Chicago: customers are advised to allow extra travel time

Deej, don't ever work in Editorial, that's how. It's underpaid and over-credited (in the sense that yr managers will be all like "Of course you work 60 hrs a week for peanuts, we're paying you in PRESTIGE, lackey.") and your boss will be shirty if you leave before 7pm and/or don't take a satchel of manuscripts home with you.

That said, everyone in every department will have busy periods in the publishing season, depending on what stage of the process they deal with. Which I suspect is like every other business ever...?

lol luk3 the k00k xxp

I mean, karl fuckin marx wanted to free us from being chained to our work. some of us accmplish this by choosing not to live in new york city and paying 450/mo rent instead.

xp There are lots of different Editorial Departments, though. I don't doubt that it's true for a Manhattan book-publishing conglomerate, but I suspect there are substantial differences between NYC and Chicago, large press and small, mass-market and academic, etc.

chicago basically has no publishing industry

Sure, maybe Dan will weigh in about academic pub life later. I have, however, worked for both large commercial houses and small privately owned ones and found the smaller press was way more hardcore about old-fashioned publishing "sacrifice the lackeys" management and privilige/prestige bullsuit.

Neither does your mom

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after my current non-prof job i am definitely looking for something w/ fewer hours, but i also would want it to at least be in the area i'm interested in ... publishing, copyediting, something

my mom published me

Don't hate chicago playaz for having free time and walking-around money, laurel,hate the nyc game like we do.

Actually my current multi-national media conglomerate overlord is WAY more relaxed than H. H0lt was -- I was SHOCKED when I started here that people actually left on time. Granted that's more true in Production than in say, Adult Editorial, but still, there's a feeling here that everyone deserves to be reasonably happy with their jobs, rather than only the people who have important authors in their Rolodexes. It's nice.

Eazy, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, a little. Or maybe just the wrong stick. But never mind!

my mom published me

touche

xpost haha

Yeah, aren't all jobs in Manhattan like that? "Work work work, this is the big time, kid!"

chicago basically has no publishing industry

Then how have I been eating for the last seven years? There are a lot of textbook publishers here: McDougal-Littell, Scott Foresman, branches of McGraw-Hill. Two encylopedias: Britannica and World Book. Playboy and Jet.

yeah, all the stuff that people read.

I'm ready for my partay. Too bad I have to wait another 2 1/2 weeks.

I value my time ALOT, which is why I insisted on a job with regular business hours and no possibility of overtime or taking work home (even taking work home in my head!). I need to be able to not think about work at all when I'm not there, or at least not be a big ball of stress. I need to be able to spend as much time as possible with people I CHOOSE to be around, doing things that make me happy. Life is short.

Also, deej, there are job listings at Chicago Women in Publishing's website, but I think you have to pay exorbitant amounts of money to become a member and view them.

Sarah OTM.

yeah, all the stuff that people read.

It's definitely less of a mass-market industry than NYC, but it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't exist at all.

It's THURSDAY. I love Thursdays.
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Thursdays are great because it means a new Reader crossword puzzle.

thursday is the night we make love.

awww yeah.

Is that a reference to that Flight of the Conchords song?

I am at the library. Breaking your computer sucks, don't do it.

We are taking the laptop to the Apple store tonight to see how f'ed up it is. It turns on and I can see the files on our desktop still sitting there. However, the keyboard and mousepad are nonfunctional, so I have no way of seeing if all our info is still actually there. My hope is that only the keyboard and mousepad are broken, and we can just buy an external keyboard and mouse and use those for a while until we save up enough money for a new computer. My fear is that the hard drive is corrupted and I just don't know it yet.

Is that a reference to that Flight of the Conchords song?

no, it's a reference to makin' loooove

The show last night was really fun. I was at that perfect level of drunkeness where I was relaxed and having fun but not so messed up that I was sloppy or couldn't play right.

OK, I don't know whether you're kidding or not, but there's a Flight of the Conchords song that I reviewed the other day about how Wednesday is the night for making love. As cringe-inducing as you'd expect a couple of white guy doing an funk/R&B lover-man parody would be.

I'm pretty sure Kenan is kidding, as he had a FotC quote as his gmail status message for a long time.

Alright, I'm going to go look at books and then maybe go get some coffee or something.

No, I'm totally serious. Totally, totally serious. Totally.

I reviewed the other day

where?

Singles Jukebox, as always.

My HTML must've been screwy, though: that's supposed to read "waxing lyrical about the mundane aspects of sex," surrounded by em-dashes.

So you're saying that Thursday is the day of the week when you get regularly laid?

I better admit that jaymc is right and it's a joke before I confuse and horrify everyone.

But if I were to get laid tonight, I would do it with one arm behind my back. Awwww yeah.

As cringe-inducing as you'd expect a couple of white guy doing an funk/R&B lover-man parody would be.

I like funk/r&b lover-man parodies whether they're by white dudes or black dudes.

yeah, "business time" is a fan fave, but I personally think "Inner City Pressure" and the Issues song are better

"A couple of white guy" is like how Canadians say "a couple of beer."

"if that's what youre into" is good.

I like working OT, because it adds such a considerable chunk of change to my paycheck. It's easy work too. Right now I'm only doing about 15 extra a week. This will probably last the next 3 months. Then it's smooth sailing, at least until we roll out Office 2007.

only doing about 15 extra a week

I don't think I've ever done more than 10! Seriously, I'm like a zombie when I leave the office at 6 or 7, I can't imagine regularly working later than that. Then again, I don't think my boss would consent to it, either, since there's not enough in each project's budget to pay employees' overtime rates.

so jealous
i'm on salary, no overtime. yesterday i was here til 8

(i was late getting in, but 8 is not exactly an anomaly ... today i was on time @ 9 and i'll likely be here until 7)

At my first publishing job, I was told off the record that assistants were technically eligible for overtime, but you'd have to get it coded to a particular book/project, and no one would ever agree to add to a book's total cost like that, plus keeping track of your time to the minute in order to bill it was such a pain that it just never happened. Plus insisting on being paid OT would have made you look disloyal and insufficiently committed to what was BEST for the BOOKS. Fuckers.

plus keeping track of your time to the minute in order to bill it was such a pain that it just never happened

I have to do this.

Yeah, but the stuff that never seemed to be finished on time wasn't title-related, it was, for instance, two years of unfiled, uncategorized newspaper clippings from my boss's office, which he had scribbled little notes on and wanted organized. Or it was typing up rolodex cards for the other boss, b/c she didn't like using handwritten ones. That job sucked ASS, the details aren't really important.

me too

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I am drinking coffee from a mug I found in the office--it has a Cathy-like woman on it with frazzled hair, drinking coffee. The caption reads, "Men who call women 'baby' and 'darling' should have their little tiny peckers cut off."

Actually, the woman is not drinking coffee. She has a forefinger in the air authoritatively.