!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 02:40 (twenty years ago) link
News of Interest reported there:
Is it true that each writer had a "specialty" area, one for pop culture, one for sports, etc.? "Not really," said Bill, "although if we needed to know something about sports, we would go to Paul Schersten." Added Mike, "And if we needed to know something about obscure vaudevillian actors, we'd ask Frank. He was our 'go to guy' for vaudeville."
When asked if they had indeed heard from any angry actors or filmmakers, the inevitable shouting of "Joe Don Baker!" was heard from the audience. "We're not worried about Joe Don," replied Bill, "we can easily outrun him. Or should that be out-fast walk him?" "I've got one thing to say to Joe Don," added Kevin, "Go ahead on." Kevin also mentioned that they had received an extremely angry letter from Gremlins director Joe Dante after they gave the MST treatment to Marooned, aka SPACE TRAVELLERS. "It's supposed to be some kind of monumentally epic tribute to Sixties space travel," said Mike. "Let me tell you something. It's not."
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Questions were then taken from the audience. While nothing new was asked, there was one surreal moment when a woman angrily demanded to know why THE FINAL SACRIFICE was MSTed. It turned out she was Canadian, and actually liked the film. "Why?" asked Mike. "Because of its accurate portrayal of life in Canada?" After the audience Q&A, the Sklar brothers wrapped things up by asking if there were any upcoming projects in the works. It turns out there are several. After the April 20th DVD release of Reefer Madness, Mike will be contributing audio commentary to the DVD of Carnival of Souls. Also, all three are in discussions to provide commentary for upcoming Three Stooges DVDs, and they're also all working together on a book about, naturally enough, the state of bad movies today.
Meantime, the Satellite News site sez a new DVD box set in March with Mike and Kevin both adding commentary. I liked Mike's brief bits on Vol. 4 so this could be fun. No word on what episodes in particular.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 05:26 (twenty years ago) link
So meta I might have to watch it in mute.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 January 2004 05:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:00 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago) link
I have no problem with more SciFi era stuff, but a box covering the shortened season seven -- say Night of the Blood Beast, Deathstalker, Escape 2000 and Laserblast if it could only be four movies -- would be spiff.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 January 2004 06:21 (twenty years ago) link
Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection Volume 5 We have more information about Volume 5 of Rhino Home Video's "Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection" series. The release date is March 9th. It will feature episodes 821- TIME CHASERS, 908- THE TOUCH OF SATAN, 1003- MERLIN'S SHOP OF MYSTICAL WONDERS and 1006- BOGGY CREEK II.
Special features on the set will include introductions by Mike Nelson (similar to those in the last set, but Mike tells us they will be somewhat longer), full-length interviews with Mike and Kevin Murphy, and the original trailer for "The Touch Of Satan."
Before you ask: Based on our conversations with our source at Rhino we don't think the contents of this list should be read as an indication that it's only Sci-Fi Channel episodes from this point on. Our source asked us which episodes fans would like to see next, and we referred him to the poll we conducted a couple of years ago, the result of which are posted HERE.
As soon as we know more about what's next from Rhino, we'll be sure to pass it on.
(In somewhat related news, the TV shows Freaks and Geeks and Invader Zim, both of which had MST vets working on them -- Josh, Trace and Joel on the first, Frank on the second -- are also coming to DVD.)
Also a reminder that the screening of The Screaming Skull coming up this Saturday morning is it, the final broadcast.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 18:18 (twenty years ago) link
― sucka (sucka), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link
The biggest problem, however, is that HE wanted his own easy targets mocked without recourse to the realities of film licensing and TV broadcast, and the costs involved, which would have made it possible (and more than that -- the various cast members have spoken many times about how many different big budget/more modern idiocies they would have loved to have done). Which in turn makes him look like an uninformed twit.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 21:47 (twenty years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 January 2004 22:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 25 January 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link
― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:04 (twenty years ago) link
They did a pretty good job although I'm not sure I liked Gypsy's voice done with an actual female type voice.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link
A recent article by Mary Jo Pehl, short but funny. And Kevin Murphy's irregular pieces on NPR have been great!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 28 February 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 18 March 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link
It's been forever since I read it -- but it was certainly pretty crusty.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 18 March 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 18 March 2004 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 March 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link
I'll never hate the show. God no! But I should probably stop reading Nelson's writings outside of the show. (Murphy's book is much better.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 06:58 (twenty years ago) link
Great, now I'm a fucking knee-jerk. (OK, I've always been one, it seems.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 07:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 07:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 07:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Friday, 19 March 2004 19:36 (twenty years ago) link
it's sort of difficult to reconcile all those jokes that seemed to be taking, say, organized religion against his offhand comments about "saving people's souls."
I think you're mistaking a collective effort -- ten or more regular writers over the course of eleven years -- with one person, though. Mike was the head writer, yes, but he was not the only writer. Also, for all that there were jabs, there were also appreciations -- I'm thinking of a sketch from Joel days where he noted along the way that one shouldn't mess with a Higher Power, adding, 'Take it from one who knows.' A distinct joy of MST3K is its ecumenicism on a variety of fronts, not necessarily or solely religious.
Outside of the show, keep in mind he's still very close friends with Kevin, who, as you can tell from his own book, is Buddhist -- if Mike were a close-minded bigot, not only would the show reflect that but there would hardly be an easy and continuing friendship and professional relationship between the two (as well as with Bill and to a lesser extent with Paul and Mary Jo and others, as demonstrated by Edward the Less and all). I very much doubt Mike harangues the rest of them with sermons.
Mike's various comments on his childhood and early adulthood, while referencing various joys, also have indicated struggle, a broken home (I believe his parents are divorced), a variety of different spiritual pursuits and more. Add to that the darkness Mike D and I note above in this thread that surfaces elsewhere -- not to mention the miserable headaches he's apparently suffered from for years, which like any physical condition that is persistent and not easily solved is bound to have some impact on who and what you are -- and what I see in him through what I know of him as a public figure is somebody who has found a particular peace and grace in a way that suits him best, and who is apparently an extremely loving and caring father and husband (thinking of some of Bridget Jones's various comments and notes in interviews). I think that's admirable.
Finally, regarding his taste in movies, I don't think it was a requirement to be a total movie buff to make the show work as comedy, and again it was a collective effort. Kevin is obviously a movie freak, so too was Frank, and they knew their obscurities, as I believe does Bill. It's part of what they brought to the table.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:00 (twenty years ago) link
But Fujiwara's also right in that it's a damn shame one of MST3K's unfortunate legacies is that (for some and not all, I stress) any movie that doesn't adhere to binding mainstream standards of excellence (in the same way that Casablanca does) is practically grounds for ridicule. Of course, this is not MST3K's fault, and in fact the only plausible reason I can think of for Fujiwara to be focusing his vitriol on MST3K is that the show makes such a damned good case for eviscerating offbeat films.
Having said that, did I mention that this is my favorite show ever? Ever ever? And that someday I'd love to sit down with TV's Frank and pick his brain on movies?
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:34 (twenty years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 19 March 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
Anyway I'm never entirely sure how much the MST3K gang hated the films they watched. I was particularly surprised after seeing that Raul Julia movie that they kept going on was one of the worst Sci-Fi era movies they watched -- the visuals in that movie are completely eye-popping and wonderful, although yes the plot is weak and the acting is fairly awful (except for Julia). I found something to like in the film. And I think MST3K helped me to realize, as a young'un (I started watching the show during Season One, neener neener, Ned) that there were things to value in even the most riduclously awful films. Torgo touches our lives.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 19 March 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link