sub-scorsese were the accusations at the time of release. i remember enjoying it but not finding much to disagree with that.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah iirc it was one of the big offenders in the "grab a bunch of scorsese regulars and a serious mood and your hack-y crime movie can also be a masterpiece" mid-to-late '90s thing.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
janeane garofalo is in copland isn't she? i think i hated it, don't remember much about it other than the deniro you bleeeeeew it scene. which was good for some laughs.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
"yeah iirc it was one of the big offenders in the "grab a bunch of scorsese regulars and a serious mood and your hack-y crime movie can also be a masterpiece" mid-to-late '90s thing."
We should have a poll!
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
So there was this, Sleepers, and...
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
It was anything with someone who had been in a tarantino or scorsese film plus have some blood on the poster
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
or a gun
http://img.abrakaba.com/00128C28-0/Little-Odessa.jpg
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Featuring Tim Roth as a RUSSIAN!
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
This one's awful:http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/11/1150/43TM000Z.jpg
― saint dominic's p4k review (Eazy), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Tarantino rip-offs are a whole different breed than Scorsese rip-offs though.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
was gonna say. that's unleashing a whole new world of pain. we should stick to the Donnie Brasco's.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
well there was a certain venn diagram thing happening between the two camps
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
What about De Palma rip-offs?
― turning in the widening gyre (remy bean), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Well Tarantino was ripping off Scorsese to some extent so some intersection makes sense.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
he was also ripping of de palma! may the circle be unbroken.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
They Planned The Perfect Crime...Until It All Went Perfectly Wrong!
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Intense!
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
thats like the best worst tagline ever
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a film by Kevin Spacey.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
are people still making these kinds of movies? they seemed to stop dead around 2000.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess the massive success of, and critical acclaim for, the boondock saints kinda shamed anyone else from even trying.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
btw the documentary on the boondock saints guy, overnight, isn't on WI anymore, but i recommend it anyway. incredibly pathetic but hilarious viewing. and a pretty good, if slanted and silly and kinda sad, look at the shift miramax had made between pulp fiction and the matrix.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ah crap that was on my queue and i never got to it
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
For a horrible recent Scorsese ripoff look no further than "Kill The Irishman"...the WORST. Seriously, every 20 minutes = slow motion montage of beating people with bats set to random 70's AM radio track.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like Pixar is finally out of ideas
― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Former coworker who LOVE Boondock Saints excitedly came up to me to say that he wandered into an art cinema and saw this and thought it was the BEST film he had seen in YEARS.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i find people who love boondock saints to be v v untrustworthy wrt to movies in general
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
haha my deeply irish-identifying extended family LOVES the boondock saints w/o any sense that is in fact a terrible, campy movie. i wonder if they've seen this.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Someone should poll all of those shitty 90's ponytail thrillers like Killing Zoe and Things to do in Denver When You're Dead.
― Darin, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Cannot believe u guys are stanning for Cop Land, it is surely one of the worst movies I have ever seen
so you haven't seen armageddon yet
― ☝ (am0n), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
oh wait, i read that wrong.. one of the worst, not the worst
― ☝ (am0n), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
actually i just remembered that i saw this movie from 2009 not too long ago on cable, and it was like the terrible mid '90s crime/lowlife movie reborn, right down to the labored "clever" dialogue and wacky cast of oddballs. even though i don't really like boardwalk empire, i kinda hope buscemi never has to make another movie like this ever again.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
the vector-graphics poster and cast are very 00s. but otherwise, wow.
― 5ish finkel (goole), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Box OfficeBudget: $3,800,000 (estimated)Opening Weekend: $21,666 (USA) (31 January 2010) (2 Screens)Gross: $102,645 (USA)
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link
the appeal of boondock saints also escapes me. i'll rep for cop land, though.
― die Politik schmeckt wie Arsch (Eisbaer), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
ok boondock saints added to queue, u guys twisted my arm
also added: don't torture a duckling
― ☝ (am0n), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
the appeal of Boondock Saints is gritty bad ass dudes gettin' fuckin violent and being awesome and shit
― Gukbe, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
in slow motion with catholic guilt
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
amon if you go into boondock saints expecting mostly unintentional lols, it's very entertaining
if you go into it expecting a GRITTY CRIME EPIC after a lot of nudniks have talked it up to you over the years, it's 0_o
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
also if you watch that overnight doc on boondock auteur troy duffy, you'll understand why harvey w was rethinking his "throw money at anything with lowlifes and guns" approach by 1999.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 11 August 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I will admit I caught Copland because of this thread (and also adamrl is seldom relevant on film threads).
While I am partly drawn to the slow reveal (SPOILERS: Superboy doesn't jump, guys Superboy shot didn't have a gun but a club, circumstances on how Freddy lost his hearing saved that woman's life, etc.), it was pretty flat and predictable in the 2nd half. The whole Ray Liotta arc ended up pretty awful (the arson/insurance scam, the bomb squad connection, capt. save a deafman). Stallone was surprisingly OUT OF CHARACTER (and pretty good as the bumbling towny sheriff!) until he turned into Deaf Rambo at the end there. And zero laugh ops for Janeane was pretty wasteful.
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
It was no Yakuza Papers.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Steve Shasta is seldom relevant
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
He's no Yakuza Papers.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Also this isn't a "film" thread, it's a streaming video thread
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
haaaa
― ☝ (am0n), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh pardon me, Mr. Elderflower Gimcrax Flores.
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Ms. Elderflower if you're nasty
― Elderflower Gimcrax Flores (admrl), Thursday, 11 August 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh shit Winter's Bone! I know what I'm watching tonight.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 13 August 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
hobo w/a shotgun ruled obv
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 13 August 2011 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link